Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
marshalleck wrote...
That's pedantic bull****. The elcor have their homeworld and several colonies, and had no interest in Ekuna; the quarians had nothing.
Seboist wrote...
It wasn't intentional,so that renders it moot. The council are to blame for Saren and Sovereign being able to get a ready army of Geth (and Krogan) to use against the galaxy.
marshalleck wrote...
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/EkunaFirst discovered by the quarians at the turn of the century, Ekuna[/b] is habitable but a second-tier choice for most species. Circling an orange sun, Ekuna averages below freezing temperatures. This led development firms to colonize at the planet's equator, where the climate is tolerable for agriculture. The quarians, seeking a homeworld of their own, petitioned the Citadel Council for the right to take over Ekuna, but they had already settled a few hundred thousand quarians on the planet before approaching the Council. Seeing this occupation as an illegal act, the Council turned a deaf ear to quarian pleas and gave the world to the elcor, who could withstand the high gravity of the world far better. The quarians squatting on the planet were given one galactic standard month to leave, at which point their colonies would be bombarded.
No?
Nope. The quarians broke the law by settling before asking.
That's pedantic bull****. The elcor have their homeworld and several colonies, and had no interest in Ekuna; the quarians had nothing.
It's pretty clearly a case of the Council intentionally knee-capping the quarians for no good reason other than they can.
We do not judge the creators' anger towards us. We did them great harm in the Morning War.
Someone With Mass wrote...
Seboist wrote...
It wasn't intentional,so that renders it moot. The council are to blame for Saren and Sovereign being able to get a ready army of Geth (and Krogan) to use against the galaxy.
Because they knew all about his plans, right? They just sent Shepard after Saren for sh*tz and giggles.
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
That's pedantic bull****. The elcor have their homeworld and several colonies, and had no interest in Ekuna; the quarians had nothing.
Where does it say that the elcor had no interest? The quarians also didn't have to try and settle in Council space.
Modifié par marshalleck, 13 août 2011 - 12:45 .
marshalleck wrote...
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/EkunaFirst discovered by the quarians at the turn of the century, Ekuna[/b] is habitable but a second-tier choice for most species. Circling an orange sun, Ekuna averages below freezing temperatures. This led development firms to colonize at the planet's equator, where the climate is tolerable for agriculture. The quarians, seeking a homeworld of their own, petitioned the Citadel Council for the right to take over Ekuna, but they had already settled a few hundred thousand quarians on the planet before approaching the Council. Seeing this occupation as an illegal act, the Council turned a deaf ear to quarian pleas and gave the world to the elcor, who could withstand the high gravity of the world far better. The quarians squatting on the planet were given one galactic standard month to leave, at which point their colonies would be bombarded.
No?
Nope. The quarians broke the law by settling before asking.
That's pedantic bull****. The elcor have their homeworld and several colonies, and had no interest in Ekuna; the quarians had nothing.
It's pretty clearly a case of the Council intentionally knee-capping the quarians for no good reason other than they can.
Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 13 août 2011 - 12:47 .
Seboist wrote...
They indirectly enabled him. The three council races are the second greatest threat to the Galaxy.
When the Reapers are dealt with, my Shepard will lead a human-led coalition of Krogan,Geth,Quarian,Rachni,Batarian and Vorcha against them.
Kaiser Shepard wrote...
THEY BETRAYED THE LAW!
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
Can I assume those farms weren't quarian made?marshalleck wrote...
The elcor obviously had no interest otherwise they would have already registered some sort of intent to colonize there. It was almost entirely uninhabited (a few farms in the equatorial regions) when the quarians began setting down.
As an aside: this sort of example of judicial capriciousness is what breeds a healthy contempt for the law.
Someone With Mass wrote...
Seboist wrote...
They indirectly enabled him. The three council races are the second greatest threat to the Galaxy.
When the Reapers are dealt with, my Shepard will lead a human-led coalition of Krogan,Geth,Quarian,Rachni,Batarian and Vorcha against them.
Right...
Have fun with those civil wars.
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
Can I assume those farms weren't quarian made?marshalleck wrote...
The elcor obviously had no interest otherwise they would have already registered some sort of intent to colonize there. It was almost entirely uninhabited (a few farms in the equatorial regions) when the quarians began setting down.
As an aside: this sort of example of judicial capriciousness is what breeds a healthy contempt for the law.
Modifié par marshalleck, 13 août 2011 - 12:55 .
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
marshalleck wrote...
I don't think you can, considering it was the quarians who discovered Ekuna. They were probably quarian.
Kaiser Shepard wrote...
The quarians' problem with Ekuna is that they asked permission, and afterwards that they actually heeded the Council's warning. If they simply stood their ground, literally, they would've had their precious planet.
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
I don't think you can, considering it was the quarians who discovered Ekuna. They were probably quarian.
I checked and you are right. But, the quarians never laid claim to Ekuna. They also excepted the Council as a legitimate government (hence the quarian embassy). They accepted the Council's rules and laws before laiming Ekuna as their own.
In other words, still their fault.
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
Saphra Deden wrote...
The quarians no longer have an embassy and don't even reside in Council space. They accepted the Council's authority on Ekuna because they knew they couldn't stand up to them.
You want superiority? There it is.
You Council folk never cease to disgust me with your blatant hypocrisy and lack of empathy.
Modifié par The Big Bad Wolf, 13 août 2011 - 01:39 .
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
Sorry, but I'm not pro-Council
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
Saphra Deden wrote...
Well you act like.
Also, get an original line. (and a thought too)
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
Seboist wrote...
The council are the ones to blame for the Geth not the Quarians. If it wasn't for their stupidity and refusal to help the Quarians wipe out the Geth we wouldn't be facing a lot of the trouble we do now.
I disagree. If it wasn't for the quarians giving the geth the opportunity to become sapient, they wouldn't be in that mess.
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
InvincibleHero wrote...
So if your great great great grandfather is proven to have committed a murder and you are say a millionaire then you'd support the right of his descendants to sue for your money?
I agree with some of the sanctions levied by the council, but once the geth ejected them from their home system and made them space gypsies that they all complain about and drive away 300 years later, you'd think the sensible thing to do would be to have given them a place to live and solve all their problems and allow the quarians back into the fold. It seems unecessary. The quarians could resort to piracy against the coiuncil races and yet do not. They are subject to indignities they do not deserve. I am not pro-quarian but they do get the short end of the stick by any sensible analysis.
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
InvincibleHero wrote...
So if your great great great grandfather is proven to have committed a murder and you are say a millionaire then you'd support the right of his descendants to sue for your money?
I agree with some of the sanctions levied by the council, but once the geth ejected them from their home system and made them space gypsies that they all complain about and drive away 300 years later, you'd think the sensible thing to do would be to have given them a place to live and solve all their problems and allow the quarians back into the fold. It seems unecessary. The quarians could resort to piracy against the coiuncil races and yet do not. They are subject to indignities they do not deserve. I am not pro-quarian but they do get the short end of the stick by any sensible analysis.
lolwut?
The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
lolwut?InvincibleHero wrote...
So if your great great great grandfather is proven to have committed a murder and you are say a millionaire then you'd support the right of his descendants to sue for your money?
Lol. Phaedon, you really show your true colors with stuff like that. Marshal prophesized that someone would express an anti-human sentiment in the near future, and you simply hand-wave it when it happens ON THAT VERY THREAD.Phaedon wrote...
And I expected a lame attempt at being smart like that.SandTrout wrote...
Phaedon wanted an example of someone who wished for the subjegation of their own species...
Someone With Mass is a fine example.
Humanity accepted some rules by the Council, just like every other races. Wanting justice for not following them is racial equality, not the exact opposite.
SandTrout wrote...
Lol. Phaedon, you really show your true colors with stuff like that. Marshal prophesized that someone would express an anti-human sentiment in the near future, and you simply hand-wave it when it happens ON THAT VERY THREAD.
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