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#176
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ThePwener wrote...

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I really like it and I'm not sure why. Helping Talitha, surviving humanitys first encounter with a thresher maw - surviving the seemingly impossible..I just love it.


It wasn't the first encounter if the whole thing was a Cerberus experiment.


From the wiki

The Alliance first encountered threshers on the colony of Akuze in 2177. After contact was lost with the pioneer team, marine units were deployed to investigate. The shore parties were set upon by hungry threshers, and nearly the entire assault force was killed.

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ThePwener wrote...

Mi-Chan wrote...

I really like it and I'm not sure why. Helping Talitha, surviving humanitys first encounter with a thresher maw - surviving the seemingly impossible..I just love it.


It wasn't the first encounter if the whole thing was a Cerberus experiment.

Actually, thinking back to what we know, we don't know how much of it was planned by Cerberus. Their experiments on Toombs may have been science of opportunity. No way to know for sure, right now, though.

I really wish that we had been able to into depth with TIM regarding Akuze. *grumble grumble*

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It wasn't the first encounter because it was possible that the entire event including the one leading to it was one giant Cerberus experiment.

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SandTrout wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

Mi-Chan wrote...

I really like it and I'm not sure why. Helping Talitha, surviving humanitys first encounter with a thresher maw - surviving the seemingly impossible..I just love it.


It wasn't the first encounter if the whole thing was a Cerberus experiment.

Actually, thinking back to what we know, we don't know how much of it was planned by Cerberus. Their experiments on Toombs may have been science of opportunity. No way to know for sure, right now, though.

I really wish that we had been able to into depth with TIM regarding Akuze. *grumble grumble*


Big missed opportunity there. If they did I would have more reason to create the 100% anti-Cerberus Shepard I've considered doing...

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Always preferred Colonist/War Hero, every heros got a little tragedy in their lives.

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ThePwener wrote...

It wasn't the first encounter because it was possible that the entire event including the one leading to it was one giant Cerberus experiment.

While I cannot say with certainty that Cerberus did not plan Akuze, that doesn't mean that you can say with certainty that they did. Based on the provided Codex entry, it is possible that:

1) The expeditionary team was a Cerberus cell and intentionall cut off contact in order to observe the destructive power of the Thresher Maws.

2) A Cerberus Team was sent parallel to the marines in order to collect data on whatever cause the expeditionary team to disappear

3) Cerberus was there before the expeditionar team and set up everything.

We don't know for certain.

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ThePwener wrote...

It wasn't the first encounter because it was possible that the entire event including the one leading to it was one giant Cerberus experiment.


Well, too bad that Cerberus keeps secrets, and encrypts data then.

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They should have written the Spacer background blurb differently. As it reads now, it's essentially saying "this is the most boring, unremarkable Shepard in every way. Nothing interesting happened for 18 years and then you joined the Navy."


Frankly that kind of background has a certain appeal to me. The most important events in Shepard's life should happen during the games, not before. I kind of like the idea of a normal every man who, while decorated, wasn't necessarily ever destined to be a hero until that fateful mission to Eden Prime.


In any case, I went with Earthborn/Ruthless. I prefer both backgrounds over the others because they offer enough drama for Shepard to grow as a person without becoming melodramatic. Colonist just irritates me for the interactions with that other survivor and Spacer is just a little too out of the blue. That said, I do like that it leaves one of Shepard's parents around. I'm fine with them being a mystery though. It leaves Shepard free to find his own place in the galaxy without any baggage to hold him down.

I find Ruthless makes the most sense as a prerequisate for Spectre status. Above anything else Spectres must get the job done. Always. There can be no exceptions. Ruthless does exactly that.

When failure is not an option the military always comes to you first.

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If Earthborn involved a real life gang like the Bloods,Crips or MS-13 then I'd create a Shepard with that background asap.

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My Paragon file is Spacer/War Hero and my Renegade file is Earth Born/Ruthless. Both have unique boosts and their respected background stories are each pretty cool.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Colonist just irritates me for the interactions with that other survivor and Spacer is just a little too out of the blue.

When failure is not an option the military always comes to you first.


Yeah, irritating in ME1, but for me rather satisfying with the poor woman surviving such horrible horrors.



i seem to find the Colonial as being rather grounded and pragmatic, me-self.

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If Earthborn involved a real life gang like the Bloods,Crips or MS-13 then I'd create a Shepard with that background asap.


I was hoping the Reds would play a larger role in ME2. It would have been nice we got them as one of the main merc/gang factions we fought in the game. That or have them as a subdivision as one of the organizations, involved in a few missions.

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Earthborn/Sole Survivor for me.

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SandTrout wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

Mi-Chan wrote...

I really like it and I'm not sure why. Helping Talitha, surviving humanitys first encounter with a thresher maw - surviving the seemingly impossible..I just love it.


It wasn't the first encounter if the whole thing was a Cerberus experiment.

Actually, thinking back to what we know, we don't know how much of it was planned by Cerberus. Their experiments on Toombs may have been science of opportunity. No way to know for sure, right now, though.

I really wish that we had been able to into depth with TIM regarding Akuze. *grumble grumble*


The Alliance may have been collaborating seeing as Dr. Wayne was an Alliance scientist and the experiment occurred before the Cerberus/Alliance split.

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Actually, I wonder if the Colonist background will be brought up in Shepard's trial. You know, history with batarian slavers and all.


Interestingly enough, both the war Here and colonist backgrouds deal with Batarians to some extent. Sole Survivor doesn't though, since there the threat is closer to home.

War Hero deals with batarians too? Wow, makes me want to go for a Colonist/War Hero now. xD Shepard must really hate batarians then. And it would make Arrival a lot more controversial.


Only marginally. Elysium was attacked by Batarian funded pirates, not purely Batarians. Elanos Haliat who led the attack wasn't a batarian (he was meant to be a Turian but uses a human model in-game). So as well as batarians there likely would have been a large amount of turians, krogan, asari etc.

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I don't like the Ruthless profile because good officers do not get large numbers of their men killed.


An officer who is willing to suffer casualties is far better than one who can't do what it takes. What is the point of soldiers if you aren't willing to risk their lives?

Think about it: Ruthless Shepard's victory at Torfan was a turning point. The extermination of the slaver army sent a strong message that the Alliance would not tolerate attacks on its colonies. Conceding defeat, the Batarians withdrew from Council space. An era of peace followed in which humanity was able to expand with relative freedom. If Shepard withdrew because of too many losses the slavers would have just regrouped and continued their raids. In the long run, Torfan saved many human lives.

IMO, repelling the raid on Elysium is a much smaller contribution. Impressive, certainly, but it was just one battle in an entire war. The sole survivor is even less impressive, in fact making no useful contribution. An officer who loses their unit to wildlife should suffer shame, not be awarded honours.

Modifié par ddv.rsa, 14 août 2011 - 01:43 .


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I always play Colonist/Ruthless. It makes for a good tragedy tale. Despite the fact that my pre-service/psych profile gives Renegade bonuses, I usually play Paragade.

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First few Shepards I did were all colonist/sole survivor.
But eventually I became disenchanted with how miserable that combination is (with the one upside being "I remember me"), so now I prefer Earthborn/Colonist & War Hero.

I've never remotely been interested in playing Ruthless, or having Spacer as a background.

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ddv.rsa wrote...

TheKillerAngel wrote...

I don't like the Ruthless profile because good officers do not get large numbers of their men killed.


IMO, repelling the raid on Elysium is a much smaller contribution. Impressive, certainly, but it was just one battle in an entire war. The sole survivor is even less impressive, in fact making no useful contribution. An officer who loses their unit to wildlife should suffer shame, not be awarded honours.


It's not shameful when the wildlife is 100x more deadly than a few bands of batarian funded pirates. Also where is it said that Shepard was the officer at Akuze?

Modifié par Bad King, 14 août 2011 - 03:23 .


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Bad King wrote...

It's not shameful when the wildlife is 100x more deadly than a few bands of batarian funded pirates.


You could not be more wrong. So mass slavery and rape across the galaxy is less dangerous then a few giant snakes? Great logic.

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ThePwener wrote...

Bad King wrote...

It's not shameful when the wildlife is 100x more deadly than a few bands of batarian funded pirates.


You could not be more wrong. So mass slavery and rape across the galaxy is less dangerous then a few giant snakes? Great logic.


How do you know that these rapists and slavers are at all competent in battle? Pressly says that despite their numbers, the pirates at Elysium were massacred due to their lack of organisation and skill.

And Thresher Maws are giant snakes? LOL.

BTW the Thresher Maws destroyed an entire colony, so yes they're very deadly.

Modifié par Bad King, 14 août 2011 - 03:30 .


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Earthborn/ Sole Survivor.

I only pick Earth born because well............. I am in Earth (duh) and Sole Survivor because it's quite tragic.

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Colonist/Sole Survivor. Mostly for getting "I Remember Me" and the line "only who can protect the galaxy" without the Ruthless background. The Cerberus conection would have been interesting in ME2 hadn´t they decide to ignore it (save for a line in LotSB).

The idea I got of Thresser Maws is the Sandworm from Dune but not so mobile. And it takes tanks or Krogan to take them down, so they are rather dangerous when there´s only one. Akuze seemed to involve several.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 14 août 2011 - 03:38 .


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Bad King wrote...
Also where is it said that Shepard was the officer at Akuze?


Shepard would have been a newly commissioned officer at the time, and if I recall correctly 50 marines died on Akuze. That's one or two platoons, depending on how they're organised. As a lieutenant Shep would have been in command of a platoon.

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I liked earth born / sole survivor because the idea that a paragon shepard could come out of that terrible life really appeals to me. Like their souls have been through hell and have been forged unbreakable.