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#101
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I second that.
Samara is like the only interesting woman in ME for me.
It really sucked that she didn't want to love me.

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I support that idea as well! She was really interesting, charming and intelligent.

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No means no

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Vyse_Fina wrote...

Didn't the devs already say that there won't be any new LIs because people have other stuff on their mid during a reaper invasion? Then again... how would the gay LIs work out if that was the case? Oh well... There are enough LIs in the game and I am quite glad with what Bioware did with her in ME2 in this regard. It nade the world and the character more believeable.

Apart from all that: Samara wasn't THAT popular, could be dead and could have a lookalike replacement. It seems unikely that she will be a permanent squadmember in ME3 as well, so romance is unlikely and a bad idea on top of it.


It seems like your the one of the people who took her at face value and didnt really get to know her character, and how intriguing she really is. And who are you to say it was a bad idea, alot of poeple love her complexity. I like all of the other LI to, but most of them end up becoming open books pretty quickly. I like what Bioware did in ME2 having her reject you, that being said they should make it a challenge to win her love in ME3, somthing you really have to work at. And just because a character isn't "THAT popular" to you, does not mean that they aren't one of the best.

And by the way she is! Samara:wub:

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Modifié par warlock22, 17 octobre 2011 - 02:48 .


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I've waited long enough dammit. Come on Samara, let me embrace your eternities! Both of them.

Modifié par slimgrin, 17 octobre 2011 - 02:35 .


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Xilizhra wrote...

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No, there will never be a romance between Samara and Shepard, she made that perfectly clear. And I think it's very nice to have someone you can't have. She is the ultimate forbidden fruit. Delisious.

I find this sentiment peculiar. Unfulfilled desire isn't pleasant to me.


Exactly!

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warlock22 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

kumquats wrote...

No, there will never be a romance between Samara and Shepard, she made that perfectly clear. And I think it's very nice to have someone you can't have. She is the ultimate forbidden fruit. Delisious.

I find this sentiment peculiar. Unfulfilled desire isn't pleasant to me.


Exactly!


Ditto.

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I'm conflicted on this topic. Samara really stood out to me, and there was never an occasion where I rolled my eyes at her for being herpy derpy.

She's calm, mature, and under control of herself even with the irresitable Shepard. It's part of what I like about her. Several hundred years of dedication to a higher calling still mean more to her than embracing eternity.

That said I do like one of the final conversations with her when she tells you that you have been a good friend and that if you are ever in need of help to call on her and she will be there. I honestly believe that.

Sexy time or a lasting friendship....hard choice

Modifié par FeralEwok, 17 octobre 2011 - 12:23 .


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FeralEwok wrote...

I'm conflicted on this topic. Samara really stood out to me, and there was never an occasion where I rolled my eyes at her for being herpy derpy.

She's calm, mature, and under control of herself even with the irresitable Shepard. It's part of what I like about her. Several hundred years of dedication to a higher calling still mean more to her than embracing eternity.

That said I do like one of the final conversations with her when she tells you that you have been a good friend and that if you are ever in need of help to call on her and she will be there. I honestly believe that.

Sexy time or a lasting friendship....hard choice


But Samara didn't just turn down a sexual relationship with Shepard. She turned down a romantic relationship, a connection, a bond with Shepard. Her code doesn't forbid romantic involvement. It's not a love or duty type of sitatuation. She can have both, if she so chooses...

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I didnt mean to imply with the "sexy time" bit that it was just sexual. I should have just plain said romance. It's true that its not forbidden for her to have romance, but I think it's her own code of sorts that compells her not to seek romance. That time in her life is over and it may be better for her to focus on what she feels is more important than her own feelings.

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I don't know about that. I mean I know shes say's that part of her life is over, but when you go in for a kiss, she does the same thing. She stops you AND her self at the last second, then after she says her line's she strokes her hand down your cheek. And you can tell by the look on her face that she's fighting it. If that part of her life was truly over, I don't think it would have really bothered her.

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Just because she may want it or be tempted doesn't mean that it is not over though. The fact that she DID refuse, even if it was last minute, could be taken as a definate.

...or maybe she's the galaxy's most patient tease. Could be wrong.

You can have feeling for someone but its the actions you take that dictate whether or not you are romantically involved. A flimsy example would be that if someone said they have quit drinking gets the urge to have a cold one around others who are drinking, but still refuses then they have lived up to that promise they have made to themselves or whoever.

Also I try and consider that she's been detached for a long time so it may just take some time to warm up. I know that either having a relationship with her or not could still work and I wouldnt feel it would be a betrayal of her character...it was probably left ambiguous for a reason.

Modifié par FeralEwok, 17 octobre 2011 - 07:52 .


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FeralEwok wrote...

Just because she may want it or be tempted doesn't mean that it is not over though. The fact that she DID refuse, even if it was last minute, could be taken as a definate.

...or maybe she's the galaxy's most patient tease. Could be wrong.

Heh, Samara doesn't strike me as a tease. =P I think it's possible she could just change her mind after a great deal of introspection over the last four hundred years of her life being about a singular goal. It must feel like a huge and daunting chasm is just ahead of her where there is a clear demarcatoin of a part of her life having ended now with Morinth's death so what does she do with her life from now on. Asari tend to take a long view of things thanks to their great lifespan, so what happens when the long view you've been using to guide your actions and decisions suddenly has no meaning anymore?

You can have feeling for someone but its the actions you take that dictate whether or not you are romantically involved. A flimsy example would be that if someone said they have quit drinking gets the urge to have a cold one around others who are drinking, but still refuses then they have lived up to that promise they have made to themselves or whoever.

Also I try and consider that she's been detached for a long time so it may just take some time to warm up. I know that either having a relationship with her or not could still work and I wouldnt feel it would be a betrayal of her character...it was probbaly left ambiguous for a reason.


I can see it going either way, to be honest. I hope it's possible for it to go in the way of romance. We won't know for months yet.

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Athayniel wrote...


... Asari tend to take a long view of things thanks to their great lifespan, so what happens when the long view you've been using to guide your actions and decisions suddenly has no meaning anymore?

I can see it going either way, to be honest. I hope it's possible for it to go in the way of romance. We won't know for months yet.


I don't know if it no longer has any meaning for Samara, or at least I don't remember anything coming up that says otherwise.

Despite me playing Devil's advocate for a bit on the Samara romance I will still pursue it if it's an option.

Modifié par FeralEwok, 17 octobre 2011 - 08:18 .


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FitScotGaymer wrote...

I really hope not.

I mean you people do realise that Samara is elderly?

Matriarch Stage of the Asari is equivalent to a 60+ human female. So you guys are wanting to mack on an old lady.

Yeah. Just no for me.


I love how people like this always bring this up. The whole Samara is old. YES WE GET IT! But here is the thing, as you know age is just a number, and lets see what am I forgeting... oh yeah asari DONT AGE as they say in the game they are ageless, thats why she does'nt look old. So please stop with this age stuff, because it  is getting OLD! The people who want to be with Samara dont care about her age! In fact thats one of the very reasons why a lot of people like her. It sets her apart from all the other LI.

Modifié par warlock22, 17 octobre 2011 - 11:12 .


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“clmlizard: Will the attempted romance with Samara be remembered or acknowledge in ME3?”


MW: For all the relationship options, we always try to carry those forward as much as we can and have all of them available. And the attempted Samara romance is one that we’ve tracked and we do have something for ME3, yes.
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I vote yes to this... it seemed other relationships were too easily established. Samara is so interesting, strong, and intelligent/wise. While part of me doesn't want her to be a full-born, suddenly-fall-for-Shepard-out-of-no-where-LI, I'd rather have that or something than nothing.

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slimgrin wrote...

I've waited long enough dammit. Come on Samara, let me embrace your eternities! Both of them.



Oh that is funny! And why not? If people are willing to struggle for it, then make it possible!

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slimgrin wrote...

I've waited long enough dammit. Come on Samara, let me embrace your eternities! Both of them.


"Embrace this!"

Modifié par Ravensword, 18 octobre 2011 - 03:14 .


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Oh no, that wasn't me who said that, that was slimgrin. Very funny line he wrote at that.

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One of my favorite things about Samara is that you can pursue her, and she rejects you no matter what. It's nice to have at least one person who isn't practically begging for Shepard to bed them.

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Rojahar wrote...

One of my favorite things about Samara is that you can pursue her, and she rejects you no matter what. It's nice to have at least one person who isn't practically begging for Shepard to bed them.


Yep. The tables have turned. It is now Shepard who has to beg Samara to bed them.

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Ravensword wrote...

Rojahar wrote...

One of my favorite things about Samara is that you can pursue her, and she rejects you no matter what. It's nice to have at least one person who isn't practically begging for Shepard to bed them.


Yep. The tables have turned. It is now Shepard who has to beg Samara to bed them.


It's good she rejects you even if you beg though. It's one of the few examples of Shepard not being God the Universe, able to shape every person and every event. Usually if you can show interest in someone, then you can successfully romance them. If you can't romance them, then you usually can't show interest. I like that Samara (and Aveline in DA2) break that rule.

Modifié par Rojahar, 18 octobre 2011 - 03:31 .


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Rojahar wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Rojahar wrote...

One of my favorite things about Samara is that you can pursue her, and she rejects you no matter what. It's nice to have at least one person who isn't practically begging for Shepard to bed them.


Yep. The tables have turned. It is now Shepard who has to beg Samara to bed them.


It's good she rejects you even if you beg though. It's one of the few examples of Shepard not being God the Universe, able to shape every person and every event. Usually if you can show interest in someone, then you can successfully romance them. If you can't romance them, then you usually can't show interest. I like that Samara (and Aveline in DA2) break that rule.


The problem with comparing Samara to Aveline though, is that with Aveline, it was one sided. Aveline doesn't take you seriously. But Samara admits that she feels a connection with Shepard.

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quoted Slimgrin

Liara is heavy on the fanservice, whereas Samara seems like the writers took a more mature approach. Plus Liara's bizarre personality shift in ME2 made no sense to me.

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Read the comic Redemtion and you will see why. I thought it was strange to at first but then i read the comic and look at her life style in ME2 and she just gone threw so much bad sh*t.  And all the guilt that weighs on her. She also say's that she is acting like this on her on free will. She could'nt be her shy awkward self with what she had to do in Redemtion and in ME2

Modifié par warlock22, 19 octobre 2011 - 08:16 .