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dragon_83 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

dragon_83 wrote...

Mad Method wrote...

Hello everyone,

Looks like RPG Codex does multiple reviews of the same games. A while ago there was a thread with Vault Dweller's review of Dragon Age 2. Now there is Konjad from RPG Codex who is doing another review for Dragon Age 2. You can find that latest review here.

Don't worry, we already sentenced Konjad to death because of that review. :bandit: As for the multiple reviews, every Codexian can send in articles, and if  they are good, they might be posted. Here is another one about Legacy.


That's anything BUT a review. That's a brat throwing a tantrum. Yeesh.

You don't say? :D But it's pretty accurate, and we had fun while reading it.


Accurate....suuuuuuure......

So all it takes to amuse RPG fans is: Swearing, hyperbole and even more swearing? :P:P

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Persephone wrote...

dragon_83 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

dragon_83 wrote...

Mad Method wrote...

Hello everyone,

Looks like RPG Codex does multiple reviews of the same games. A while ago there was a thread with Vault Dweller's review of Dragon Age 2. Now there is Konjad from RPG Codex who is doing another review for Dragon Age 2. You can find that latest review here.

Don't worry, we already sentenced Konjad to death because of that review. :bandit: As for the multiple reviews, every Codexian can send in articles, and if  they are good, they might be posted. Here is another one about Legacy.


That's anything BUT a review. That's a brat throwing a tantrum. Yeesh.

You don't say? :D But it's pretty accurate, and we had fun while reading it.


Accurate....suuuuuuure......

So all it takes to amuse RPG fans is: Swearing, hyperbole and even more swearing? :P:P

Well, I can't talk about the others, but I'm pretty easy to amuse by those things. :) Of course I know it is not a real review, but it was fun to read after those serious reviews you can find everywhere.

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dragon_83 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

dragon_83 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

dragon_83 wrote...

Mad Method wrote...

Hello everyone,

Looks like RPG Codex does multiple reviews of the same games. A while ago there was a thread with Vault Dweller's review of Dragon Age 2. Now there is Konjad from RPG Codex who is doing another review for Dragon Age 2. You can find that latest review here.

Don't worry, we already sentenced Konjad to death because of that review. :bandit: As for the multiple reviews, every Codexian can send in articles, and if  they are good, they might be posted. Here is another one about Legacy.


That's anything BUT a review. That's a brat throwing a tantrum. Yeesh.

You don't say? :D But it's pretty accurate, and we had fun while reading it.


Accurate....suuuuuuure......

So all it takes to amuse RPG fans is: Swearing, hyperbole and even more swearing? :P:P

Well, I can't talk about the others, but I'm pretty easy to amuse by those things. :) Of course I know it is not a real review, but it was fun to read after those serious reviews you can find everywhere.


RPG Codex is a scary place....:devil::lol: But I get your point. :)

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Interesting review.

This comment cracked me up though:

There is less filler combat than in the first game.

ha ha. Wait, did he just say.... hahahahahaha.

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Yrkoon wrote...

Interesting review.

This comment cracked me up though:

There is less filler combat than in the first game.

ha ha. Wait, did he just say.... hahahahahaha.


It's true.  DA2 is shorter.  Since DAO was over 90% filler combat, there is less filler combat in DA2.

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RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Interesting review.

This comment cracked me up though:

There is less filler combat than in the first game.

ha ha. Wait, did he just say.... hahahahahaha.


It's true.  DA2 is shorter.  Since DAO was over 90% filler combat, there is less filler combat in DA2.


I wouldn't say that DAO was 90% filler combat. But the DR, Andraste's Temple and the Fade are among the most hated padding dungeons ever. (Hence the popularity of the Skip the Fade Mod)

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Hilarious photoshops.

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Persephone wrote...

I wouldn't say that DAO was 90% filler combat. But the DR, Andraste's Temple and the Fade are among the most hated padding dungeons ever. (Hence the popularity of the Skip the Fade Mod)


The entire Fade could go, but because of the way it was not, not so much for the amount of combat, IMO.  The entire Deep Roads could go.  Loved the setting of both, but the combat was...  bleh.  Now, if the combat could be tied to the world, they wouldn't be so bad.

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RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Interesting review.

This comment cracked me up though:

There is less filler combat than in the first game.

ha ha. Wait, did he just say.... hahahahahaha.


It's true.  DA2 is shorter.  Since DAO was over 90% filler combat, there is less filler combat in DA2.


Now you're making S**t up.

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Both games had an inordinate amount of filler combat. It's a common thing in BioWare games, spam the player with combat which takes up most of the game.

In terms of total combat filler, I'd say that Dragon Age: Origins has more since it's a bigger game. But Origins has a better combat-to-other-stuff ratio than Dragon Age 2. When you add to that the lack of enemy variance compared to Origins, it can certainly feel like Dragon Age 2 has more combat.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 22 août 2011 - 03:47 .


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mykeme wrote...

I understood when I went into this argument that at some point the conversation would devolve into a series of strawman arguments. Once again you decide to argue ideas instead of actually naming examples, leaving your total amount of valid arguments in this conversation zero. I believe I don't have to force myself to respond to such drivel.

What evidence do you want, exactly? The parts of the game that I thought made up for the shortfalls? You'd only disagree. I'd say I thought the characters were good, you'd cry "Twilight", I'd say I liked the combat, you'd cry "CoD addict", typical RPG elitist rhetoric. My whole point has been I can't factually prove it's good, but neither can you prove it's bad, all you've argued so far is "I don't need proof, it just is".

I wanted to throw this in the the previous lack of arguments, but this is great example of corporate brainwashing. This is what EA wants you to believe, even though there's multiple evidence to suggest even indie developers can remain afloat and even make a profit by selling their games online for 25$. I'm talking about Knights of the Chalice, an RPG released in 2010, and now they're making a sequel.

Got some straw man of your own going on. There's no "even" about it, see next:

And that's an indie. What about Larian studios, what about Piranha Bytes, who make more popular games (not trying to make them popular, just in a popular genre - big difference), and many other "middle class" developers, so to speak, who make more than just a profit, AND have much more creative freedom than Bioware?

They're still too small to be comparable, still independants as far as I can tell. Bioware has hundreds of employees (~800 as of 2010 according to wikipedia, which does have a source, and I don't imagine it's gotten smaller), and even if you spread that out between all their major studios that's still more per studio than either of those companies have on their entire payroll (IGN gives Larian 17 employees, and Piranha Byte's official number is "about 22"). Add that neither of them have publishers, nor have either of them yet released a game across all three platforms, they're in different leagues.

And it's not "corporate brainwashing" (it's phrases like that which make it look like a conspiracy theory), if you look around you can find developers and professionals talking about the same thing, and I mean individuals , not companies. Example, or do some research of your own, you'll find everyone related to the industry agrees. AAA developers like Bioware are never going to operate by the same rules as small independant developers, and if that's a problem for you then you should probably stop concerning yourself with AAA games all together, save yourself the aggravation. 

Modifié par nerdage, 22 août 2011 - 04:17 .


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To me the difference is while both had filler combat, DA2 filler combat felt more like a filler. Can blame the waves, blame the limited amount of models and types, less tactical if your not one of those people who for example consider "do I have enough mana pool left to survive next wave" or even blame the fact outside of the combat felt bit like an interactive movie with a set plot that was forced. But either way doesn't change the issue that to me personally the combat in DA2 overall felt way more like filler.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 22 août 2011 - 04:25 .


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mrcrusty wrote...

Both games had an inordinate amount of filler combat. It's a common thing in BioWare games, spam the player with combat which takes up most of the game.

In terms of total combat filler, I'd say that Dragon Age: Origins has more since it's a bigger game. But Origins has a better combat-to-other-stuff ratio than Dragon Age 2. When you add to that the lack of enemy variance compared to Origins, it can certainly feel like Dragon Age 2 has more combat.


A fair assessment.

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Thanks. While I don't exactly hide the fact that I am no DA 2 fan, I do try to be fair (if tough) in my critiques.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 22 août 2011 - 04:21 .


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In other news, Konjad, the reviewer, has been banned from RPG Codex. Evidently they ban posters if they make a post or thread where they declare they are leaving RPG Codex forever.

Modifié par Mad Method, 20 septembre 2011 - 07:59 .


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Mad Method wrote...

In other news, Konjad, the reviewer, has been banned from RPG Codex. Evidently they ban posters if they make a post or thread where they declare they are leaving RPG Codex forever.


It's Crispy who wrote I'm leaving forever and I was banned for amusement of the admin and other users. I'm unbanned now though (however for a few months I had to post with an obvious alt).




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Goddammit, Codex. Without accuracy, where's
the cred? (The first screenshot is the troll mound in the Druid Forest
of BG2 - to be fair, the eds note does make mention of this.)


For some reason I just forgot to put "2" and never seen my mistake before publishing the article. Baldur's Gate was my the first cRPG and favourite one for years, I wouldn't mistake it with it's sequel (which I liked a lot less for different reasons).

mykeme wrote...

If you read the thread attached to the review, it becomes apparent that the guy who wrote it was trolling.


No, I wasn't trolling. I was trolling at the forums that DA2 is one of the best cRPGs ever, which some took seriously, but the review I wrote was honest. I enjoyed DA2 for what it was, even with all it's (often annoying) flaws, is it such a terrible thing to do?



I haven't seen this topic before, so I'm late to my own party one year, heh :pinched:

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"When you add to that the lack of enemy variance compared to Origins, it can certainly feel like Dragon Age 2 has more combat."

Kiddin' right? I hope you enjoy your DA1 darkspawn.

DA1 is not any better than DA2. they are about equal. They have strengths and weaknesses. DA1 fanboys make me want to hate the game espciially when they brag how much 'better' than DA2 it is when it actually isn't that much better if it even is which is debatable.

The one area that DA1 si undisputably better si that you can play a dwarf. :)

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Volourn wrote...

DA1 is not any better than DA2. they are about equal.


No.

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Like with the ME sequels, the most positive thing about DA2 is that it's a text book example of how not to make a sequel or an RPG.