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[Clonedzero]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...
can you make an arugment without sounding like a child please?

Only when I see something from you that's worth my time and that's not filled with kiddie BS and biased opinions just because you find the quarians to be boring.

How nice of you to completely overlook the majority of my comment too, just so you can focus on the childish stuff I wrote, by the way. It has taught me something about you. 

I find the geth to be quite interesting too, but the way people portray them to be more innocent than children and victimized them at the same time in this thread is just silly and unrealistic.

sup tali sig banner.

[Someone With Mass]

Well, for them to be innocent, they'd have to be harmless as well. I really doubt they were, since the geth were also used in the quarian military.

A child is mostly innocent and harmless.

A military machine carrying an assault rifle or any form of weapon isn't.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 14 août 2011 - 04:07 .

[Rockworm503]

CMDR Locke wrote...

I still 100% believe anyone taking the Geth side only does so because "lol Legion was cool." No sane human would ever choice a computer program/robot over a living breathing person.

Thank you so much for deciding the reason why.
I have given my reasons time and time again.
I guess by your same argument your siding with the Quarians simply because Tali is CUTE!

[Someone With Mass]

Clonedzero wrote...
sup tali sig banner.

Case in point.

Nice work.

[Abispa]

Kitteh303 wrote...

So is it more important to judge the geth/quarian situation based on what was, or what is now? By that I mean, does what happened in the past trump the status of the present or vice-versa?

I think that Shepard should make a decision based on the cold, hard reality at the time s/he is making them. If siding with the Geth is the best way to stop the Reapers, then, in the best interests of saving dozens of sapient species across the known galaxy, s/he will side the the Geth. However, if the Geth interests are opposed to the organic races' survival or the Reapers should be in the process of reprograming the Geth again, s/he should help the Quarians.

[Someone With Mass]

xXljoshlXx wrote...
That is pretty dumb you don't a like them because of their fanbase...?

That's not the first time it has happened here.

[Clonedzero]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Well, for them to be innocent, they'd have to be harmless as well. I really doubt they were, since the geth were also used in the quarian military.

A child is mostly innocent and harmless.

A military machine carrying an assault rifle or any form of weapon isn't.

since when do you need to be harmless to be innocent? that makes no sense.

im innocent of murder, but i could absolutely do it. im completely capable of it.

like i said, in the intial war. neither side was innocent. the quarians tried to kill all the geth. the geth, just receiving their self-awareness in turn reacted in te simplest most basic way, of killing the quarians back.

since then things have changed. the quarians are locked in political stalemate. and the geth just wanna do their own thing and be left alone.

also, its hilarious you try and call people out on their bias while completely ignoring your own. at least i admit i find the geth more interesting so im more likely to side with them.

[Warlocomotf]

didymos1120 wrote...

Warlocomotf wrote...

They gained sentience years before anyone tried to murder them. When Legion plays the audio recording of the Geth asking a Quarian if he had a soul, Shepard asked Legion if this was when the Gath became sentient. Legion responds "No", it was when the Quarians first freaked out that the Geth were sentient.

And Legion didn't say when the first time was so I don't know where you got this "years before" notion from.

It felt implied, however- even without that evidence (mind you, the burdon of evidence should be on you, seeing as you attempt to use it as an argument); you say the Geth were still children. Children do not ask the question "Do I have a soul".

[Clonedzero]

Someone With Mass wrote...

xXljoshlXx wrote...
That is pretty dumb you don't a like them because of their fanbase...?

That's not the first time it has happened here.

i know, have you seen how creepy tali fan art is?

[Pedro Costa]

I side with the Geth. They aren't your friendly neighbourhood AI, I'll give you that, but at least they aren't a species who's willing to commit genocide the very second their slave labour makes a question about their existence, and then proceeds to play the "poor me" card because they got their butts handed to them by the very race they tried to slaughter.

[Rogue Unit]

Someone With Mass wrote...

xXljoshlXx wrote...
That is pretty dumb you don't a like them because of their fanbase...?

That's not the first time it has happened here.

Doesn't make it any less stupid.

[Rockworm503]

This thread has stopped being cool.
What I'm seeing a couple of people giving valid reasons for picking the Geth and everyone else jumping down their throats for it.
"you just like LEGION LOLOLOL"
"their machines how can any person chose machines over living beings?"
Or my personal favorite "you want to justify what the Geth did."
What are the quarians gonna do when they decide to attack the Geth? Get sick on them?
Look at the bigger picture here The Reapers are coming. Its terrible what happened to the Quarians but their either going to step in line with the other races or face extinction.
Same with the Geth I'm not siding with them because Legion is cool or because the "Quarians had it coming" (stupid reason no matter how you slice it)
I'm siding with them because I don't think the Quarians are willing to put aside their differences long enough to face the Reapers. Why should they? Their just machines right? You anti Geth (at least the ones who are against them because their simply machines) are making my argument for me.

[Someone With Mass]

Clonedzero wrote...
i know, have you seen how creepy tali fan art is?

Just as creepy as the losers that keeps bringing it up in a completly pathetic attempt to ****** the fans off.  

[S.A.K]

xXljoshlXx wrote...

S.A.K wrote...

Yeah. I used to like the geth untill I came to this thread. I would have played one or two playthroughs taking the geths side(if its possible). Now they are completely f*cked.

That is pretty dumb you don't a like them because of a portion of its fanbase...?

Not really. Its because the only thing quarians did wrong was making geth.:innocent:

[xXljoshlXx]

Rockworm503 wrote...
Same with the Geth I'm not siding with them because Legion is cool or because the "Quarians had it coming" (stupid reason no matter how you slice it)

Im areeing with you but that is debatable 

[CMDR Locke]

Rockworm503 wrote...

This thread has stopped being cool.
What I'm seeing a couple of people giving valid reasons for picking the Geth and everyone else jumping down their throats for it.
"you just like LEGION LOLOLOL"
"their machines how can any person chose machines over living beings?"
Or my personal favorite "you want to justify what the Geth did."
What are the quarians gonna do when they decide to attack the Geth? Get sick on them?
Look at the bigger picture here The Reapers are coming. Its terrible what happened to the Quarians but their either going to step in line with the other races or face extinction.
Same with the Geth I'm not siding with them because Legion is cool or because the "Quarians had it coming" (stupid reason no matter how you slice it)
I'm siding with them because I don't think the Quarians are willing to put aside their differences long enough to face the Reapers. Why should they? Their just machines right? You anti Geth (at least the ones who are against them because their simply machines) are making my argument for me.

You're ignoring all the valid reasons not to choose Geth?  That you're basing your opinions off conversation with "one" mobile platform.  You're taking that Geth as 100 true, accurate and gospel.

Paragon Shepard won't let one sentient machine race, destroy the Quarians just to stop another sentient machine race.  It's funny how you're on the Geth side but totally cool with destroying the Reapers.

[Clonedzero]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...
i know, have you seen how creepy tali fan art is?

Just as creepy as the losers that keeps bringing it up in a completly pathetic attempt to ****** the fans off.  

aww touch a nerve?

[xXljoshlXx]

S.A.K wrote.... Its because the only thing quarians did wrong was making geth.:innocent:

The only thing the Geth did was exist...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...
i know, have you seen how creepy tali fan art is? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/sick.png[/smilie]

Just as creepy as the losers that keeps bringing it up in a completly pathetic attempt to ****** the fans off. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie] 

I can't agree with you there being a troll is no where close  to some of these fan arts on any char

Modifié par xXljoshlXx, 14 août 2011 - 04:27 .

[Rockworm503]

CMDR Locke wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

This thread has stopped being cool.
What I'm seeing a couple of people giving valid reasons for picking the Geth and everyone else jumping down their throats for it.
"you just like LEGION LOLOLOL"
"their machines how can any person chose machines over living beings?"
Or my personal favorite "you want to justify what the Geth did."
What are the quarians gonna do when they decide to attack the Geth? Get sick on them?
Look at the bigger picture here The Reapers are coming. Its terrible what happened to the Quarians but their either going to step in line with the other races or face extinction.
Same with the Geth I'm not siding with them because Legion is cool or because the "Quarians had it coming" (stupid reason no matter how you slice it)
I'm siding with them because I don't think the Quarians are willing to put aside their differences long enough to face the Reapers. Why should they? Their just machines right? You anti Geth (at least the ones who are against them because their simply machines) are making my argument for me.

You're ignoring all the valid reasons not to choose Geth?  That you're basing your opinions off conversation with "one" mobile platform.  You're taking that Geth as 100 true, accurate and gospel.

Paragon Shepard won't let one sentient machine race, destroy the Quarians just to stop another sentient machine race.  It's funny how you're on the Geth side but totally cool with destroying the Reapers.

If I'm wrong than I'll happily side with the Quarians instead.
And what about destroying the Reapers?  Are you seriously going to sit there and suggest that the Geth are just as bad because of their past mistakes?
I thought the whole poing of the games was to destroy the Reapers.  Is it because their machines like the Geth?  I don't get what your saying

[Someone With Mass]

Clonedzero wrote...
aww touch a nerve?

I'm sorry, do you have a point of being in this thread, besides to torture me with your crappy grammar, spelling and completely childish troll attempts that makes me question if you're actually old enough to play Mass Effect or if you're just that stupid?

[Ryzaki]

CMDR Locke wrote...

You're ignoring all the valid reasons not to choose Geth?  That you're basing your opinions off conversation with "one" mobile platform.  You're taking that Geth as 100 true, accurate and gospel.

Paragon Shepard won't let one sentient machine race, destroy the Quarians just to stop another sentient machine race.  It's funny how you're on the Geth side but totally cool with destroying the Reapers.

Oh there's reasons to pick either side. 

My only issue is those trying to say the other side is "wrong". Then you're just being stupid. There's perfectly valid reasons to pick either side or both or to tell them both to screw off. Trying to cry "OMG but they're robots!!111! The quarians are lilly white and innocent and have done nothing wrong to the geth ever!" is equaly as facepalm worth to me as the "OMG! The Geth are lilly white and innocent! They're poor widdle innocent robots that were persecuted by the evil Quarians and had no choice in their actions!!!" 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 août 2011 - 04:30 .

[ISpeakTheTruth]

jreezy wrote...

You must not have played Mass Effect 1 or 2. Geth the least violent species? Hardly. Accomplished everything on their own? Not really.

Let's review some facts. The Geth won a war where the other side wanted to comit total genocide on them. then 300 years latter a small splinter faction of the Geth fought a war. So in the span of 300 years the Geth have been involved in two hostile periods of there existance. Can you name me a single momen in human history where we havn't been trying to kill eachother? No you can't, because humanity can't go one day without someone trying to kill another for some pointless reason.

The same goes for the Turians, Salarian, Asari, Krogan, Batarians and everyone else. Every specie is guilty of hostilities every single day and have been for centuries. The Geth have comitted two hostile actions in their entire history as a specie so yes they are the least violent specie in the game and if you don't think so than you're blind to the sins of every other specie in the game.

They won their independance on there own no one helped them. Then for 300 years they've done nothing but spend time finding new ways to better themselves and make themselves stronger. They have done so using their own technolody indipendant of the Reapers. When speaking to Legion he makes it very clear that using technology that isn't your own blinds you to other paths that you could take and sets on a path that might not be best for you. They rejected being given their ultimate goal because they wanted to achieve it themselves.

This is a people that we could learn alot from. A people that at their core truly don't want to harm people and want to focus on improving their lives. If humanity would spend half of its time trying to improve the lives of its people instead of trying to come up with new ways to kill eachother we'd be better for it.

[Shifty Assassin]

I would side with the geth if i was forced to choose

[Clonedzero]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I'm sorry, do you have a point of being in this thread, besides to torture me with your crappy grammar, spelling and completely childish troll attempts that makes me question if you're actually old enough to play Mass Effect or if you're just that stupid?

i have yet to see a post of yours that isnt insulting, childish, or posting a ridiculous straw man argument. so you tell me, why should i act like you're actually contributing to the thread at all?

also you seem painfully unaware of your own bias in this argument. yet you seem to constantly call people out on being "legion fanboys" when you're sporting a tali banner? it seems a tad bit hypocritical dont you think?

honestly, you're calling ME stupid after all this? it seems laughable.

[CMDR Locke]

Rockworm503 wrote...

CMDR Locke wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

This thread has stopped being cool.
What I'm seeing a couple of people giving valid reasons for picking the Geth and everyone else jumping down their throats for it.
"you just like LEGION LOLOLOL"
"their machines how can any person chose machines over living beings?"
Or my personal favorite "you want to justify what the Geth did."
What are the quarians gonna do when they decide to attack the Geth? Get sick on them?
Look at the bigger picture here The Reapers are coming. Its terrible what happened to the Quarians but their either going to step in line with the other races or face extinction.
Same with the Geth I'm not siding with them because Legion is cool or because the "Quarians had it coming" (stupid reason no matter how you slice it)
I'm siding with them because I don't think the Quarians are willing to put aside their differences long enough to face the Reapers. Why should they? Their just machines right? You anti Geth (at least the ones who are against them because their simply machines) are making my argument for me.

You're ignoring all the valid reasons not to choose Geth?  That you're basing your opinions off conversation with "one" mobile platform.  You're taking that Geth as 100 true, accurate and gospel.

Paragon Shepard won't let one sentient machine race, destroy the Quarians just to stop another sentient machine race.  It's funny how you're on the Geth side but totally cool with destroying the Reapers.

If I'm wrong than I'll happily side with the Quarians instead.
And what about destroying the Reapers?  Are you seriously going to sit there and suggest that the Geth are just as bad because of their past mistakes?
I thought the whole poing of the games was to destroy the Reapers.  Is it because their machines like the Geth?  I don't get what your saying

Don't bring the point of the game into the arguement.

Reapers machine sentience that has tried to kill Shepard/Citadel.  In the past has destroyed all life in the Galaxy.
Geth machine sentience that has tried to kill Shepard/Citadel.  In the past destroyed all life in a  solar system.

How do you know the Reapers don't attack organics because when they achieved sentience millenia ago their organic creators tried to terminate them.

By your own arguements  the Reapers are well within there rights to kill any organic species that threatens to become powerful enough to terminate them.  I mean Yeah the current organics didn't actually have anything to do with that, but niether did the current Quarians have anything to do with what happened to the Geth.