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[Someone With Mass]

Rogue Unit wrote...
Apparently not since Legion tells Quib the Geth are open to peace, yet he doesn't find that important enough to mention to the other admirals. If he did, that means they simply didn't listen.


"Go to war with the Geth!"
"Go to war with the Geth!"
"Enslave the Geth!"
"Find a peaceful solution."
"I'm not sure."

Peace doesn't seem likely.

If the admiralty board is not agreeing with each other, then a war won't happen.

And really, is it that hard to just try and convince them that peace is the right solution?

Just like Shepard have done throughout the whole trilogy? Convincing people?

And if you don't care, then simply just don't bother with it if your time is so precious and go do something else, because I'm so sick of seeing comments like "Duuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, I'mma think dem *insert faction here* dun goofed, and I can't possibly help them do the right thing, so I'mma let dem die" all the time.

[ddv.rsa]

The Quarians, without a doubt. I don't trust synthetics. Ideally I'd actually want to exterimante the geth -with them gone the galaxy will be a much safer place (go ask the colonists of Eden Prime).

For the war the Quarians will no doubt be less useful than the geth, but at least they can provide a wealth of technically skilled personnel. After the war, the Quarians would also be less of a threat to humanity than the geth.

Additional insights: I also killed the Rachni Queen, destroyed the Genophage cure data, abandoned the Council and saved the collector base. My canon Shepard's main priority is stopping the Reapers, but he tries to do it in a way that strengthens humanity while weakening potential enemies. He sees himself as having a duty to humanity, not the galaxy.

Modifié par ddv.rsa, 13 août 2011 - 01:48 .

[Jonathan Shepard]

Geth.

[elarem]

Geth definitely.

[Rogue Unit]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Rogue Unit wrote...
Apparently not since Legion tells Quib the Geth are open to peace, yet he doesn't find that important enough to mention to the other admirals. If he did, that means they simply didn't listen.


"Go to war with the Geth!"
"Go to war with the Geth!"
"Enslave the Geth!"
"Find a peaceful solution."
"I'm not sure."

Peace doesn't seem likely.

If the admiralty board is not agreeing with each other, then a war won't happen.

And really, is it that hard to just try and convince them that peace is the right solution?

Just like Shepard have done throughout the whole trilogy? Convincing people?

And if you don't care, then simply just don't bother with it if your time is so precious and go do something else, because I'm so sick of seeing comments like "Duuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, I'mma think dem *insert faction here* dun goofed, and I can't possibly help them do the right thing, so I'mma let dem die" all the time.

I can't remember exactly how the admiratly board works (and I can't be bothered to look it up.) but it looks like they 3/5 in favor of war.

And Shepard can tell the Quarians not to go to war, yet here we are in ME3 with a Quarian/Geth conflict on our hands.

And please, don't put words in my mouth. My post was nothing like the crude example you gave above. I never said let them die. I simply said peace doesn't look likely. <_<

See the difference?

Modifié par Rogue Unit, 13 août 2011 - 02:05 .

[xXljoshlXx]

ddv.rsa wrote...

The Quarians, without a doubt. I don't trust synthetics. Ideally I'd actually want to exterimante the geth -with them gone the galaxy will be a much safer place (go ask the colonists of Eden Prime).

The galaxy would be a safer place without any of the races including humans. Joining the reapers with Saphra makes sense.

ddv.rsa wrote...
For the war the Quarians will no doubt be less useful than the geth, but at least they can provide a wealth of technically skilled personnel. After the war, the Quarians would also be less of a threat to humanity than the geth.

And the geth can't ?

ddv.rsa wrote...
Additional insights: I also killed the Rachni Queen, destroyed the Genophage cure data, abandoned the Council and saved the collector base. My canon Shepard's main priority is stopping the Reapers, but he tries to do it in a way that strengthens humanity while weakening potential enemies. He sees himself as having a duty to humanity, not the galaxy.

Killing them both or enslaving sounds better, eliminate the threat completely

Modifié par xXljoshlXx, 13 août 2011 - 02:06 .

[Someone With Mass]

Rogue Unit wrote...
I can't remember exactly how the admiratly board works (and I can't be bothered to look it up.) but it looks like they 3/5 in favor of war.

And Shepard can tell the Quarians not to go to war, yet here we are in ME3 with a Quarian/Geth conflict on our hands.

And please, don't put words in my mouth. My post was nothing like the crude example you gave above. I never said let them die. I simply said peace doesn't look likely. <_<

See the difference?

Nah, that was towards everyone else.

It's really simple to avoid that war if you know how.

[Someone With Mass]

xXljoshlXx wrote...
And the geth can't ?

Considering that you have to have about eleven of their normal platforms around just to give them the same intelligence as Legion, I'd say that quarians are better when it comes to technical problems.

[xXljoshlXx]

Someone With Mass wrote...

xXljoshlXx wrote...
And the geth can't ?

Considering that you have to have about eleven of their normal platforms around just to give them the same intelligence as Legion, I'd say that quarians are better when it comes to technical problems.

Do you have geth numbers to show that the qaurians are better suited

[Someone With Mass]

xXljoshlXx wrote...
Do you have geth numbers to show that the qaurians are better suited

One normal geth platform contains about 100 geth programs. Legion's platform holds 1183 geth programs, and it's able to form a mobile network, which no other geth can do on their own. Do the math.

[xXljoshlXx]

Someone With Mass wrote...

xXljoshlXx wrote...
Do you have geth numbers to show that the qaurians are better suited

One normal geth platform contains about 100 geth programs. Legion's platform holds 1183 geth programs, and it's able to form a mobile network, which no other geth can do on their own. Do the math.

Geth total numbers?
Edit:Forgot about that part 

Modifié par xXljoshlXx, 13 août 2011 - 02:46 .

[BatmanPWNS]

Quarians because I love shooting Geths (or Heretics in general) >

[Ianamus]

Quarians.

The Geth killed all of the peaceful diplomats the council sent, which shows that they have no sense of right or wrong, no morality. That makes them childlike. And dangerous.

[ForgottenWarrior]

Geth. Geth. Geth. Quarians get what they deserved.

[S.A.K]

Peace is most likely possible. I think it is unlikely for us to be able to side with the Geth. Legion is the only geth designed to communicate with organics. Anyway if I have to take a side I take Quarians any day.
Edit : Sorry Legion I really like you!

[xXljoshlXx]

EJ107 wrote...

Quarians. 1.The Geth killed all of the peaceful diplomats the council sent, which shows that they have no sense of 2.right or wrong, no morality. That makes them childlike. 3.And dangerous.

1.The quarians attacked any chance Victory was certain

2.Right and Wrong are based on opinions 

3.The Quarians have the largest fleet out of all the races 

[legion999]

S.A.K wrote...

Peace is most likely possible. I think it is unlikely for us to be able to side with the Geth. Legion is the only geth designed to communicate with organics. Anyway if I have to take a side I take Quarians any day.
Edit : Sorry Legion I really like you!

[ThanesSniper]

CMDR Locke wrote...

ThanesSniper wrote...

ZoSo159 wrote...

Why does everyone say the Quarians committed genocide? The geth are robots they are not alive. Legion even tells Shepard not to compare geth to organics because the geth are machines.

Life is defined as the property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism.
www.thefreedictionary.com/life

Geth have internal reactions, grow, reproduce, and respond to outside stimuli. Maybe not in the classical sense, but they still satisfy the qualifications of being "alive".

So all computer viruses are alive then?  Good to know next time you run malware call the cops and turn yourself in please.

Microsoft word, has internal reactions, it can grow, and reproduce, and damn sure responds to outside stimuli.  Next time you delete a document call the cops and report a murder. 

If you format your hard drive you've committed genocide, call the UN and let them know you're guilty of war crimes.

Clouds have internal reaction, they grow, reproduce, and respond to outside stimuli, they're SENTIENT OMG RAWR!!

Lol, I'm actually shocked at how wrong this post is. First off, I'm arguing for the Geth being alive. Ants are also alive, but if I go and kill an ant, I'm not going to turn myself in for murder. That would be determined by sentience, which I do believe the Geth possess, but that's a whole separate issue.

Computer viruses do not respond to outside stimuli, and do not contain internal reactions.
Microsoft word does not respond to outside stimuli, it cannot reproduce, and it does not have internal reactions.
A hard drive does not respond to outside stimuli, does not reproduce, and does not grow.
Clouds do not respond to outside stimuli, and they don't reproduce.

Like I said, the Geth do not possess the classical sense of life (breathing and eating). The fact that you believe there can only be one form of living, that only humans and other organics can be defined as alive, is incredibly close minded. I know I won't convince you that Geth are alive, sentient, and deserve our acknowledgement as such, but hopefully I'm giving others the opportunity to think about the Geth in different perspectives than just "Geth are machines, destroy them all!"

Modifié par ThanesSniper, 13 août 2011 - 03:05 .

[Ianamus]

xXljoshlXx wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

Quarians. 1.The Geth killed all of the peaceful diplomats the council sent, which shows that they have no sense of 2.right or wrong, no morality. That makes them childlike. 3.And dangerous.

1.The quarians attacked any chance Victory was certain

what does that have to do with the Geth killing the council's diplomat's?

2.Right and Wrong are based on opinions 

Killing peaceful diplomats is amoral. I don't want to befriend a species that does things like that. 

3.The Quarians have the largest fleet out of all the races 

But they have a sense of morality. They don't kill emissaries just to be isolationist.

[Someone With Mass]

The quarians sent supplies to a turian world that had a major accident that killed thousands. I don't think the geth would have or could have done something like that.

[Ryzaki]

Ah nevermind. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 13 août 2011 - 03:33 .

[Clonedzero]

xXljoshlXx wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

Quarians. 1.The Geth killed all of the peaceful diplomats the council sent, which shows that they have no sense of 2.right or wrong, no morality. That makes them childlike. 3.And dangerous.

1.The quarians attacked any chance Victory was certain

2.Right and Wrong are based on opinions 

3.The Quarians have the largest fleet out of all the races 

i'm still wondering how useful the quarian fleet wil actually be. most of their ships arent military and probably either completely lack weapons or are very lightly armed.

plus they make a big point of talking about how crappy most of the ships are, being 300 years old in a lot of cases and barely maintained?

doesnt sound all that useful to me. maybe as a distraction.

[goofyomnivore]

If the war happened while the Reapers are reaping, I would pick the Geth since they are stronger and more able to help fight against the major threat. If it is after the Reapers have been defeated, I would side with Quarians.

[Goneaviking]

Modifié par Goneaviking, 13 août 2011 - 04:21 .