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[AlphaDormante]

earovin wrote...

Someone needs to write a Kaidan/Garrus confrontation, I have a feeling that it'd be hilarious x)

I'll take a crack at this in writing format (dwi ) ...though, uh, it didn't end up being funny at all

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"Comman - ...Shepard." It was thirty minutes until the drop, and she was loading thermal clips into her pistol - wasn't much good against Reapers, but every bit of extra ammo counted. Shepard tapped the side of the gun against her palm and watched the clip shoot out, silently waiting for Kaidan to continue. "We should talk."

"Not right now." Shepard leveled her side arm against a target on the far side of the room. "I need you to stay focused, Kaidan - we can talk as soon as this is over."

"The three of us might not be here when this is over, Shepard, and we all know it." That was a different voice; Shepard looked over her shoulder to see Garrus standing next to Kaidan, hands folded behind his back. Damn.

She lowered her pistol. "Okay. Let's talk."

"Shepard, I...I know what I said - back on Horizon -" Kaidan stumbled over his words. "- hurt you. I really thought you'd abandoned us...or worse, that Cerberus was controlling you. I said some things, and so did you, and...and to be honest, I still don't know where that left us."

"Or where I fit in," Garrus said suddenly, mandibles flaring. He took a sudden step forward - and then shrunk back again, as if chastened. "I - I mean...Commander, I had no idea you were already in a relationship until Horizon. Too busy calibrating the Mako, I guess," he shrugged, and only sounded like he was half-joking. "But it seemed like...spirits, you only said you wanted to blow off steam, Shepard. And if that's all you - if that's all it was, I can...respect that. But when you..."  The turian trailed off. Shepard and Kaidan watched in silence as his hand drew up and traced across the scars on his right mandible. After a long moment had passed, Garrus merely shook his head. "I just...I thought.."

He looked at Kaidan helplessly. The biotic quietly breathed in, eyes clenching in sympathy before opening and turning to Shepard. "And as for me...I meant everything I said in that letter, Shepard. I still do. I've never met a woman who makes me feel like I mean more than a speck of dust in a galaxy like this. When you died, I didn't know what to do with myself, and when you came back...well, I still didn't, as you probably could have guessed. But now you're here, and..."

He stepped forward, hand drifing to his chestplate. "...I want to be with you, Shepard." Then the same hand lifted from his chest and gestured to Garrus, who had quietly stepped forward as well. "We both do."

"But there's only one person whose opinion matters," Garrus muttered. His eyes drew up, flickered to Kaidan's, and then to hers. Mandibles drawn close to his face, his voice lowered. "Shepard...maybe we're all crazy, looking for it while the galaxy's blown halfway to hell with the rest on its way. But if there's any happiness out there...we just want you to find it."

Kaidan smiled a smile that was just a little forced. "No matter who it's with."
~~

Okay one, I am disgustingly horrible at mushy goo-goo, and two, the IC/OOC line is getting blurry from over here, so I'll just stop it there. Anyway, Shepard's choices at this point would look something like:

-"I've moved on, Kaidan."
-"I never meant to hurt you, Garrus."
-"Am I being punked? We have a galaxy to save, you sissies. I don't want a bunch of wilting flowers watching my back!"

[CMDR Locke]

earovin wrote...

Someone needs to write a Kaidan/Garrus confrontation, I have a feeling that it'd be hilarious x)

Garrus would throat punch Kaiden and stand on his throat whilest yelling something cool like "Gotcha" or "HEAD SHOT!"

[Spanky Magoo]

Femshep would mention garrus's "reach" lol

[LilyasAvalon]

OP is really good at writing... what about a Kaidan dumped for Garrus one?

Nevermind, I see it and I approve.

Modifié par LilyasAvalon, 13 août 2011 - 04:18 .

[Russianbear0027]

Garrus: So uh, I heard you and the commander blew off some steam before Ilos...
Kaidan: Yes, we did.
Garrus: *pause* I don't know if she told you but.... *explains*
Kaidan: I kinda earned that huh? ((or something along the lines of: I got the feeling she was adventurous but that...?))

Obviously they're more than a little ooc, but I trust in the brilliance of BW's writers XD

EDIT, also the other one better, though too idealistic I feel, they'd probably phrase the choice a bit differently. I feel they'd be both be mature enough to accept rejection gracefully in any case.

Modifié par Russianbear0027, 13 août 2011 - 04:21 .

[KatieLauren]

On my first play through, I didn't really start anything before Horizon because I was planning on just having my FemShep stay "loyal" to Kaiden, but when he threw his little hissy fit and turned his back on her, I was like, "well, hey there, Garrus..."

He just reminded me way too much of how the council treats her, and I just couldn't see my hot-headed FemShep standing for it. Besides, if there is some sort of confrontation (which there is bound to be) I'm just hoping there's a "you deserved it, ****" option.

[BlueMagitek]

Or better yet, a meeting of the Krogan!

Wrex: Shepard.
Shepard: Wrex.
Grunt: Wrex?
Shepard: Grunt!
Wrex: Shepard?
Shepard: Wrex...
Wrex: Shepard.
Grunt: Wrex!
Shepard: Grunt.
Zaeed: Shepard!
Wrex + Grunt: Zaeed?!
Shepard: x_x'

[Badpie]

 Oh good.  Juvenile fantasies and cat fights come to life.



Personally I hope they stay away from Shepard ego stroking and just stick with "So you're with so and so?  Fine.  I'm not happy but whatever."  *continue game as normal*

[AlphaDormante]

Badpie wrote...

 Oh good.  Juvenile fantasies and cat fights come to life.



Personally I hope they stay away from Shepard ego stroking and just stick with "So you're with so and so?  Fine.  I'm not happy but whatever."  *continue game as normal*

While this would be cool to see in some kind of love triangle, I really don't think it'd be in Mass Effect. The ME series is a dramutic space opera, and it'd be out of character for all but an arguable couple of the LIs to let Shep go without a fight.

I'd be happy if it just strays from being too gooey gumdrop-sparkles; for me, writing that Kaidan/Garrus example up top got pretty painful towards the middle, and I even took the cheap way out. I fully expect the real deal to have more conflict involved.

[LilyasAvalon]

Badpie wrote...

 Oh good.  Juvenile fantasies and cat fights come to life.



Personally I hope they stay away from Shepard ego stroking and just stick with "So you're with so and so?  Fine.  I'm not happy but whatever."  *continue game as normal*

You ain't getting your wish saddly, devs have confirmed drama.

[Wynne]

AlphaDormante wrote...

-"I've moved on, Kaidan."
-"I never meant to hurt you, Garrus."
-"Am I being punked? We have a galaxy to save, you sissies. I don't want a bunch of wilting flowers watching my back!"

Aww, c'mon. Cut off the last two paragraphs and you have a PERFECT setup for a, "Can't I have you both?" 

I actually liked what you wrote. It didn't look heavy-handed to me, and I prefer that. As long as neither guy is about to get into a major pissing contest, and they behave like mature adults, but still express feelings for Shepard rather than acting all "I'll just take my ball and go home" then I'm happy. 

Although, I do think Lordess Alicia has the right idea... :innocent:

Badpie wrote...
"So
you're with so and so?  Fine.  I'm not happy but whatever."  *continue
game as normal*

That makes me just as green smiley face as the cat fights. C'mon, there HAS to be a happy medium somewhere between lame Shepard ego-stroking and "Yo, too bad, whatevs"! Is there truly nothing to discuss, no explanations or emotions to work out, as if it was all just meaningless sex and no one acted on emotion? At the very least, Shepard cares for the people he or she has slept with. They're friends you had conversations with and fought for your life with, not random meaningless one-night stands on the Citadel. It can't be realistic to just shrug it off; that would cheapen Shepard emotionally.

I don't want full-blown catfights/dogfights (well... maybe a little, in a non-serious way) but a bit of tension and actual discussion is necessary. Neither the VS nor the ME2 LI nor the devs can be 100% sure whether Shepard's flings in ME1 *or* ME2 were the start of something that has real potential or just "we're friends and comrades who are possibly about to die" sex.

At the very least, they have to let the player make a choice, and it can't be too early on because you need time to see whether the old feelings with the VS are there or not. Because honestly? With some of my Shepards, I don't know. My FemShep with Liara never thought about anybody else, but I have Ash/Jack, Kaidan/Thane and Kaidan/Garrus playthroughs where the Shepard in question has strong feelings for both and isn't sure which is real love and which is a deep friendship + attraction. That's often not so easy a question to answer, and how the characters act in ME3 will play a big part in who I think is the right one for each particular Shepard. It would suck if, rather than having the chance to see how they've developed as people going into ME3 and how they interact with the Shep in question, the choice was taken away entirely and you're just plain with the ME2 LI. I would rather they do their best to make me feel like my Shep's a complete bastard than just shrug it off, honestly. Hell, I'd rather both of them say, "screw you." 

In real life, people are emotional and do things on impulse when they are under a great deal of stress. Getting busy with Jacob or Miranda, at least, doesn't necessarily mean that Shepard's deepest feelings weren't for the VS all along, and that they hadn't just done the consenting adults thing out of hurt and fear of death, or even the subconscious fear that the VS wouldn't want a scarred zombie freak anyway. To let it go without giving the player the opportunity to break it off with the ME2 LI would be pretty damned crummy.

Besides, Thane is a drell. Assuming he's still alive, there are consequences to being with a drell--he's going to remember every single detail of your time together whether you like it or not. That should be addressed! All the alien LIs should be noticed and their individual qualities should come out in some way. It would be interesting. Those relationships will either be harder to make work long-term, or easier because you don't go for an alien unless you really mean it.

[stwu]

I have a feeling that the confrontation will be sorta lame. I mean the dialogue wasn't all that great between LI in ME2 so I don't have any high expectations for ME3. Although I hope it's long enough to satisfy us romantics.

[Orion1836]

My thoughts on the Jack vs. Liara fight:



The Reapers won't have anything left to take over.

[IndelibleJester]

I'd personally love cat and dog fights. It's a game. Do crazy **** forever!

[King Minos]

Tai's ugly nasty side coming out and going psycho at Liara or Liara just walking around Tali, hands clenched yet angry sparks of biotics are spitting out. And Shepard is just in the background, o e hand down his trousers..

[Golden Owl]

Reading some of these stories....I am so relieved my Shep is an unromanced lonely boy....the stories are awesome though...

Modifié par Golden Owl, 15 août 2011 - 04:00 .

[Barquiel]

Golden Owl wrote...

Reading some of these stories....I am so relieved my Shep is an unromanced lonely boy....the stories are awesome though...

I doubt the confrontation scences play out like that. At the end of LOTSB, Liara seems like she pretty much gets over it if you do cheat on her with someone (I saw it on youtube^_^). And I hope Tali doesn't act like 14 years old girl (like the Tali in the first post of this thread) to stroke the player's ego.

Modifié par Barquiel, 15 août 2011 - 04:20 .

[MegaTommy]

That'd be kinda like an "introduction" to much deeper and intensive conversation that would happen later on.

Ash, after my Shep picked her up gets into the Captain Quarters. After a short talk, she approaches him, attempting to kiss him but Shep gently stops her. She stares at him, confused and irritated at the same time.
-Wh... What's wrong Skipper?
-Ash, you can't expect me to just get back to you like nothing ever happened.
-You're talking about Horizon? Again? Damn it Shepard, can't you just leave this? Can't you just move on?
-(Shep looks into her eyes)...I did.
(Ashley notices Tali's picture on Shepard's desk and slowly let go of him with shock and anger written all over her face)
-With... Her?!
-Ash, i'm sorry, i tried to contact you, but...
-But you finally decided not to, huh? This is a new low, "Commander".
-Ash, you're still important to me. I need you in my team, because you're one of the best damn Soldiers i know. There's time and place for everything, and right know, our home is under attack. And it needs both of us. //// You know what? I'm sick of this, sick of your attitude. You're here just because Anderson asked me to pick you up. So shut up and do your job or pack your things and leave.
(Tali suddenly walks in while typing/reading something on her Omni-Tool)
-Shepard, Garrus asked if you could...
(Ashley stares at Tali and then at Shepard)
-Williams? What are you doing here?
(Ashley starts walking towards the door)
-(If Shep picked the Paragon response) It's ok, mrs. Vas Normandy. I was just leaving (Right before she leaves she gives Shepard a dissapointed look)
(If Shep picked the Renegade response) No worries, mrs. Vas Normandy, i was about to finish. (Punches Shepard in the face). It's not over, "Commander".
(Ash leaves, ignoring Tali and not turning around)

Modifié par MegaTommy, 15 août 2011 - 07:10 .

[somecthemes]

I luckily have a playthrough or two with just about every combination I've read so far, and would likely end up playing all of them through ME3 just to see these little tidbits, but have to imagine that ME3 will try to put most of that baggage from the first game into the first 30 minutes, since they'll be pretty much wanting to unfold the new game and holding back to clear up a couple issues from a couple games ago would drag things out. So, while I'd love the chance to see every variation have it's own discourse, I imagine it'll mostly be like Liara's small bits of dialogue during her DLC, memorable, but probably only 30 seconds of dialog that everyone else skipped. I think most of these great ideas will have to play out in fanfiction or boards banter.

[King Minos]

Shepard being punched or put in his/her would be interesting, shepa squad are not under his/her command, they joined up to help.

[somecthemes]

Shep being punched... that just rubs me the wrong way, like Conrad Verner talking about how he learned from the great commander sheppard, it's just so wrong that he deserved to get shot in the foot. If someone punches my Shep, I want to punch back, and no wimping out too. If Tali tries to swing at me, I really want the opportunity to wobble that fish bowl, not just push her over slightly. Though I if I really had the chance to whack any squaddie from before, Kaiden just bugs me.

[green_lemur]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Or better yet, a meeting of the Krogan!

Wrex: Shepard.
Shepard: Wrex.
Grunt: Wrex?
Shepard: Grunt!
Wrex: Shepard?
Shepard: Wrex...
Wrex: Shepard.
Grunt: Wrex!
Shepard: Grunt.
Zaeed: Shepard!
Wrex + Grunt: Zaeed?!
Shepard: x_x'

now that would be funny.

[BatmanPWNS]

If a catfight occurs then I will lol.