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So I (somewhere) read something about your shep getting into violent and possibly mortal arguments with other party members (though I was incredibly tired at the time) and I need to ask are they really going all dragon age style on me?

Me2 Tali: I trust you shepard
Me3-----
Shep: lets be friends with geth!
Tali: no.
Pulls out shotgun and you kill her.

Please someone tell me its not true and I wont have to deal with party members being idiots.

Garrus: I hate you I want to leave
Shep: Waaaa?
Garrus I disagree with you for no real reason.
Shep: I don't want you to leave, we have to worry about the reapers!
Garrus attacks you.

So could someone explain that to me or at least tell me I'm wrong?Image IPB

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The party members in DA never attacked you for no reason..

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What PLC said; if there are disagreements that turn violent (like Wrex on Virmire), the writers would give us a story reason.

(Though having the conversations you mentioned as random options would be pretty funny.)

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I'm pretty sure you're not going to be killing them for such stupid reasons... and I'm also sure there will be a paragon or renegade option.

However, I think it would be an awesome addition. It really makes it feel like people are on edge during this time of crisis and if your squaddies are turning their backs on you and sabotaging you..then it could be understandable.

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Well if you screw over the Quarians why wouldn't Tali attack you?

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Any source...?

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Being able to kill Tali? I will just reload that save over and over again until it get boring. What am I saying, It iwll never get boring. 

Modifié par Kasai666, 12 août 2011 - 11:33 .


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Kasai666 wrote...

Being able to kill Tali? I will just reload that save over and over again until it get boring. What am I saying, It iwll never get boring. 


u must love this scene.

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Kasai666 wrote...

Being able to kill Tali? I will just reload that save over and over again until it get boring. What am I saying, It iwll never get boring. 


As long as I am able to do the same to Miranda

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Kasai666 wrote...

Being able to kill Tali? I will just reload that save over and over again until it get boring. What am I saying, It iwll never get boring. 


As long as I am able to do the same to Miranda

She is good as a squaddie. A +25% weapon damage and +15 to health is fantastic. Trust me, I hate her, but she is good for your squad. Thats not saying I want her dead...

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Skullheart wrote...

Kasai666 wrote...

Being able to kill Tali? I will just reload that save over and over again until it get boring. What am I saying, It iwll never get boring. 


u must love this scene.

Yea, thaty made my day. All the hate comments p!ssed me off though. 

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Kasai666 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Kasai666 wrote...

Being able to kill Tali? I will just reload that save over and over again until it get boring. What am I saying, It iwll never get boring. 


As long as I am able to do the same to Miranda

She is good as a squaddie. A +25% weapon damage and +15 to health is fantastic. Trust me, I hate her, but she is good for your squad. Thats not saying I want her dead...


Her dead would be better for squad moral

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Kasai666 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Kasai666 wrote...

Being able to kill Tali? I will just reload that save over and over again until it get boring. What am I saying, It iwll never get boring. 


As long as I am able to do the same to Miranda

She is good as a squaddie. A +25% weapon damage and +15 to health is fantastic. Trust me, I hate her, but she is good for your squad. Thats not saying I want her dead...


Her dead would be better for squad moral

True. Eh, I'll have her unloyal and bring her into the final mission. That way I still get the buff, but get rid of her. 

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The PLC wrote...

The party members in DA never attacked you for no reason..

First off
zev wants to leave you say no he attacks
zev attacks when you meet him
zev betrays you to assassins

lel betrays during sacred ashes
lel wants to leave fight
some other lel betrayal

Shale attacks if you keep anvil
shale attacks when she wants to leave
shale hate attacks you

wynne attack: circle
Wynne attack; circle v2
wynne attack hates you
wynne attack leaves
wynne attack blood mage
wynne attack ashes

sten attack leadership

oghren attack: hates you

So don't tell me that, please.

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Squadmates are idiots when they stay obedient puppies even if Shepard spits into their ideals and insults them. I'd welcome a confrontation with Tali about geth matters, or Samara actually hunting my renegade Shep, or whatever. Makes for a more believable narrative.

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randomchasegurney wrote...

The PLC wrote...

The party members in DA never attacked you for no reason..

First off
zev wants to leave you say no he attacks
zev attacks when you meet him
zev betrays you to assassins

lel betrays during sacred ashes
lel wants to leave fight
some other lel betrayal

Shale attacks if you keep anvil
shale attacks when she wants to leave
shale hate attacks you

wynne attack: circle
Wynne attack; circle v2
wynne attack hates you
wynne attack leaves
wynne attack blood mage
wynne attack ashes

sten attack leadership

oghren attack: hates you

So don't tell me that, please.



Actualy what PLC said is accurate they don't attack you for no reason.   In all those examples you used they had reason.  I am pretty sure in ME 3 if you sell their particular species down the river I am sure they would attack you.  I am pretty sure if you let the Migrant Fleet burn for example Tali won't be to happy about it.

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LGTX wrote...

Squadmates are idiots when they stay obedient puppies even if Shepard spits into their ideals and insults them. I'd welcome a confrontation with Tali about geth matters, or Samara actually hunting my renegade Shep, or whatever. Makes for a more believable narrative.



This

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LadyJaneGrey wrote...

What PLC said; if there are disagreements that turn violent (like Wrex on Virmire), the writers would give us a story reason.

(Though having the conversations you mentioned as random options would be pretty funny.)

So it is true?Image IPB
As long as it is like wrex and not like per say...
Wynne your a blood mageImage IPB
Me: I know right? I'm so awesome.Image IPB
Wynne: I want to killz youImage IPB
Me: Just think how usefu- WHAT?Image IPB
Wynne: DIE!!!1!!11!!!

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

randomchasegurney wrote...

The PLC wrote...

The party members in DA never attacked you for no reason..

First off
zev wants to leave you say no he attacks
zev attacks when you meet him
zev betrays you to assassins

lel betrays during sacred ashes
lel wants to leave fight
some other lel betrayal

Shale attacks if you keep anvil
shale attacks when she wants to leave
shale hate attacks you

wynne attack: circle
Wynne attack; circle v2
wynne attack hates you
wynne attack leaves
wynne attack blood mage
wynne attack ashes

sten attack leadership

oghren attack: hates you

So don't tell me that, please.



Actualy what PLC said is accurate they don't attack you for no reason.   In all those examples you used they had reason.  I am pretty sure in ME 3 if you sell their particular species down the river I am sure they would attack you.  I am pretty sure if you let the Migrant Fleet burn for example Tali won't be to happy about it.

But if I disagree with YOU I still don't have the right to murder YOU. Then again this is a different time period.

KotorEffect3 wrote...

LGTX wrote...

Squadmates are idiots when they stay obedient puppies even if Shepard spits into their ideals and insults them. I'd welcome a confrontation with Tali about geth matters, or Samara actually hunting my renegade Shep, or whatever. Makes for a more believable narrative.



This

True but in Dao they did not complain at the time until much later like I could cast bloodmagic and they did not care until 5 hoursImage IPB (one game year) later.Image IPB
Or its like I will destroy the symbol of an entire religion any complaints?
...
....
That sounds mean
power power POWER!!!!
They are not violent until I do it. They did not seem to care enough until I did it. Did they think I was bluffing?

As long as it is more like the wrex confrontation then I am good. IF it is true.

Modifié par randomchasegurney, 13 août 2011 - 12:15 .


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if this is true, i am SOOOOO killing James mcpiggyface

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Your examples are... Weird. Disagreements flow deeper than irrational mood swings.

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randomchasegurney wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

randomchasegurney wrote...

The PLC wrote...

The party members in DA never attacked you for no reason..

First off
zev wants to leave you say no he attacks
zev attacks when you meet him
zev betrays you to assassins

lel betrays during sacred ashes
lel wants to leave fight
some other lel betrayal

Shale attacks if you keep anvil
shale attacks when she wants to leave
shale hate attacks you

wynne attack: circle
Wynne attack; circle v2
wynne attack hates you
wynne attack leaves
wynne attack blood mage
wynne attack ashes

sten attack leadership

oghren attack: hates you

So don't tell me that, please.



Actualy what PLC said is accurate they don't attack you for no reason.   In all those examples you used they had reason.  I am pretty sure in ME 3 if you sell their particular species down the river I am sure they would attack you.  I am pretty sure if you let the Migrant Fleet burn for example Tali won't be to happy about it.

But if I disagree with YOU I still don't have the right to murder YOU. Then again this is a different time period.



You don't have to like the reasoning but it is still there, so you can't say it is NO reason.  But this is a different franchise and different setting.  I am pretty sure your Shepard would have to do something pretty drastic for them to turn on you but I like that the option is there.

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randomchasegurney wrote...

The PLC wrote...

The party members in DA never attacked you for no reason..

First off
zev wants to leave you say no he attacks
zev attacks when you meet him
zev betrays you to assassins

lel betrays during sacred ashes
lel wants to leave fight
some other lel betrayal

Shale attacks if you keep anvil
shale attacks when she wants to leave
shale hate attacks you

wynne attack: circle
Wynne attack; circle v2
wynne attack hates you
wynne attack leaves
wynne attack blood mage
wynne attack ashes

sten attack leadership

oghren attack: hates you

So don't tell me that, please.



All of that is so retardedly out of context someone would have to be an idiot to take your comment at face value.

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^you have me there.
What I am getting at is there should be some small plot reason.

Modifié par randomchasegurney, 13 août 2011 - 12:31 .


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removed I am tired of rewriting this.Image IPB

Modifié par randomchasegurney, 13 août 2011 - 12:29 .