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[ProneToGlory]

 So FIONA is Alistair's mother. WTF! Surprise surprise I guess, anyone think we'll see Fiona in future games?

[LadyJaneGrey]

I believe the official answer is "it's a possibility." Gaider loves his ambiguity.

[mesmerizedish]

That's what many people have speculated, though it's never been confirmed.

[ProneToGlory]

my mind is blown atm, I keep looking at the book, mouth agape.

[whykikyouwhy]

What if Alistair was actually not illegitimate? What if there was a little ol' switcheroo at birth...a little prince and the pauper action? (Mad speculations, I know!)

But I would like to see somethimg about Fiona. If only for more pieces to the grand puzzle.

[TEWR]

I wonder if Fiona being free of the Calling and Avernus' discovery are linked together...

[Rifneno]

I haven't read the book, so forgive my ignorance, so wouldn't the taint have killed her by now? I get the feeling Avernus was kind of an evil genius on blood magic.

[ProneToGlory]

No, Fiona was cured of the Taint by mages, the taint Rem gave her was artificial or something

[TEWR]

The Wardens speculate that she was permanently free from the Calling.

[ProneToGlory]

^^^yeah short story lol

[bleetman]

I approve of any theory that results in Goldanna looking even more like a spiteful wretch.

[ProneToGlory]

yeah goldanna always pisses me off

[ipgd]

It's pretty obvious that she's mean to be Alistair's mother, yeah:

Page 443:

"[...]What do . . . what happens normally whena Grey Warden has a child? It must happen, surely."

"It does. We give the child up. I told them I already had a place in mind."

"There isn’t another way?"

"I wish..." Fiona shook her head firmly. "No, what I want is for him to be human. I want him to be fully human and not in line for your throne, not competing with your other son and tied to this royal blood that has brought you nothing but grief. I want him to have a fresh start." She looked at him hopefully. "You can do that, can’t you?"

"I can have him raised away from the court," Maric said, considering. "But people are bound to wonder who his mother is. Loghain will want to know. The child will almost certainly want to know... What will we tell him?"

"Tell him nothing. Let him think his mother human, and dead." She reached over to where Duncan gently cooed and rocked the baby, patting his head with a melancholy smile. "It will be easier, for him and for you."

Unless Maric has another bastard running around whom he sold the same story to...

Modifié par ipgd, 11 août 2011 - 03:47 .

[EmperorSahlertz]

Why would both Loghain and Eamon then keep the cover up? Loghain could easily have used it against Alistair that he is an elfblood, yet he kept it secret (assuming Alistair is Fiona's son). I doubt Alistair is actually Fiona's son, and that Fiona's child is still at large, and unknown.

[TEWR]

not to mention Alistair doesn't look anything like a person who has both human and elf blood in their veins.

With Feynriel, he's human but the elf-blood gave him slightly pointed ears and a narrow head.

[ProneToGlory]

Maric never tells Alistair or Eamon for that exact reason.

[Dhiro]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

not to mention Alistair doesn't look anything like a person who has both human and elf blood in their veins.

With Feynriel, he's human but the elf-blood gave him slightly pointed ears and a narrow head.

Technial limitations, maybe? Like the Qunari and their lack of horns in DA: O. Plus, it may be a artistic change. Alistair being so loved by the fandom, I don't think they would want to change his look to look more like a elf.

[Torax]

I think it's one of those things they just wouldn't touch on in regards to if she is actually his mother. If they even touched on her child it would likely be in the form of a new character that comes with it's own pre done back story pretty much.

[Herr Uhl]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

What if Alistair was actually not illegitimate? What if there was a little ol' switcheroo at birth...a little prince and the pauper action? (Mad speculations, I know!)

But I would like to see somethimg about Fiona. If only for more pieces to the grand puzzle.

Cailan is about 5 years or so older. A switcheroo would be difficult.

[LobselVith8]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

not to mention Alistair doesn't look anything like a person who has both human and elf blood in their veins.

With Feynriel, he's human but the elf-blood gave him slightly pointed ears and a narrow head.

You're forgetting that The Wardens meets an elven/human man (Slim) in Origins who looks completely human; Feynriel looks as elven as he does because of an artistic change in the series (which is why Zevran looks nothing like he did in Origins).

[TEWR]

Dhiro wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

not to mention Alistair doesn't look anything like a person who has both human and elf blood in their veins.

With Feynriel, he's human but the elf-blood gave him slightly pointed ears and a narrow head.

Technial limitations, maybe? Like the Qunari and their lack of horns in DA: O. Plus, it may be a artistic change. Alistair being so loved by the fandom, I don't think they would want to change his look to look more like a elf.

they would only have to give him slightly pointed ears to drive the point home that he has elven blood if they didn't want to change the actual face.

[TEWR]

LobselVith8 wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

not to mention Alistair doesn't look anything like a person who has both human and elf blood in their veins.

With Feynriel, he's human but the elf-blood gave him slightly pointed ears and a narrow head.

You're forgetting that The Wardens meets an elven/human man (Slim) in Origins who looks completely human; Feynriel looks as elven as he does because of an artistic change in the series (which is why Zevran looks nothing like he did in Origins).

And who's to say they didn't change Slim to be... slim? Maybe he went on a Thedosian Jenny Craig diet

And I liked Zevran's new look. A few minor tweaks and he'd look great.

[whykikyouwhy]

Herr Uhl wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...

What if Alistair was actually not illegitimate? What if there was a little ol' switcheroo at birth...a little prince and the pauper action? (Mad speculations, I know!)

But I would like to see somethimg about Fiona. If only for more pieces to the grand puzzle.

Cailan is about 5 years or so older. A switcheroo would be difficult.

I meant that Fiona's child was switched with Alistair. So the child of Maric and Fiona would still be unknown. An extra layer of subterfuge. Sorry - I didn't really phrase it well the first time. 

[TheBlackBaron]

ipgd wrote...

It's pretty obvious that she's mean to be Alistair's mother, yeah:

Page 443:

"[...]What do . . . what happens normally whena Grey Warden has a child? It must happen, surely."

"It does. We give the child up. I told them I already had a place in mind."

"There isn’t another way?"

"I wish..." Fiona shook her head firmly. "No, what I want is for him to be human. I want him to be fully human and not in line for your throne, not competing with your other son and tied to this royal blood that has brought you nothing but grief. I want him to have a fresh start." She looked at him hopefully. "You can do that, can’t you?"

"I can have him raised away from the court," Maric said, considering. "But people are bound to wonder who his mother is. Loghain will want to know. The child will almost certainly want to know... What will we tell him?"

"Tell him nothing. Let him think his mother human, and dead." She reached over to where Duncan gently cooed and rocked the baby, patting his head with a melancholy smile. "It will be easier, for him and for you."

Unless Maric has another bastard running around whom he sold the same story to...

Not that that's out of the question, of course. I get the sense that Maric probably has more bastards running around than just Alistair.

[Wulfram]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Why would both Loghain and Eamon then keep the cover up? Loghain could easily have used it against Alistair that he is an elfblood, yet he kept it secret.

Accusing him of being Fiona's child means acknowledging him as Maric's.  Not necessarily worth it.