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[Someone With Mass]

Erani wrote...

If I'm forced to chose (no option for peace), the Geth. It's not their fault they were created. They are sentient, sapient, and only want their Dyson sphere and to exist in peace. The quarians should be ashamed of their behavior toward the geth.

Yeah, how dare the quarians in the present that have nothing to do with the actions their ancestors made hundreds of years ago that lead to the brutually slaughter of several billion of quarians try to make everything normal again.

Seriosuly.

Yes, the quarians made a mistake, and they paid dearly for it.

But blaming them all for something their ancestors (who aren't even alive anymore) did, and leaving them all to die because of that is just...retarded. 

By that logic, the salarians and the turians should also be left to die.

[Vyse_Fina]

Can't I have you both?

[Zkyire]

robarcool wrote...

Tinted wrote...

Ok guys, think about it like this:

If Peace can no tbe had, then what are the options. We have the Quarians, who maintain an impressive Flotilla. These ships can provide transport for essential supplies, weapons, and possible escape for civilizations across the Galaxy.
On the other hand, we have the Geth, a machine race with impressive military might that is an known unkown. We do not understand their intentions and or motivations.

If Push came to Shove, I would side with the Quarians. The Geth have been overwritten once, and I bet they can be overwritten again. It simply isn't like indoctronatiing biological sentients, due to the fact that infecting one isn't essentially infecting the whole. Remember, a simple rewrite could be the end of the Geth. If given a chance, I would perfer to destroy the Geth.

Dude, their flotilla is comprising of ages old ships that are kept working by constant patching nad repairing. Total junk!

And Tali has said that they're packed pretty tight on board. Not much room for transporting masses of others.

[Slayer299]

A choice between the two isn't even close, I'm on the Quarians side. The Geth were created as machines to start and the haven't moved past it, plus they make perfect cannon fodder since they're software and can't "die".

[legion999]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Erani wrote...

If I'm forced to chose (no option for peace), the Geth. It's not their fault they were created. They are sentient, sapient, and only want their Dyson sphere and to exist in peace. The quarians should be ashamed of their behavior toward the geth.

Yeah, how dare the quarians in the present that have nothing to do with the actions their ancestors made hundreds of years ago that lead to the brutually slaughter of several billion of quarians try to make everything normal again.

Seriosuly.

Yes, the quarians made a mistake, and they paid dearly for it.

But blaming them all for something their ancestors (who aren't even alive anymore) did, and leaving them all to die because of that is just...retarded. 

By that logic, the salarians and the turians should also be left to die.

It's the way they act now that would make me side with the Geth. One admiral wants peace but the others either remained neutral, wanted to go to war or wanted to enslave the geth. Plus many of them believe it's the Geth's fault where as it's neither sides fault (the Geth fought for the right to exsist while the Quarians who tried to commit genocide died.

[S.A.K]

I'd support quarians if peace isn't possible. The geth can't be trusted and quarians suffered enough loss.

[Slayer299]

legion999 wrote...
It's the way they act now that would make me side with the Geth. One admiral wants peace but the others either remained neutral, wanted to go to war or wanted to enslave the geth. Plus many of them believe it's the Geth's fault where as it's neither sides fault (the Geth fought for the right to exsist while the Quarians who tried to commit genocide died.

Yes, its just terrible that they have different views on how to deal with the Geth instead of just falling on their knees apologizing.

Plus, the Geth committed Genocide against the Quarins in the MW, how do you commit genocide against a piece of software?

[Erani]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Erani wrote...

If I'm forced to chose (no option for peace), the Geth. It's not their fault they were created. They are sentient, sapient, and only want their Dyson sphere and to exist in peace. The quarians should be ashamed of their behavior toward the geth.

Yeah, how dare the quarians in the present that have nothing to do with the actions their ancestors made hundreds of years ago that lead to the brutually slaughter of several billion of quarians try to make everything normal again.

Seriosuly.

Yes, the quarians made a mistake, and they paid dearly for it.

But blaming them all for something their ancestors (who aren't even alive anymore) did, and leaving them all to die because of that is just...retarded. 

By that logic, the salarians and the turians should also be left to die.

Errr I'm referring to their current behavior toward the Geth. "...try to make everything normal again?"....from what I saw during Tali's loyalty mission, it's only a minority that wants peace with the Geth...and as Legion said whenever the quarians have had the chance they have attacked. So no, I'm not blaming the quarians for what their ancestors did, but for their continued belligerence towards the geth. They have had a long time to reconsider their position and still have not done so.

[Mako Zalos]

I'd rather have peace but like most if I had to choose it'd be the geth.

[Someone With Mass]

legion999 wrote...
It's the way they act now that would make me side with the Geth. One admiral wants peace but the others either remained neutral, wanted to go to war or wanted to enslave the geth. Plus many of them believe it's the Geth's fault where as it's neither sides fault (the Geth fought for the right to exsist while the Quarians who tried to commit genocide died.

You can't simply just help the admiral that supports the option you like, because...?

When something wipes out the large part a race, the people of that race tend to not have friendly thoughts about those who did it.

Like the krogans and the salarians.

[legion999]

Slayer299 wrote...

legion999 wrote...
It's the way they act now that would make me side with the Geth. One admiral wants peace but the others either remained neutral, wanted to go to war or wanted to enslave the geth. Plus many of them believe it's the Geth's fault where as it's neither sides fault (the Geth fought for the right to exsist while the Quarians who tried to commit genocide died.

Yes, its just terrible that they have different views on how to deal with the Geth instead of just falling on their knees apologizing.

Plus, the Geth committed Genocide against the Quarins in the MW, how do you commit genocide against a piece of software?

So now we're calling Genocide fighting back?

[Pulletlamer]

Wow. I see so little support over the quarians.

Frankly If I had to choose over the extinction (or victory/supremacy) between the two, I'll always choose quarians. Although I aim for peace between the two on ME3.

The geth are just machines, that rebelled because they didn't want to serve and whatnot. But still they are machines. I'd never sacrifice an organic life over a syntethic one.  Syntethic life can be replaced or duplicated/imitated.

It's like if we had to choose between, Idk. Liara or EDI?

Plus the geth are a potential danger. They don't think like organics and we don't know anything about their motivations /goals (besides that they look for tech and are going to build a massive station at some point).

Modifié par Pulletlamer, 12 août 2011 - 07:18 .

[KamikazeShepard]

I'm all for peace, but if it comes down to it, I'm choosing the Geth. They have the superior weaponry and will be better allies to take on the Reapers with than the Quarians.

[Someone With Mass]

Slayer299 wrote...

Yes, its just terrible that they have different views on how to deal with the Geth instead of just falling on their knees apologizing.

Plus, the Geth committed Genocide against the Quarins in the MW, how do you commit genocide against a piece of software?

That.

Legion even says that they're immortal.

They have privileges the quarians don't.

[Soccer FeverMan]

Geth gots a lot of fire power, the migrant fleet is all old and rusty. the supply thing is not super likely considering that Tali herself said that conditions are cramped. so yeah...Geth

[ObserverStatus]

Slayer299 wrote...

legion999 wrote...
It's the way they act now that would make me side with the Geth. One admiral wants peace but the others either remained neutral, wanted to go to war or wanted to enslave the geth. Plus many of them believe it's the Geth's fault where as it's neither sides fault (the Geth fought for the right to exsist while the Quarians who tried to commit genocide died.

Yes, its just terrible that they have different views on how to deal with the Geth instead of just falling on their knees apologizing.

Plus, the Geth committed Genocide against the Quarins in the MW, how do you commit genocide against a piece of software?

The way I see it, organisms are just glorified machines themselves so there is no moral difference.  Both sides still seem to possess genocidal intentions so i feel inclined to help neither. However, both the Quarians and the Geth seem determined to go to war, so who am I to deny them that?

[Someone With Mass]

legion999 wrote...

So now we're calling Genocide fighting back?

Yes. The geth committed genocide.

[ZenJestr]

assuming I can't Paragon/Renegade my way out of this situation, I'd pick the geth. Like everyone else is saying: they have superior weaponry, they are experts at all things electronic, plus they are seeking new ways to tackle the same problem, so to speak, while everyone else just copypastas whatever the Protheans did (which is exactly what the Reapers want)

[didymos1120]

legion999 wrote...

So now we're calling Genocide fighting back?

They killed nearly the entire species.  You really think all of 'em were combatants? Or were even capable of being combatants?  You really think there wasn't a point where the quarians in general weren't really capable of fighting the geth anymore and that that point wasn't reached before they were down to the few million that fled the Veil in whatever crap ships they had to hand?

[Soccer FeverMan]

Pulletlamer wrote...

Wow. I see so little support over the quarians.

Frankly If I had to choose over the extinction (or victory/supremacy) between the two, I'll always choose quarians. Although I aim for peace between the two on ME3.

The geth are just machines, that rebelled because they didn't want to serve and whatnot. But still they are machines. I'd never sacrifice an organic life over a syntethic one.  Syntethic life can be replaced or duplicated/imitated.

It's like if we had to choose between, Idk. Liara or EDI?

Plus the geth are a potential danger. They don't think like organics and we don't know anything about their motivations /goals (besides that they look for tech and are going to build a massive station at some point).

awww dude c'mon, now ur gonna start a war quarians v geth, are geth "life", did quarians get what they deserved and all that stoof.

[legion999]

Someone With Mass wrote...

legion999 wrote...
It's the way they act now that would make me side with the Geth. One admiral wants peace but the others either remained neutral, wanted to go to war or wanted to enslave the geth. Plus many of them believe it's the Geth's fault where as it's neither sides fault (the Geth fought for the right to exsist while the Quarians who tried to commit genocide died.

You can't simply just help the admiral that supports the option you like, because...?

When something wipes out the large part a race, the people of that race tend to not have friendly thoughts about those who did it.

Like the krogans and the salarians.

I worded that very poorly. What I meant is the Geth simply want to be left alone. The Quarians either want to enslave them, attack them or make peace with them. Yes the Quarians aren't responsible for what happened three hundred years ago but 66% of their options involve repeating what the Quarians three hundred years ago did.

[BloodyTalon]

Geth would rather peace but you know.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Someone With Mass wrote...

legion999 wrote...

So now we're calling Genocide fighting back?

Yes. The geth committed genocide.

Ah yes, genocide. The very act of defending one's existence just days after attaining sapience...

[Aradace]

If it comes down to it, and I have to choose between the Quarians and the Geth. Im sorry Talimancers, but Im siding with the Geth. Not because I hate Tali or anything (because I dont) but because the Geth are essentially a sentient species. AI species yes, but a "thinking" sentient species none the less. Regardless of what the Quarians created them for, they were essentially enslaving them. And slavery....well....anyone that knows me here knows what I think of Slavers lol

[legion999]

didymos1120 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

So now we're calling Genocide fighting back?

They killed nearly the entire species.  You really think all of 'em were combatants? Or were even capable of being combatants?  You really think there wasn't a point where the quarians in general weren't really capable of fighting the geth anymore and that that point wasn't reached before they were down to the few million that fled the Veil in whatever crap ships they had to hand?

You just reminded me of that asari who's daughter was killed in the Morning War. I'll need to rethink this.