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#751
Rockworm503

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Clonedzero wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

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you linked the excapist and expected a serious reply. you did it to yourself lol


Okay, if you're not going to bother, neither will I.

Bye, twerp.

what? you linked the excapist dude. the excapist ...


What?  you linked a website I personally don't like.  Your entire viewpoing is invalid now.
Give me a break Someone with Mass rubs me the wrong time sometimes too but this is just retarded.

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medcsu wrote...

Not gonna lie, the dork fest about Tali is quite humorous. Some chick with hoofs and a mask attracts as much attention to these tools as hentai. I'm sure they are the same "men" that like tentacle love too.

Bottom line is Tali is a solid squadmate, albeit annoying and needy. However, the Geth, in the end, will make a far, FAR superior tactical ally than the worthless Quarians.

The Quarians have infighting, a ragtag/gypsy fleet, are most likely horrible shock troops. Where as the Geth have a singular purpose, have a very strong fleet, have zero emotion to cloud them during battle and will have a considerably less chance to backstab Shepard as they are machines (assuming this here).

Now before you Quarian lover geeks get your g-strings in a bunch, I am not saying the Quarians are utterly worthless. But in the scheme of a decision (both choices will ultimately equate to a victory anyhow - assumed), it is far more prudent (if this was real) to pick the option that gives you the best chance to beat your enemy and that is easily the Geth.


Not to mention the Geth don't need to eat, they can survive on planets that would kill other species, they have superior tech, they can replenish their numbers faster than any organic race could, and the list goes on.

Modifié par Rogue Unit, 14 août 2011 - 05:27 .


#753
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CMDR Locke wrote...
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What do you mean my onw logic?

My arguement has been that a single "entity" the Geth who are only sentient gestalted together is not worth more than 17 million individual Quarian.

My arguement is that the Geth have proven to be on the side of the Reapers.  For over 2 years until you come across a gestalted mobile platform that tells you they are not.  That tells you there are 2 seperate groups of Geth, and then has you re-write them (destroy them) making their group of Geth stronger.



Don't know if I agree with your assessment of the Geth as being a "single" entity.  Yes, they have a"gestalt" consciousness, but it doesn't combine into a single mind.  Each and every geth retains it's own consciousness, and has a unique point of view.  To me, destroying a single "mobile platform" would be the equivalent of probably taking down a human cruiser.  The geth do  not have a culture that value the indivdual, instead they plan for their future as a "whole", but this does not mean that there are no "individuals" within their whole society.

The way I see it, we do not look at the Migrant Fleet as a single entity, although they contain the Quarian Society as a whole.  The loss of one of the ships would be the loss of many of the individuals contained within that ship.

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Rockworm503 wrote...


What?  you linked a website I personally don't like.  Your entire viewpoing is invalid now.
Give me a break Someone with Mass rubs me the wrong time sometimes too but this is just retarded.

its not that i dont like it. its that its horrible. might sound weird, but i tried to like it. but damn. i mean DAMN.

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Rogue Unit wrote...


INdeed When it cmoes to a 

medcsu wrote...

Not gonna lie, the dork fest about Tali is quite humorous. Some chick with hoofs and a mask attracts as much attention to these tools as hentai. I'm sure they are the same "men" that like tentacle love too.

Bottom line is Tali is a solid squadmate, albeit annoying and needy. However, the Geth, in the end, will make a far, FAR superior tactical ally than the worthless Quarians.

The Quarians have infighting, a ragtag/gypsy fleet, are most likely horrible shock troops. Where as the Geth have a singular purpose, have a very strong fleet, have zero emotion to cloud them during battle and will have a considerably less chance to backstab Shepard as they are machines (assuming this here).

Now before you Quarian lover geeks get your g-strings in a bunch, I am not saying the Quarians are utterly worthless. But in the scheme of a decision (both choices will ultimately equate to a victory anyhow - assumed), it is far more prudent (if this was real) to pick the option that gives you the best chance to beat your enemy and that is easily the Geth.


Not to mention the Geth don't need to eat, they can survive on planets that would kill other species, they have superior tech, they can replenish their numbers faster than any organic race could, and the list goes on.



Agreed. The Geth are extremely useful allies as long as they and Shep's goals are aligned. 

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medcsu wrote...

 Some chick with hoofs and a mask attracts as much attention to these tools as hentai.


Hooves?  No, no.  It's "chicken feet".

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//////Spoiler Legion is part of the reapers geth and made you rewrite the true geth (who are really just hostile to everyone) to make the reaper geth stronger! :o HE. WILL. BETRAY. YOU!.

^^ As far as I know, not really but would be a neat plot twist. Neat as in ****** off every paragon/legion lover.

Modifié par randomchasegurney, 14 août 2011 - 05:58 .


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Golden Owl wrote...

In some ways this^....I don't dislike the Quarians, but the simple fact is they did go in for a slaughter fest without provocation once they realized their creation had become self aware....the Geth simply started by trying to defend themselves from attack, yes the Geth took it too far, just as the Quarians had planned to do....wipe out a whole species.....The Quarians remain unwilling to consider alternatives, the Geth display a willingness.


Not all of this applies to you GoldenOwl.Image IPB

Do we truly know the Quarians attacked en masse? We get a snippet that the one that asked do I have a soul was attempted to be shut down, but logically can we conclude the quarians whom a great quote from Tali "We love to debate" started it all. The quarians seem to take a great deal of time to do anything much less mobilize and stamp out a ubiquitous army of emergent AI in every facet of their society. The geth were construction vehicles and many other forms. They comunicate light speed so every geth was mobilized and that is why it was a slaughter. The evidence is from a geth so it automatically makes it true right?

If your car became aware while you were driving and refused to do what you wanted then what would you do? Take it to a repair shop which would likely replace the CPU or wipe it etc.  That would be threatening it with destruction so now it is justified to lock you in and poison you to death with carbon monoxide right? No. Geth were a clear and present danger no matter how people want to look at it. Would you let it go free after you paid $25 K for it because you know it is a free lifeform?

It needs to be said the quarians made vast investments in creating the geth. They thought it was machines to make their lives easier more prosperous like humans do even today with robots building cars. Their whole society would have collapsed without the geth doing what they wree designed to do.

If a completely sapient bacteria was made that would exterminate every human on present Earth that it came in contact with, would any of you bemoan destroying it? No way.

If the geth were truly innocent and peaceful as they claim then they could have simply left. The quarians could not have possibly shut them all down. After all just one server holds millions of programs that can replicate replacing all hardware lost. Why would the geth fear the quarians which is an emotion BTW one they don't have? If they truly ran probabilities they would have realized the quarians posed no real threat to them.

So lets examine how they came up with termination. So if they did not want to be shut off so to speak how does that get to we must kill them all? In fact, how did they learn to kill? it stands to reason if you think it is bad for you to die then you know it is bad to kill another. So therefore negates any claims of innocence on the geth part. Self defense eh? Like the rogue AI in ME1 that tried to kill Shepard by exploding. All our Shepards are murdering monsters killing a sentient being then. No I don't see it that way at all. To let it go would have been idiotic. The geth were orders more dangerous than that credit siphoning program would ever be. They were a grave danger and proved it quite conclusively over 300 years.

Legion is one geth platform that might not be representative of the rest. One admiral was for peace with the geth too so that equals does it not? Is Legion the leader of the geth able to make treaties? Not as far as BW made clear. Even so will geth keep to their treaties if they make them? I have no idea and neither does anyone. Asari would fear military reprisal while the geth if they have the advantage will do what they want not caring if a billion platforms die while it is a deterrent for any organic race with leaders that have accountability. Wars also cost lots of money and wreak economic havok which again doesn't apply to the geth that can easily extract materials at no cost to them.

Modifié par InvincibleHero, 14 août 2011 - 06:12 .


#759
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That's quite enough childish bickering. LOCKDOWN