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MagmaSaiyan

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 i know its really hard to even know what would of happened, but what do think? you think he would of survived the Joining? instead you know not getting killed by Duncan. i think he would of been an okay companion, id rather pic Daveth(think thats the name) but well, we know he dies

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Nah he dies either way, The Mortality rate during a joining is rather high.

I was personaly dissappointed in him really.
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I've always found Jory's behaviour really strange. Almost every time he opens the mouth is for showing his weak character, but there are one or two moments that seems a bit more balanced (after acquiring the treaties, for example). Anyway, I never liked him too much. I wonder if he asked Duncan to become grey Warden... if not, Duncan made a mistake choosing him xD

But asnwering your question... no, I don't think he would have survived the ritual. Very unbalanced and weak-minded to support darkspawn-whispering ^_^

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I guess I'm the only one to cut him a break. He was nervous. Even if he had survived, Flemeth could only have carried two people off the tower so he dies anyways I guess.

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I don't think he would have made it. Still, I do wonder why Duncan gave the chalice to Daveth first. Daveth seemed to be handling the stresses of Grey Warden buisiness pretty well up until that point, while Jory was very disturbed and clearly having second thoughts. While Duncan couldn't know whether Daveth or the player would survive the Joining, watching someone die right in front of you and then being forced to do what they just did seems the sort of thing that would kick someone in that situation over the edge (which it did). And since Duncan must have performed many Joinings in his time and probably knew everything that was going through Jory's mind, I think making him go second was also part of his test.

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As Asch says
Even if he survived he would have died at Ostagar anyways.

Personaly between the two I liked Daveth more and he was more accepting what it was to be a Grey Warden. Jory came off very much just thinking they were elite knights and well reguarded and respected. Similar to Alistairs "White Wardens" kind of view. Duncan and Riordan are examples of how Wardens truly are, walking the edge between morality to do what has to be done. (Think Dark Knight Batman)

If you read the Novels you get alot of insight into the Wardens from "The Calling"

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I don't think he would have made a good Grey Warden, being afraid of his own shadow as he was. Besides, he would always be thinking of his wife and child and when/if he could see them again.

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Daveth was much, much better Grey Warden material than Jory was. I mean, at least Daveth actually had the right idea from the get-go of what it means to be a Grey Warden - something Jory didn't seem to have an inkling of, even after "all those damned tests."

It's really too bad that Daveth didn't survive the Joining - I would've liked it if he made it and became a permanent party member.

Modifié par greengoron89, 29 août 2011 - 12:25 .


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Who knows? I don't think Jory was cowardly or weak, he just really uncomfortable with the occult, like darkspawn and blood-drinking rituals. He was polite, though.

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Jory struck me as very spineless and cowardly. Then again, Alistair is the same and he survived the joining XD

He may have, but surviving the Joining does not signify how good a GW Jory would be. He had potential to prove himself, if he didn't get himself killed.

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If the Joining didn't put Jory in his grave, the Battle of Ostagar certainly would. How do you think he would've handled seeing the Tower of Ishal riddled with mutilated, half-eaten corpses stuck on pikes and hung up on meat racks, as darkspawn close in around him to do the same to him? He would've probably died of a heart attack right then and there (and they would've eaten him anyway).

He was too soft to be a Warden. The Wardens bear witness to and face the greatest evil ever known, so that the rest of Thedas doesn't have to.

It is kind of ironic, though, how Jory was pretty nonchalant about meeting Morrigan and Flemeth, while Daveth and Alistair were both shaking in their boots about being turned into toads. I guess in that, he is brave.

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deleted - everything I wrote was based on a memory fart that Jory died drinking from the cup.  How could I forget that he pussed out and drew his blade on Duncan?

I'd have to watch the cutscene again, but I think Jory even attacked first, though Duncan was menacing him.

Funny . . . had Jory been of quicker wit he would've realized he had a better chance with the cup than trying to fight his way past Duncan . . . and Alistair . . . and the Warden.

Modifié par Hanz54321, 30 août 2011 - 05:23 .


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Jory showed bravery and pragmatism battling darkspawn and confronting the witch of wilds. He's a sucker for honor and tradition though, especially family-related ones. He's one of those people who would resort to extreme measures when faced with the prospect of losing face, status, or such things as family and fatherhood. Duncan may have been harsh with him, but apparently doubt is actually what kills you once you drink Darkspawn blood in the joining - he'd have ended up dead anyway.

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irony would dictate that if jory just drank the blood he would have made it.

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vortex216 wrote...

irony would dictate that if jory just drank the blood he would have made it.


... you are awesome.

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I like Jory. he is my favorite char. Because he has most realistic behavior and he wants to avoid all this tasks same as me at first time :D. I would like if there was an option to escape with Jory and Daveth from joining wardens and for example be chased by Duncan and Alistair.

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Asch Lavigne wrote...

I guess I'm the only one to cut him a break. He was nervous. Even if he had survived, Flemeth could only have carried two people off the tower so he dies anyways I guess.


Dog?

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dog followed dragon formed Flemeth.

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DeathScepter wrote...

dog followed dragon formed Flemeth.


You mean off the tower, or down the darkspawn-infested stairs?

(I assume this is the HN's dog we're talking about, who was actually in the thick of it, and found at Flemeth's hut? At first, I was afraid it had died, since the devs didn't bother to confirm it hadn't..)

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Well I do believe that Dog in the Human Noble is the same dog thru out the all origins.

I don't know how that Dog from Human Noble origin followed her but it is known that Dog regardless of origins surived the battle of ostagar and maybe followed Flemeth regardless of origins when the battle went South.

Aveline, Hawke(warrior/rogue) and maybe Carver surived that battle from what I have been told about Dragon age 2.

so possiblity.

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DeathScepter wrote...

Well I do believe that Dog in the Human Noble is the same dog thru out the all origins.

I don't know how that Dog from Human Noble origin followed her but it is known that Dog regardless of origins surived the battle of ostagar and maybe followed Flemeth regardless of origins when the battle went South.

Aveline, Hawke(warrior/rogue) and maybe Carver surived that battle from what I have been told about Dragon age 2.

so possiblity.



The Dog escaping from Howe's attack, maybe, but I don't see why it would go to Ostagar, or how it would find its way. Highever's supposed to be the very farthest North Ferelden goes. Ostagar is the very furthest South. So, if you didn't play HN, that dog probably either died, or was just never seen in-game. What I meant, though is that I thought at first that the player-controlled HN's dog had died at Ostagar, because Flemeth didn't mention rescuring it from the top of The Tower. (Seriously, the devs could have thrown in a mention or something. Would have taken maybe 10 minutes and 20 bucks.)

And yes, from what I understand, Carver was involved in the battle of Ostagar. So, I'm not the only person on this forum who's never played DA2?

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 02 juin 2012 - 09:21 .


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Jory wasn't bad, but he was working from faulty ideas. Talk to him in the Wilds/before returning to Duncan and he mentions how he planned to go back to his wife after the Blight. I got the impression he thought being a Warden was no different then signing on as a caravan guard for a season. He was totally unprepared for the realities of both the Darkspawn and being a Warden.

As for 'would he survive'? I'd think yes. The odds of dieing are high, but based off Alistair's comment afterwards as well as Awakening, it's a 1:4 to 1:5 chance of dieing.

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Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...
You mean off the tower, or down the darkspawn-infested stairs?

(I
assume this is the HN's dog we're talking about, who was actually in
the thick of it, and found at Flemeth's hut? At first, I was afraid it
had died, since the devs didn't bother to confirm it hadn't..)


DeathScepter wrote...
I don't know how that Dog from Human Noble origin followed her but it is known that Dog regardless of origins surived the battle of ostagar and maybe followed Flemeth regardless of origins when the battle went South..


Flemeth carry him with her big Dragon mouth:P

Modifié par Nizaris1, 03 juin 2012 - 07:22 .


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lol