simple observation, 1 person dies each time a ritual is performed(only by the ones actualy shown and heard) and from what i put in a thread(which ended up in the wrong one) would Jory survive the Joining? the answer is: its definitely a possibility. i mean Alistair says he only lost 1, in Awakening out of Anders,Oghren,Mahariel(not sure on spelling or name) she dies, and if you look at the circumstance, if another party of 3 did the joining such as Sigrun,Velanna, and Justice one of them dies, but Bioware made so someone doesnt die in which case have the spirit of Justice inhabit a grey warden. course who knows if a spirit inhabits a body he would have to go through with it.
just my look on this Joining ritual. just got me curious on Jory's situation
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Posté 14 août 2011 - 05:40
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Well of course characters that are significant to the plot survive. Jory is not and also Jory refused the Joining. Duncan was following standard procedure.
Its very deadly and one of the reasons the Wardens often recruit from people who have no other choice.
Its very deadly and one of the reasons the Wardens often recruit from people who have no other choice.
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Posté 15 août 2011 - 05:45
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no one has a choice prince or porper they have the `right of conscription` they should recuit chemist and make it safer its a bit crap if 30% army die before they reach the battle field.
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Posté 15 août 2011 - 08:32
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Well, it's true that a fraction of the recruits dying would put a dent in any army's numbers. However, I feel that the selective, deadly and lethal nature of the joining is just part of what adds to the Grey Wardens mystique. It is what makes them so dedicated, and worth that much more.
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Posté 16 août 2011 - 10:34
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@Balthazod & @Mr.E_Solver
You answered your own posts in a round about way. Grey Wardens are NOT an Army. They are a Order who works with other nations forces/armys.
Also they can conscript anyone, anytime but they repetedly use discretion with this to only conscript people who have no other choices or are on death row/imprisoned. Joining the Wardens is considered a Death Sentance. A Noble one but still all the same.
Pay more attention to the lore of the game and read the novels.
You answered your own posts in a round about way. Grey Wardens are NOT an Army. They are a Order who works with other nations forces/armys.
Also they can conscript anyone, anytime but they repetedly use discretion with this to only conscript people who have no other choices or are on death row/imprisoned. Joining the Wardens is considered a Death Sentance. A Noble one but still all the same.
Pay more attention to the lore of the game and read the novels.
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Posté 26 août 2011 - 01:52
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Wrong The guy whio gets murdered by Duncan when he has a change of mind, has wife and child and was recruited because he won the Grand Melle in a joust competition.
So take your own advice and pay attention
So take your own advice and pay attention
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 01:22
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Old,but interesting topic
I always imagined Jory living to tell the tale and becoming a grey warden...IF he didn't changed his mind in the last moments,but we'll never know.
But WHAT makes a person survive the joining?
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 03:43
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I find the eager ones who want to be Wardens die, while the hesitant ones usually survive (minus Oghren). Personally I think Jory would have survived the Joining if he hadn't freaked out over it and tried to attack Duncan. I even had my Warden state she was shocked Duncan killed him, and he said it was because he drew first.
As for Awakening, you only get one death because the others that join are meant to be your new companions. Sadly, though I liked Mhairi, she was obviously not planned to be a major companion, despite gaining approval from her before her death and like you said, Alistair said only one died during his Joining. That makes me believe Jory's death was his own fault, so I do believe he would have survived it, and to be honest, I personally thought Nathaniel would die from it since you have the option of killing him in the prison and a Howe dying during the ritual might have been more dramatic, but he survived.
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 05:54
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We don't have enough data to say what the probability of surviving the joining is. You can flip a coin 5 times and get tails once heads four times doesn't mean there's an 80% chance of getting heads just means it landed on heads 80% of that 5 tried.
We also don't know if age, gender or race are a factor in if you survive. We'd need to do a proper scientific study to say with any degree of certainty. For now all we can do is wild speculation.
We also don't know if age, gender or race are a factor in if you survive. We'd need to do a proper scientific study to say with any degree of certainty. For now all we can do is wild speculation.
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Posté 19 février 2015 - 06:09
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We don't have enough data to say what the probability of surviving the joining is. You can flip a coin 5 times and get tails once heads four times doesn't mean there's an 80% chance of getting heads just means it landed on heads 80% of that 5 tried.
We also don't know if age, gender or race are a factor in if you survive. We'd need to do a proper scientific study to say with any degree of certainty. For now all we can do is wild speculation.
From what we know of dwarves, they handle it a bit better than a human and they don't dream, but once Oghren drank the blood, he had weird (and hilarious) dreams, so it changed him a bit.
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Posté 23 février 2015 - 03:57
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From what we know of dwarves, they handle it a bit better than a human and they don't dream, but once Oghren drank the blood, he had weird (and hilarious) dreams, so it changed him a bit.
Oghren handled the joining like a boss
Drinking darkspawn blood as if it was only dwarven ale
haha
Best moment in awakening
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