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[Kasai666]

Saphra Deden wrote...

It's a good thing you aren't Shepard then because your version of Shepard is a fool.

And you are biased. 

[Someone With Mass]

Skullheart wrote...

But it wasn just a get who entered throught the door, it was Shepard accompained with a geth, a non-agressive geth.

And tali shooting inside the ship can be considerated like insubordination, even it coul scalate to mutiny.  If i were shepard, Tali will have to say hellow to the airlock in the moment she shooted.

As if absolutely no-one alse can do the same mistake.

As for the shooting, grow up. It's a tiny hole. If a good chunk of the hull is ripped off, the mass effect core overloads and explodes, and the system is infected with a Reaper virus, I think you can fix a puny hole in the AI core.

You pissed her off. Simple as that. What, you're going to charge Grunt with insubordination and throw him out the airlock as well when he breaks the glass? Or Mordin when he doesn't agree with you? Or Legion when he cheats on the extranet games? Maybe you should tell Garrus to not play that music on his visor in battle. Or, hell, are you going to throw Jack off too because she hurled a chair at Miranda?

By the way, if there's no established chain of command among the aliens, and they're simply there because they like to help you, you can't call ****.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 13 août 2011 - 01:05 .

[JonnyOwen]

Definitely the Geth. They have better reasoning for exiling the Quarian's, and they have a massive fleet that will be really useful against the Reaper's; and if Tali doesn't like it she can scamper back to the Flotilla - Oh, wait...

[azerSheppard]

Kasai666 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

It's a good thing you aren't Shepard then because your version of Shepard is a fool.

And you are biased. 

Agreed, Saphra has yet to make a valid argument on this topic.
SWM pulling strawman nice going.


Tho this isn't a "i legion or tali" thread, i like both characters.

[DialupToaster]

Can't we just agree it is morally grey and strategically geth?

[azerSheppard]

randomchasegurney wrote...

Can't we just agree it is morally grey and strategically geth?

How about we each have our own opinion?

I have 2 characters that romanced Tali, so i should be biased towards the Qurians, yet i can't seem to support the idea that the ones that originaly incited the problem, and apparenty will try again in ME3, get to play the victim card.

"I punched him and now my hand hurt" boohoo.


The Geth have been cleaning toxic waists from the war, maybe the Quarians ought to send out a formal apology, instead of thinking about war and slavery?

Do the fruit basket first, if that don't work go ahead and "fight".

[lokiarchetype]

randomchasegurney wrote...

Can't we just agree it is morally grey and strategically geth?

Because it isn't morally grey at all?

One side is the clear aggressor in a situation where violence isn't necessary for resolution.

[KotorEffect3]

This is one I am going to be stuck on until I actualy play the game itself and see how the story unfolds up until that point and even then I might be at the point where I have to put the controller down and stare at the screen for a few minutes before I decide.

[azerSheppard]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

This is one I am going to be stuck on until I actualy play the game itself and see how the story unfolds up until that point and even then I might be at the point where I have to put the controller down and stare at the screen for a few minutes before I decide.

I'll have that with the genophage:o

[KotorEffect3]

azerSheppard wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

This is one I am going to be stuck on until I actualy play the game itself and see how the story unfolds up until that point and even then I might be at the point where I have to put the controller down and stare at the screen for a few minutes before I decide.

I'll have that with the genophage:o

Yep and that is what makes the first playthrough a little bit more special than all the other subsequent playthroughs.

[lokiarchetype]

Let's just look at the facts.

1. This conflict between the Geth and Quarians began with the Morning War. The Morning War was instigated by the Quarians against the Geth and resulted in the Quarians having to leave their homeworld.

2. The Geth simply wish to exist in peace, hold no hostility towards their creators for the Morning War, and have no desire to enter into further conflict with the Quarians.

3. There's no competition over land or resources with regard to the homeworld since the Geth live in space and mine asteroids for the materials they need.

4. The Geth are maintaining the homeworld so that the Quarians can return there once they're willing to leave the Geth in peace.

Conclusion: As so far as the story has been developed, there is no justification for the Quarians to initiate a war against the Geth.
The Geth are good.
If the Quarians attack the Geth then they are evil.
Pretty clear cut.

Modifié par lokiarchetype, 13 août 2011 - 01:23 .

[Reds19]

well i think that your going to have the chance to possiblly side with both the geth and the quarians if you play your cards right but if war can not be avoided i would side with the quarians for the simple reason of their massive fleet

[Kasai666]

azerSheppard wrote...

Kasai666 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

It's a good thing you aren't Shepard then because your version of Shepard is a fool.

And you are biased. 

Agreed, Saphra has yet to make a valid argument on this topic.
SWM pulling strawman nice going.


Tho this isn't a "i legion or tali" thread, i like both characters.

Thankfully someone agrees with me. The quarians have the ships that we need, but the geth have the numbers and tech. Its not an easy choice. And this is coming from somebody who hates 98% of all quarians. 

[azerSheppard]

Kasai666 wrote...

azerSheppard wrote...

Kasai666 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

It's a good thing you aren't Shepard then because your version of Shepard is a fool.

And you are biased. 

Agreed, Saphra has yet to make a valid argument on this topic.
SWM pulling strawman nice going.


Tho this isn't a "i legion or tali" thread, i like both characters.

Thankfully someone agrees with me. The quarians have the ships that we need, but the geth have the numbers and tech. Its not an easy choice. And this is coming from somebody who hates 98% of all quarians. 

I think the Geth might have more combat apt ships than any other race, not to mention their technology is far superior to ours. Maybe if the Quarians incorportated the Thanix cannons on all 50000 ships it would mean something, however, if the ships use a decade old weapons tech, i don't think thats going to have an effect on a Reaper.

[KotorEffect3]

azerSheppard wrote...

Kasai666 wrote...

azerSheppard wrote...

Kasai666 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

It's a good thing you aren't Shepard then because your version of Shepard is a fool.

And you are biased. 

Agreed, Saphra has yet to make a valid argument on this topic.
SWM pulling strawman nice going.


Tho this isn't a "i legion or tali" thread, i like both characters.

Thankfully someone agrees with me. The quarians have the ships that we need, but the geth have the numbers and tech. Its not an easy choice. And this is coming from somebody who hates 98% of all quarians. 

I think the Geth might have more combat apt ships than any other race, not to mention their technology is far superior to ours. Maybe if the Quarians incorportated the Thanix cannons on all 50000 ships it would mean something, however, if the ships use a decade old weapons tech, i don't think thats going to have an effect on a Reaper.

Here is the thing with Migrant fleet it doesn't just have to be used for combat operations.  Let's say the Quarians get settled back on their homeworld then their fleet could be used to evacuate other worlds or to transport massive amounts of troops and deploy large armies that could be used for planetside ground combat. 

[GoG ToXiC]

I'm not sure who I'd side with right now, but if there's no peace option, I'll be pissed. I've been pushing for peace between those two every time the game gives me a chance.

[DialupToaster]

I say kill them all and become a reaper. d:

[azerSheppard]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Here is the thing with Migrant fleet it doesn't just have to be used for combat operations.  Let's say the Quarians get settled back on their homeworld then their fleet could be used to evacuate other worlds or to transport massive amounts of troops and deploy large armies that could be used for planetside ground combat. 

Planetside combat is only usefull for helping survivers against indoctrinated people, and sleeper agants.


If you want to take down the reapers, your gonna have to hit it with it's own weapon, now sovereigns weapon cut ships like butter, but so does the thanix. Unless the geth bring in a plasma cannon of some kind, i'm expecting thanix cannons up the ass.

I have a feeling one of the ending will be us jumping with several fleets to atack the enemy. Remember that feeling you had when the alliance showed up from arcturus? that times a thousand xd

[KotorEffect3]

azerSheppard wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Here is the thing with Migrant fleet it doesn't just have to be used for combat operations.  Let's say the Quarians get settled back on their homeworld then their fleet could be used to evacuate other worlds or to transport massive amounts of troops and deploy large armies that could be used for planetside ground combat. 

Planetside combat is only usefull for helping survivers against indoctrinated people, and sleeper agants.


If you want to take down the reapers, your gonna have to hit it with it's own weapon, now sovereigns weapon cut ships like butter, but so does the thanix. Unless the geth bring in a plasma cannon of some kind, i'm expecting thanix cannons up the ass.

I have a feeling one of the ending will be us jumping with several fleets to atack the enemy. Remember that feeling you had when the alliance showed up from arcturus? that times a thousand xd

There may be a planet with some sort of key technology, resource, or secret that the reapers don't want us getting our hands on and that planet may be crawling with husks and indoctrinated slaves.  That is the point where I might need my massive Krogan land army to kick ass on the ground to capture said resource (or whatever). 

[Rockworm503]

Saphra Deden wrote...

It's a good thing you aren't Shepard then because your version of Shepard is a fool.

It's a good thing this is a video game because now I can bash your playstyle because its not like my own.

[InvincibleHero]

Skullheart wrote...

Quarians were the agressors in the Morning War, and since then they haven't considerated the dialogue or diplomacy. So if I have to sacrifice any of them, it would be the quarians.

I can't save everyone. Remember Tsun Tzu words, "He who protects everything protects nothing.”

Really?!? So all quarians went to war. How about the leadership of the quarian military at the time thought to stamp out rogue AI that achieved sentience and presented a clear and present damger to the galaxy not only quarians. The geth proved it by wiping out most of the quarians and anyone that ventures into the territory. With the "heretics possible retcon" storyline only the heretics came out and killed from every species they came across. The true geth supposedly want peace but haven't done anything in 300 years towards that goal. Odd that.

Hopefully taking Legion at his word the quarians can return to their homeworld free from hostility and both can be allies. If I had to choose between status quo I would take that over exterminating quarians or the geth. Fighting the reapers makes it senseless to start down that road.

If forced to choose probably renegade geth and paragon quarians.

[Slayer299]

legion999 wrote...

Slayer299 wrote...

legion999 wrote...
It's the way they act now that would make me side with the Geth. One admiral wants peace but the others either remained neutral, wanted to go to war or wanted to enslave the geth. Plus many of them believe it's the Geth's fault where as it's neither sides fault (the Geth fought for the right to exsist while the Quarians who tried to commit genocide died.

Yes, its just terrible that they have different views on how to deal with the Geth instead of just falling on their knees apologizing.

Plus, the Geth committed Genocide against the Quarins in the MW, how do you commit genocide against a piece of software?

So now we're calling Genocide fighting back?

It wasn't Genocide when the Geth were robots, malfunctioning ones at that point.

[LilyasAvalon]

Why must you do this to me? T_T

[Slayer299]

Aradace wrote...

If it comes down to it, and I have to choose between the Quarians and the Geth. Im sorry Talimancers, but Im siding with the Geth. Not because I hate Tali or anything (because I dont) but because the Geth are essentially a sentient species. AI species yes, but a "thinking" sentient species none the less. Regardless of what the Quarians created them for, they were essentially enslaving them. And slavery....well....anyone that knows me here knows what I think of Slavers lol

I keep seeing this type of comment and I can only shake my head sadly. How can you accuse the Quarians of enslaving VI's that were programmed to handle dangerous jobs for them? Are you saying that your toaster or your PC is being enslaved by you?