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[Sagar DKar]

Dressed like one, turned into a dragon like Flemeth, trapped in same prison location as Corephyus.  Hmmmm.

[whykikyouwhy]

I think Malvernis is older than the magisters. The codex entry on Amgeforn the Foul states this:

"We called it Malvernis. The Pestilent One. It devoured thaigs, turning our fairest work into a noxious waste. It consumed living warriors, turning their bodies to slime, and when its hunger was not abated, it consumed the bones of our ancestors."

If anything, Malvernis may be the taint incarnate. If the Magisters (who invaded the Golden-Black City) were the first awakened darkspawn, maybe Malvernis is the personification of that which tainted them. Maybe he was within the Golden-Black City and came back into the living world with them.

Modifié par whykikyouwhy, 14 août 2011 - 02:39 .

[Sagar DKar]

If he is older could he be an elf then? His face was covered with a robe.

[whykikyouwhy]

An elf? Certainly a possibility, sure. Or some creature we have never seen before. What's odd is that his robes look like standard mage's robes, much like what what Anders wears. I'm no expeert in robes, but elven mages seem to wear something different.

He could just be disfigured from eating rotten Twinkies. Who knows.

[Sagar DKar]

That's why he is called the foul....rotten Twinkies!!!

[whykikyouwhy]

Twinkies are products of evil - they are tainted in and of themselves. Rotten twinkies would be a pestilence and scourge upon all of the known world.

Yep. The more I think about it, the more I believe he is a direct byproduct of rotten Twinkies.

[whykikyouwhy]

Although, to expand the theory further, if we look at Amgeforn as an anagram for "fromage" with an extra "n" ("n'fromage"), then Malvernis/Amgeforn the Foul could, in acuality, be the Stinky Cheese Man.

Which would still be a state that is due in part to rotten Twinkies. But perhaps now we have a new name for him.

[Sagar DKar]

Possible Magisters

Corephyus
Malvernis
Flemeth
The Architect
Andraste

5 Magisters = Five Dragons=Five Archdemons=5 Blights.

Modifié par Sagar DKar, 14 août 2011 - 03:32 .

[mousestalker]

Sagar DKar wrote...

Possible Magisters

Corephyus
Malvernis
Flemeth
The Architect
Andraste

5 Magisters = Five Dragons=Five Archdemons=5 Blights.

5 Magisters = Five Dragons=Five Archdemons= 5 Guys = Decent place for burgers.

Still not as good as Smashburgers, but then again what is?

[Sagar DKar]

I knew those burgers tasted a little Dragonish...

[whykikyouwhy]

mousestalker wrote...

Sagar DKar wrote...

Possible Magisters

Corephyus
Malvernis
Flemeth
The Architect
Andraste

5 Magisters = Five Dragons=Five Archdemons=5 Blights.

5 Magisters = Five Dragons=Five Archdemons= 5 Guys = Decent place for burgers.

Still not as good as Smashburgers, but then again what is?

And 5 Guys has nothing on In-N-Out Burger, but I digress.

For the record *points to avatar* I am not a magister.

One of the tricky things about the Flemeth-is-a-magister theory is that it doesn't explain her lack of corruption/tainted condition. If the stories are to be believed, when the magisters entered Rotten Twinkie City, they all become tainted, and carried the taint back with them into the living/mortal realm. She shows no sign of this. She could have switch bodies, sure. But then why hang around Thedas, living in the Wilds, raising daughters, rescuing Wardens and people of the Hawke blood?

I suspect there is more to me Flemeth than meets the eye.

[Sagar DKar]

What if Flemeth was the one who said man this stupid and did not go with the original magisters into the city. They go, the crap hits the fan, she bolts. I do find it weird that her and Andraste both end up in Ferelden.

[whykikyouwhy]

A possibility, sure. We dwell in a realm of possibilities.

But Flemeth also seems to have respect for the elves, and the Tevinter Imperium suppressed them. So unless she was enlightened all around (recognized the folly in invading the Rotten Twinkie, didn't find the treatment of the elves fair, etc), it doesn't quite fit. At least for me. I could very well be prove wrong somewhere down the road, at which time, I shall attempt to console myself with copious amounts of alcohol. But that's more digressing.

Fereldan is a hot bed for heroes. Center of the Blights, and close to that exciting tourist attration of Kirkwall - or Hellmouth by the Bay. Lots of energy there.

Modifié par whykikyouwhy, 14 août 2011 - 04:09 .

[Sagar DKar]

Now we have dealt with a Spectral Dragon in Awakenings, but when you kill it it is still a Spectral Dragon. When you kill Malvernis he resorts to real (dead) dragon just like Flemeth.

[whykikyouwhy]

How else could you pillage teh loots, if not for a dead dragon corpse?  Be a bit difficult to get that from something spectral.

[Esbatty]

I ravished her body but good. And I'd do it again.

[Sagar DKar]

Yeah but in awakenings you do get loot from a dead Spectral Dragon. Ohhh Ghost loot.

[Bryy_Miller]

mousestalker wrote...

Sagar DKar wrote...

Possible Magisters

Corephyus
Malvernis
Flemeth
The Architect
Andraste

5 Magisters = Five Dragons=Five Archdemons=5 Blights.

5 Magisters = Five Dragons=Five Archdemons= 5 Guys = Decent place for burgers.

Still not as good as Smashburgers, but then again what is?

I'm reading some aesome theories on the BSN lately.

[miraclemight]

Whatever Flemeth is, she's not a Magister. She's not even a human. We know. Morrigan knows. Hawke knows...

As for Malvernis, I used to think he was a very very powerful demon, like Xebenkeck or Gaxkang. We already know that there's a "Formless One". Whether it was Malvernis or something entirely different, remains to be seen.

[miraclemight]

Shapeshifting is an ability that was 'preserved' by witches. Circle mages are unaware of it because it's not taught there.

[Gervaise]

Flemeth could be the product of an old god soul jump, which is how she knows it works and would account for the dragon shape changing ability. According to the Morrigan version of her story, she was mage who escaped to the wilds and then encountered the demon from whom she received her current powers. If for demon, you read spirit, to distinguish from the normal ones that inhabit mages, this could have been trapped in an artifact which she found or simply another person because the spirit regarded her as a more promising host. I don't see how she could be a magister unless one of them was trapped in the Korachi Wilds.

What I have never been clear about is that when Riorden tells the story of how to destroy the archdemon, he says the soul transfer destroys both souls - which I took to mean annihilation for both. Then message on screen tells you that it just kills them, as in the mortal shell, which would suggest that the spirit is then free to return to the fade, from which it would then be possible for it to return to the physical world at a later date.

Doesn't anything powerful ever really die in this world?

[whykikyouwhy]

Gervaise wrote...
Doesn't anything powerful ever really die in this world?

Under the right conditions, sure. There's a specific formula, a magical combination that would be required to truly destroy anything of significant power. Otherwise, it wouldn't be all that powerful.

[Morroian]

Sagar DKar wrote...

If he is older could he be an elf then? His face was covered with a robe.

this theory was raised a while back, maybe he was one of the Forgotten Ones, one of them was Lord of Pestilence or somesuch.

Modifié par Morroian, 14 août 2011 - 01:12 .