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[Big_Bulls]

Sylvianus wrote...

They do not care, whatever could be the results.

Many people have expressed their distaste for this design. I think infortunately that this area is one of  the " let us agree to disagree or deal with it. "
So, wait and see. :happy:

While I was happy to hear Fernando Melo speaking about the Grey Wardens as a pillar of the franchise,
their counterparts actual look ridiculous. Help the Maker, that BW will start
from the scratch with new concept art for DA:3. If they should stick with
theses Darkspawn I will vote for the return of tactical view. To quote Hawke : …
It’s too much.   

Modifié par Big_Bulls, 21 août 2011 - 08:00 .

[Anyroad2]

I dont mind the new Darkspawn at all.

Sure, they may not look as monstrous as the DAO ones, but I feel like these resemble their origin races better. I only wish that their skin were blackened. It doesn't really go to well with the visual queues of the taint.

[dsl08002]

It was quite fun to hear that the warden still exits in the DA world because than there might be one more game that will feature him/her as a main character. It probably wont happen in DA3 but perhaps there is stil hope for all origin and The warden fans to play as the hero of ferelden one more time.

[Morroian]

dsl08002 wrote...

It was quite fun to hear that the warden still exits in the DA world because than there might be one more game that will feature him/her as a main character.

Thats not what they said.

[King Cousland]

Morroian wrote...

dsl08002 wrote...

It was quite fun to hear that the warden still exits in the DA world because than there might be one more game that will feature him/her as a main character.

Thats not what they said.

Perhaps you should tell him what they did say then?

They said that the Warden and Hawke are both characters which still exist, and it is very likely that we will hear of them, and possibly see them (however, possibly does not mean "definately will"). Either way, we won't be playing as either one again, as the aim is to introduce a new PC with every game. 

[Mike3207]

harkness72 wrote...

Morroian wrote...

dsl08002 wrote...

It was quite fun to hear that the warden still exits in the DA world because than there might be one more game that will feature him/her as a main character.

Thats not what they said.

Perhaps you should tell him what they did say then?

They said that the Warden and Hawke are both characters which still exist, and it is very likely that we will hear of them, and possibly see them (however, possibly does not mean "definately will"). Either way, we won't be playing as either one again, as the aim is to introduce a new PC with every game. 

We won't be playing with them as a protagonist character-thats true enough. I imagine it's still possible to play with them in a more limited role-if they can resolve the technical issues with the Warden.

[Ihatebadgames]

Any news about the Seeker?I think she's the best new NPC next to Verric.

[dsl08002]

Mike Smith wrote...

harkness72 wrote...

Morroian wrote...

dsl08002 wrote...

It was quite fun to hear that the warden still exits in the DA world because than there might be one more game that will feature him/her as a main character.

Thats not what they said.

Perhaps you should tell him what they did say then?

They said that the Warden and Hawke are both characters which still exist, and it is very likely that we will hear of them, and possibly see them (however, possibly does not mean "definately will"). Either way, we won't be playing as either one again, as the aim is to introduce a new PC with every game. 

We won't be playing with them as a protagonist character-thats true enough. I imagine it's still possible to play with them in a more limited role-if they can resolve the technical issues with the Warden.

they cant resolve the story of the warden by simply move him or her in as a cameo, it is impossible without to make whole community of DA players angry and dissapointed . What bioware is doing is that they completley ignore the wishes of the fans that wants the warden to return, and they are many. and hawke of course 

So bioware want a game to be succesful, but it doesn´t matter because all the expectations that have been build up by the fans in DAO and DA2 that you want to follow the warden or hawke to the end is only getting more delayed. 

And I absolutley  belive that bioware will stil loose more fans to the DA series when you introduce a new character again     

Modifié par dsl08002, 22 août 2011 - 07:55 .

[Dubya75]

dsl08002 wrote...

Mike Smith wrote...

harkness72 wrote...

Morroian wrote...

dsl08002 wrote...

It was quite fun to hear that the warden still exits in the DA world because than there might be one more game that will feature him/her as a main character.

Thats not what they said.

Perhaps you should tell him what they did say then?

They said that the Warden and Hawke are both characters which still exist, and it is very likely that we will hear of them, and possibly see them (however, possibly does not mean "definately will"). Either way, we won't be playing as either one again, as the aim is to introduce a new PC with every game. 

We won't be playing with them as a protagonist character-thats true enough. I imagine it's still possible to play with them in a more limited role-if they can resolve the technical issues with the Warden.

they cant resolve the story of the warden by simply move him or her in as a cameo, it is impossible without to make whole community of DA players angry and dissapointed . What bioware is doing is that they completley ignore the wishes of the fans that wants the warden to return, and they are many. and hawke of course 

So bioware want a game to be succesful, but it doesn´t matter because all the expectations that have been build up by the fans in DAO and DA2 that you want to follow the warden or hawke to the end is only getting more delayed. 

And I absolutley  belive that bioware will stil loose more fans to the DA series when you introduce a new character again     

No, I think you will find that you are part of a very small group of fans that is so obsessed with the Warden.
Why do you so desperately need to know what's happened to him? 
Keeping it a mystery will more likely turn him into a legend than recording every dump he takes.

I kind of wish BioWare would just add a line in the next DLC for someone to say the Warden slipped on his own sh*t, knocked his head and is now dead! That'll fix it. 

Modifié par Dubya75, 22 août 2011 - 09:52 .

[WazzuMan]

The problem is that for one of the possible endings for Origins, the Warden is killed. It's a bit hypocritical of fans of both the Warden and RPGs to wave away what must have been the most dramatic ending of the game (I wouldn't know having never completed the game once). So I can imagine that not every save file that players have there is even a Warden out there to meet again.

I admit that when I play Dragon Age 2, not having an Origins save of my own to use yet, I choose the Martyr backstory so I can have Hawke's sibling return to the party again. So if I used any of those saves in the future I would not get a chance to meet the Warden again. Therefore the Warden cannot return as a protagonist otherwise there will be many save files that could not be continued.

When it comes to the Warden's return to the series in whatever capacity I am willing to bet that the dev team have taken that one fact into consideration. I am certainly curious to see what they have in mind.

[Tpiom]

The players who killed their Warden should play the Warden-commander from Orlais that they played in Awakening. I do not believe it's possible to kill him/her...

[dsl08002]

Dubya75 wrote...

dsl08002 wrote...

Mike Smith wrote...

harkness72 wrote...

Morroian wrote...

dsl08002 wrote...

It was quite fun to hear that the warden still exits in the DA world because than there might be one more game that will feature him/her as a main character.

Thats not what they said.

Perhaps you should tell him what they did say then?

They said that the Warden and Hawke are both characters which still exist, and it is very likely that we will hear of them, and possibly see them (however, possibly does not mean "definately will"). Either way, we won't be playing as either one again, as the aim is to introduce a new PC with every game. 

We won't be playing with them as a protagonist character-thats true enough. I imagine it's still possible to play with them in a more limited role-if they can resolve the technical issues with the Warden.

they cant resolve the story of the warden by simply move him or her in as a cameo, it is impossible without to make whole community of DA players angry and dissapointed . What bioware is doing is that they completley ignore the wishes of the fans that wants the warden to return, and they are many. and hawke of course 

So bioware want a game to be succesful, but it doesn´t matter because all the expectations that have been build up by the fans in DAO and DA2 that you want to follow the warden or hawke to the end is only getting more delayed. 

And I absolutley  belive that bioware will stil loose more fans to the DA series when you introduce a new character again     

No, I think you will find that you are part of a very small group of fans that is so obsessed with the Warden.
Why do you so desperately need to know what's happened to him? 
Keeping it a mystery will more likely turn him into a legend than recording every dump he takes.

I kind of wish BioWare would just add a line in the next DLC for someone to say the Warden slipped on his own sh*t, knocked his head and is now dead! That'll fix it. 

ok I´ll drop it.  

By the way "obsessed" it´s a strong word  

Modifié par dsl08002, 22 août 2011 - 12:19 .

[dirk5027]

they cant resolve the story of the warden by simply move him or her in as a cameo, it is impossible without to make whole community of DA players angry and dissapointed . What bioware is doing is that they completley ignore the wishes of the fans that wants the warden to return, and they are many. and hawke of course

So bioware want a game to be succesful, but it doesn´t matter because all the expectations that have been build up by the fans in DAO and DA2 that you want to follow the warden or hawke to the end is only getting more delayed.

And I absolutley belive that bioware will stil loose more fans to the DA series when you introduce a new character again

Yes they will this statement is absolutely correct...with no continuation the series will slowly die out
OH a new person fighting dark spawn, blood mages and shades..many many people will go to buy the game and think same old, no i don't think so
Whereas if the characters are continued, for most it would be an immediate buy to see what has happened and is happening with their favorites

[esper]

I disagree. My wardens story ended with awakening. I have no wish to bring her back, and also I can see no reason why she should bother to involve herself in Kirkwall or the mage-templar war, or with Orlai if da3 really is going to be there. She doesn't even care about Fereldan. She is too busy with doing her own thing in the 20 years she has back.
I love my Hawke, but I have no reason to play her in da3. She has an established view on the mage-templar thing, an established Li and pretty much a path in life. As much as I love her she comes with far too much baggage to handle another matter. I do hope that bioware end her story in an dcl, but continue her in Da3, no.
Also the warden and Hawke fought by no means the same enemies. There were far less blood mages in da:o for example and a lot more darkspawn.
Thedas is far too rich with too many different countries and problems to be about one character. It is not mass effect with the reaper as the enemy focus in all thre games.
Bioware has been perfectly honest about changing protagonist with each new major installement in the series.

[dirk5027]

You guys maybe i worded that wrong i didn't mean Hawke or the warden in particular, it's all the characters, there has to be some sort of continuity, you simply can't make characters that people get attached to, then dump them and make a sequel, doesn't work to well either with a 30 second cameo
There has to be story follow throughs
Of course i also disagree with the statement "dragon age is about Thedas" a poorly worded statement at best, the minute the player picks up the controller and moves a character, it is now about said character and the person/people they interact with
Don't mind me i'm one of those that stares at the screen thinking they should have done this should have done that, whatever direction they go i'll most likely be there

[esper]

But there are character that carries over, just not the main character, because the main character is about their own adventure and the blight and the start of the mage/templar war is not the same thing.
Perhaps it would be more appropiate to say that dragon age is about the dragon age in Thedas where a bunch of different people brought (violent) change to the world.

[TheSeeker33]

So from what I understand is we're getting an item pack on Tuesday, and also details on the next DLC at PAX this week?

[GuiltySource]

It makes no sense for the Warden to return. The Wardens do not get involved with politics. Their only concern is the blight. The mage templar war is of no concern to the Warden. The only reason the Warden stuck his/her nose in Ferelden's business, was because **** fell apart during a blight.

[MrProliferation]

I liked my Warden(s), but frankly I'm tired of them, just like I am growing tired of my Hawkes. I need a new PC. I'm even getting tired of my Sheps in ME, though I'm glad they're moving on in both cases. I want a new ME character (who can be non-human! wouldn't that be great!) and a new protagonist in the next DA.

For one, I really like that you can do something mentioned earlier in the thread, like having opposable protagonists. I played a magic-hating Dwarf who annulled the circle in DAO and then followed that up with a Hawke who was a straight-up Maleficar blood mage. Similar I had an evil wizard in DAO who did just about every ethically questionable thing you could do, followed up by a goody-two-shoes warrior Hawke trying to stitch the world back together. I think how you can change the threads of the story is interesting. Whether it will mean anything relative to future installments of DA, only time will tell.

But seriously, where are the details on the next item pack?

[Mike3207]

It's really all about the unresolved storylines-I think a lot of people would have been OK with the DAO epilogue, but then they had to add in the terrible epilogue at the end of Awakenings about the Warden's disappearance. Once that was done, you should have expected the DA2 ending. I think the people who say the Warden's story is done miss the point-it would have been done, if BW hadn't made the Warden disappear/be gone.I really think making 2 previous protagonists disappear was a mistake by Bioware.

The person who said the Warden's don't get involved in politics-ever play Warden's Keep? The Wardens were kicked out of Ferelden for involving themselves in politics. There also wouldn't be a royal line in Ferelden without the Wardens-all the claimants except Anora are Wardens.

[King Cousland]

Mike Smith wrote...

It's really all about the unresolved storylines-I think a lot of people would have been OK with the DAO epilogue, but then they had to add in the terrible epilogue at the end of Awakenings about the Warden's disappearance. Once that was done, you should have expected the DA2 ending. I think the people who say the Warden's story is done miss the point-it would have been done, if BW hadn't made the Warden disappear/be gone.I really think making 2 previous protagonists disappear was a mistake by Bioware.

The person who said the Warden's don't get involved in politics-ever play Warden's Keep? The Wardens were kicked out of Ferelden for involving themselves in politics. There also wouldn't be a royal line in Ferelden without the Wardens-all the claimants except Anora are Wardens.

Not to mention that the First Warden and the rest of the garrison at Weisshaupt practically rule the Andefels because of a weak king. Riordan even says that he got the impression they like it that way. 

[dsl08002]

Everyone has an opinion of the warden or hawke´s return if there story is to continue or not, and both sides are making good points.

and once again I know that Dragon age isn´t mass effect, BUT all the choices that you made in DAO and in DA2 will have an impact in DA3 and it will shape the world of Dragon age, and it´s not only that, your social actions with your party members is also significant for example when you meet a cameo character from origins in DA2 for example Leliana in the "exiled prince"( I romanced her) It didn´t feel right because it was not the warden she was meeting, it was hawke, They were strangers, same thing goes for meeting Zevran and Nathaniel Howe, it´s not the right chemistry that happens between friends or lovers.
questions like "how you been", "what have you been up to"? they don´t happen when you bring a new character in, then the questions will be like this:
Who are you?....... oh right! you´re him/her

Do you understand what I´m talking about?

[dsl08002]

harkness72 wrote...

Mike Smith wrote...

It's really all about the unresolved storylines-I think a lot of people would have been OK with the DAO epilogue, but then they had to add in the terrible epilogue at the end of Awakenings about the Warden's disappearance. Once that was done, you should have expected the DA2 ending. I think the people who say the Warden's story is done miss the point-it would have been done, if BW hadn't made the Warden disappear/be gone.I really think making 2 previous protagonists disappear was a mistake by Bioware.

The person who said the Warden's don't get involved in politics-ever play Warden's Keep? The Wardens were kicked out of Ferelden for involving themselves in politics. There also wouldn't be a royal line in Ferelden without the Wardens-all the claimants except Anora are Wardens.

Not to mention that the First Warden and the rest of the garrison at Weisshaupt practically rule the Andefels because of a weak king. Riordan even says that he got the impression they like it that way. 

Indeed

when in DA2 you hear that the warden also disappears you get a small piece of hope that the wardens story is not over yet, the once that are saying that the wardens dont interfere in other politics is you must remember this is YOUR Warden you´re talking about. The warden that helped the dwarfes at Orzammar, that hepled the elves in brecilian forrest, healed Arl Eamon, that killed the Archdemon and cleansed the Circle tower in ferelden. that´s why  the chantry is searching for the warden as well. 
 
It´s a character that other people listen to, follows and fights beside.

My warden wouldn´t stand by and watch if Ferelden was under attack or if another place was. 

And listen to this: I wondered in the ending of DA2 why leliana was there as well. I romanced her so i wonder if she´s trying to find my character who she loves  and that My warden character and hawke might be the only ones to stop the crysis with the mages and the templars

   

Modifié par dsl08002, 22 août 2011 - 04:52 .