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Uh huh.

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elektrego wrote...
Well they could think of other ways to pleasure each other without embracing eternity, there are many ways to enjoy each others company. ;) It's really a question of how you define sex. There is no rule that says you have to do it the way that nature intended.

I guess, but do we have conclusive evidence that asari actually experience 'pleasure' from physical sex?

And can they choose to not 'meld' when having sex?

Because if that's a yes to both then I really don't see the big deal with Morinth's ardat yakshiness then.

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GodWood wrote...

I guess, but do we have conclusive evidence that asari actually experience 'pleasure' from physical sex?

And can they choose to not 'meld' when having sex?

Because if that's a yes to both then I really don't see the big deal with Morinth's ardat yakshiness then.


It's not really conclusive, but that "Azure" remark in LotSB seems to hint at this, also the romance scenes with Liara have a rather physical quality to it.

"Melding" seems to require to look in each others eyes, keeping them closed might help, maybe  special goggles, unless...

On the one hand you'd think, if it was possible to live around the condition other than locking them away, there would be knowledge about it somewhere, on the other hand it seems to be a really big taboo among the Asari, so this knowledge might actually be suppressed.
It's an interesting question: Can love work, when one partner has a dangerous condition? HIV comes to mind as a possible comparison in reality, though it is no immidiate death sentence. But this thread is about Samara, so I will stop myself right here.

Modifié par elektrego, 03 septembre 2011 - 02:18 .


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And you don't need to have sex to love someone.

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yorkj86 wrote...

And you don't need to have sex to love someone.


That is also true.
In fact, I am all for the concept of light romances in addition to the main ones, where you just get the option to tell a character like Morinth, Samara, Emily Wong or Gianna Parasini, that you really like them, leaving everything else up to the imagination of the player. For me the conversation part of the romances is more important than the sex scene anyway and I just want the game to acknowledge that this one character is the most important NPC to this one of my Shepards.

Modifié par elektrego, 03 septembre 2011 - 04:31 .


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GodWood wrote...

elektrego wrote...
Well they could think of other ways to pleasure each other without embracing eternity, there are many ways to enjoy each others company. ;) It's really a question of how you define sex. There is no rule that says you have to do it the way that nature intended.

I guess, but do we have conclusive evidence that asari actually experience 'pleasure' from physical sex?

And can they choose to not 'meld' when having sex?

Because if that's a yes to both then I really don't see the big deal with Morinth's ardat yakshiness then.

I've also wondered and you're right, if an Asari can hold back on the melding during sex than Ardat-Yakshi would not be a problem. I guess that's why Morinth is such a problem though, melding is a proably a mandatory part of the romantic process.

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jreezy wrote...

GodWood wrote...

elektrego wrote...
Well they could think of other ways to pleasure each other without embracing eternity, there are many ways to enjoy each others company. ;) It's really a question of how you define sex. There is no rule that says you have to do it the way that nature intended.

I guess, but do we have conclusive evidence that asari actually experience 'pleasure' from physical sex?

And can they choose to not 'meld' when having sex?

Because if that's a yes to both then I really don't see the big deal with Morinth's ardat yakshiness then.

I've also wondered and you're right, if an Asari can hold back on the melding during sex than Ardat-Yakshi would not be a problem. I guess that's why Morinth is such a problem though, melding is a proably a mandatory part of the romantic process.


Even if it's not, don't get the Ardat Yakshi addicted to the whole killing by sex stuff? That's at least how I understood it. Would probably a little bit problematic to cure them from that addiction, if you don't prevent that from the start.

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I am all for some Samara (LI) in ME3 she is very exotic. I like every female (LI) I my be to easy.

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Morinth was dangerous because she was addicted to murder and COULDN'T stop,\\ and I think that's why Samara insisted that she be eliminated. She enjoyed murder and continued to do so with a song in her heart. I think this a very different from an asari with the potential to kill someone by using to much brain sex juices and abstains; having no interest in killing anyone and taking no joy from the act.

I think Asari should be able to do it the "human" way and add the brain melding for extra "oomph", But not necessary beyound preference and reproduction.

Make Samra an LI. I actually ENJOYED how she was in ME2. But if you could continue to pursue her in ME3 if you were "loyal" it'd be great.

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I support this idea :D

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Pfft.

Samara is meh. You should take my advice and get jiggy with Liara.

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Samara should return, but not as an LI.

I like the direction Bioware went with her in ME2, where her vows were more important than whatever she might have been feeling towards Shepard. "In another time..another llife" shouldn't mean, "In Mass Effect 3."

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People seem to be under the impression that Samara rejected Shepard because of her vows. This is not the case. She explicitly states the Code does not forbid Justicars from entering into relationships. Her reasons for turning Shepard down are more to do with her age – more specifically Shepard's age – and her family history.

Neither of these reasons is insurmountable. I would love to see Samara return as an LI, but it is very unlikely that she will.

Now why was this post necroed when there's a perfectly good support thread right here?

Modifié par Athayniel, 11 octobre 2011 - 09:56 .


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Han Shot First wrote...

Samara should return, but not as an LI.

I like the direction Bioware went with her in ME2, where her vows were more important than whatever she might have been feeling towards Shepard. "In another time..another llife" shouldn't mean, "In Mass Effect 3."


That. She said she wouldn't give into shep on personal reasons not her code she shouldn't be an LI neither should Mordin.

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People seem to be under the impression that Samara rejected Shepard because of her vows. This is not the case. She explicitly states the Code does not forbid Justicars from entering into relationships. Her reasons for turning Shepard down are more to do with her age – more specifically Shepard's age – and her family history.


While the code may not explicitly forbid relationships, her vows are the reason Samara gives Shepard for not pursuing a relationship with him. She's made a personal choice to not be involved in any relationships because she's married to being a Justicar.

Shepard: Samara, we have a connection.

Samara: I would not have dreamed that one so young could touch me. But Shepard, you must put the thought from your mind. It can never be.

Shepard: Samara it can be. You just have to open your mind.

Samara:  I serve a code stronger and deeper than any feelings. If we survive this mission, my oath to you ends. I will be bound by the Code again. That makes a relationship impossible.



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I'm hoping we get to see her at all..

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The ironic thing about Samara is that I think she has the best written romance in Mass Effect 2, and it is one in which Shepard ultimately gets rejected. lol

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Han Shot First wrote...

The ironic thing about Samara is that I think she has the best written romance in Mass Effect 2, and it is one in which Shepard ultimately gets rejected. lol


She's a far better written character than Liara imo.

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Han Shot First wrote...


People seem to be under the impression that Samara rejected Shepard because of her vows. This is not the case. She explicitly states the Code does not forbid Justicars from entering into relationships. Her reasons for turning Shepard down are more to do with her age – more specifically Shepard's age – and her family history.


While the code may not explicitly forbid relationships, her vows are the reason Samara gives Shepard for not pursuing a relationship with him. She's made a personal choice to not be involved in any relationships because she's married to being a Justicar.


Yeah, I always got the impression it was due to personal vows to herself that she doesn't ever want to get in a relationship again, not due to Justicar vows.

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You mean the optional party member that can die twice?

The best you can hope for is temporary having her in the squad as part of some small quest

Modifié par DarthCaine, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:34 .


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According to AdmiralCheez's admittedly unscientific poll of BSN users saved games she survives to the end of ME2 as often as Tali does.

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slimgrin wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

The ironic thing about Samara is that I think she has the best written romance in Mass Effect 2, and it is one in which Shepard ultimately gets rejected. lol


She's a far better written character than Liara imo.


And she's the only one in the series who doesn't **** a lot. She bottles things up infact. Not saying it's good just there is no character in the games that are just fun like say Zevran or Anders (In Awakening!)

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Ringo12 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

The ironic thing about Samara is that I think she has the best written romance in Mass Effect 2, and it is one in which Shepard ultimately gets rejected. lol


She's a far better written character than Liara imo.


And she's the only one in the series who doesn't **** a lot. She bottles things up infact. Not saying it's good just there is no character in the games that are just fun like say Zevran or Anders (In Awakening!)


Liara is heavy on the fanservice, whereas Samara seems like the writers took a more mature approach. Plus Liara's bizarre personality shift in ME2 made no sense to me.

Modifié par slimgrin, 11 octobre 2011 - 07:05 .


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I would support this. The more the merrier-- as long as they did it well. Do it well or not at all.

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slimgrin wrote...


Liara is heavy on the fanservice, whereas Samara seems like the writers took a more mature approach. Plus Liara's bizarre personality shift in ME2 made no sense to me.


Fan service, anyone?

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There was plenty of fan service involved in both characters, and the Asari in general. The whole species are basically hot women with an exotic skin tone. They're the Mass Effect version of Star Trek's green alien space babe.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 13 octobre 2011 - 10:40 .