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[csfteeeer]

Sparrow Hawke wrote...

csfteeeer wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
And as for Sci-Fi RPG is overdone?
Name me some we see today, but also set in space( Fallout then doesn't count).

Star Ocean, Xenosaga 1-3, FFVIII(certain sections of it), Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, KOTOR, KOTOR 2, etc.

Star Wars is Fantasy

Right, not Sci-Fi or set in space at all then?

Excuse me.... huh, elaborate a bit here, English is not my native language, so please explain your phrase.

Note: if what you're trying to say is that it's Sci-Fi, it's not, It's Fantasy.

[Druss99]

DuckSoup wrote...

Resident Evil had zombies which should have also made it automatic win, but the only decent game was the first, so it fails.

Your opinion differs from mine and I won't stand for it. Prepare for war!

I loved Resident Evil while it was survival horror. Its spin-offs were alot less impressive though and RE5 was kinda terrible, it wasn't close to being survival horror. I wish Capcom would just concentrate on doing one great survival horror RE game instead of starting one then thinking about "What spin offs, directors cuts or MP add-ons can we make from this?"

[Seeker Sparrow]

csfteeeer wrote...

Excuse me.... huh, elaborate a bit here, English is not my native language, so please explain your phrase.

Note: if what you're trying to say is that it's Sci-Fi, it's not, It's Fantasy.

What I said was clear as day, and if you're telling me Star Wars has no Sci-Fi elements whatsoever...then I don't know what to say really.

[stewie1974]

Sparrow Hawke wrote...

csfteeeer wrote...

Excuse me.... huh, elaborate a bit here, English is not my native language, so please explain your phrase.

Note: if what you're trying to say is that it's Sci-Fi, it's not, It's Fantasy.

What I said was clear as day, and if you're telling me Star Wars has no Sci-Fi elements whatsoever...then I don't know what to say really.

It has no sci-fi elements because the science is never explained or plot centric.

Blade Runner the andriods are explained as is the technology for detecting them as is their motivation i.e their incept dates... it all goes to the plot

Star Wars ... the movies the science isn't explained a lightsaber is basically a magic sword and the force is basically magic... it's not -pure - fantasy nor is it sci-fi.. it's sci-fantasy.

[csfteeeer]

Sparrow Hawke wrote...

csfteeeer wrote...

Excuse me.... huh, elaborate a bit here, English is not my native lenguage, so please explain your phrase.

Note: if what you're trying to say is that it's Sci-Fi, it's not, It's Fantasy.

What I said was clear as day, and if you're telling me Star Wars has no Sci-Fi elements whatsoever...then I don't know what to say really.

No it wasn't, if it was clear i wouldn't have asked for you to clarify.
As i said, English is NOT my native lenguage.

Funny you skipped that part.

And second of all, i didn't say it didn't have Sci-Fi elements, i said it was Fantasy, and it is.

Modifié par csfteeeer, 16 août 2011 - 03:03 .

[xkg]

Star Wars is Science Fiction Fantasy and is tagged such on many sites
For example on IMDB - with Science-Fiction tag and Fantasy tag.

[csfteeeer]

stewie1974 wrote...

Sparrow Hawke wrote...

csfteeeer wrote...

Excuse me.... huh, elaborate a bit here, English is not my native language, so please explain your phrase.

Note: if what you're trying to say is that it's Sci-Fi, it's not, It's Fantasy.

What I said was clear as day, and if you're telling me Star Wars has no Sci-Fi elements whatsoever...then I don't know what to say really.

It has no sci-fi elements because the science is never explained or plot centric.

Blade Runner the andriods are explained as is the technology for detecting them as is their motivation i.e their incept dates... it all goes to the plot

Star Wars ... the movies the science isn't explained a lightsaber is basically a magic sword and the force is basically magic... it's not -pure - fantasy nor is it sci-fi.. it's sci-fantasy.

 Exactly.

[Seeker Sparrow]

csfteeeer wrote...

stewie1974 wrote...

It has no sci-fi elements because the science is never explained or plot centric.

Blade Runner the andriods are explained as is the technology for detecting them as is their motivation i.e their incept dates... it all goes to the plot

Star Wars ... the movies the science isn't explained a lightsaber is basically a magic sword and the force is basically magic... it's not -pure - fantasy nor is it sci-fi.. it's sci-fantasy.

Exactly.

Oh okay but Star Wars still isn't set in space and doesn't contain elements that remotely resemble Sci-Fi then?

[Nameless one7]

Call of Duty.

[csfteeeer]

Sparrow Hawke wrote...

csfteeeer wrote...

stewie1974 wrote...

It has no sci-fi elements because the science is never explained or plot centric.

Blade Runner the andriods are explained as is the technology for detecting them as is their motivation i.e their incept dates... it all goes to the plot

Star Wars ... the movies the science isn't explained a lightsaber is basically a magic sword and the force is basically magic... it's not -pure - fantasy nor is it sci-fi.. it's sci-fantasy.

Exactly.

Oh okay but Star Wars still isn't set in space and doesn't contain elements that remotely resemble Sci-Fi then?

Yes, it does, but those are elements that simply hide the overall picture, and that is, that Star Wars is Fantasy.
like Stewie explained, sci fi is mostly characterzed by explanation and exposition for the meaning of things, but this isn't the case in Star Wars, where everything is this hole Magical thing, and hell, even more sutil details such as Knights or Princess, which aren't found in Sci Fis.

Something doesn't necessarily mean another thing, this is like Saying that Portal is a First Person Shooter because you're playing in First Person and you have a huge....Thing that calls itself "Gun" and has a hole on the other end, but we all that's not true.

[Dragoonlordz]

csfteeeer wrote...

Sparrow Hawke wrote...

csfteeeer wrote...

Alistairlover94 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
And as for Sci-Fi RPG is overdone?
Name me some we see today, but also set in space( Fallout then doesn't count).

Star Ocean, Xenosaga 1-3, FFVIII(certain sections of it), Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, KOTOR, KOTOR 2, etc.

Star Wars is Fantasy

Right, not Sci-Fi or set in space at all then?

Excuse me.... huh, elaborate a bit here, English is not my native language, so please explain your phrase.

Note: if what you're trying to say is that it's Sci-Fi, it's not, It's Fantasy.

It's Science Fiction aka Sci-Fi. Fantasy my arse. What part of it do you think does not involve (science) lasers, spaceships and other planets also what part of the second word (fiction) do you think also does not apply.

You can think what you want but to most people it is Science FIction and not just Fantasy.

You don't have to know how a laser works to know it's a laser same applies to all other aspects.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 16 août 2011 - 03:30 .

[xkg]

Actually Star Wars franchise has largest amount of schematics/graphs/starship intersections/data/lore/... available, about literally everything you can possibly imagine .


"lightsaber is basically a magic sword"
yeah sure  http://images2.wikia...ber-cutaway.jpg

Not any magic - just a SCIence in a FIctional way

Modifié par xkg, 16 août 2011 - 03:45 .

[Dragoonlordz]

xkg wrote...


Actually Star Wars franchise has largest amount of shcematics/graphs/starship intersections/data/lore/... available, about lireally everything you can possible imagine .


"lightsaber is basically a magic sword"
yeah sure  http://images2.wikia...ber-cutaway.jpg

Not any magic - just a SCIence in a FICTIONal way

lol beat me to it was just about to say...

If they had to explain everything to you (of which many forums/fan groups etc have listed many explanations for such technology) then it becomes a documentary.  Lasers exist today but not advanced enough to recreate the exact style in film (maybe) just like planets do exist and astrology is a science, same applies to spaceships though best we have a mere space station limited one and probes and shuttles which just makes in film more advanced theoretically.

I have seen many sites and groups explaining the theoretical science behind most of things in Star Wars same as does in Star Trek.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 16 août 2011 - 03:46 .

[Blastback]

ipgd wrote...

I can't think of any game series that are actually detrimental to the world by existing. There are plenty of games I dislike, but I dunno why I'd want to ruin the fun of whomever did enjoy them just because I didn't.

Ditto.

[Thane64]

Dead Space <_<

Modifié par Thane64, 16 août 2011 - 03:56 .

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

sp0ck 06 wrote...

Warheadz wrote...

Mesina, don't be a blind fanboy >.>

ME and ME2 weren't just terrible games, they had the biggest negative impacts
on the gaming industry. The gaming world today would be a much better
place if these games were never made. Every time one of
these games gets purchased, or a fanboy praises about their false
greatness, the industry dies a little bit more. There's nothing we can
do to keep games like these from coming out, except not anticipate them.
There's nothing we can do to keep their popularity down except by
smartening up, and not appreciating a bad game. That's all these games
are, bad games. That was a modest statement. Every game in the Mass Effect series was a mistake. A mistake and an
abomination. As a gamer, or a newcomer to gaming, do your duty, and
don't support these mediocre heaps of garbage. Games don't get worse
than these.

lol, umadbro?  Not seeing much "reason or logic" in your criticisms there.  

0/10 troll

I'm with Spock on this.
Completely bashing a game and then refusing to list any reasons or refusing to listen to any counter-arguements by looking down on those who try sounds like trolling.

[csfteeeer]

xkg wrote...


Actually Star Wars franchise has largest amount of schematics/graphs/starship intersections/data/lore/... available, about literally everything you can possibly imagine .


"lightsaber is basically a magic sword"
yeah sure  http://images2.wikia...ber-cutaway.jpg

Not any magic - just a SCIence in a FIctional way

You haven't seen the Clone Wars series have you?(not the CGI, the one with Drawn Animation).

And BTW, explain me Scientifically where does "The Force" Comes from and how it works.

Modifié par csfteeeer, 16 août 2011 - 04:17 .

[Chromie]

DuckSoup wrote...

Andarthiel_Demigod wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

The Witcher

You just don't say things like that on an RPG dominated forum.
What is your beef with the Witcher? Have you played the second one? It was a a fantastic title.

Yet I got away with saying Dragon Age? *scratches head*

Only because I said it first.

Mesina2 wrote...

In most of them there aren't any choices
for story, no character interaction and you can't create your own
character( Mass Effect, Dragon Age) or build already one we have( Deus
Ex, Alpha Protocol).

Ok but why is a jrpg not an rpg or a subgenre?

An rpg is where you roleplay a character either through leveling or with choice and consequences.

Modifié par Ringo12, 16 août 2011 - 04:16 .

[xkg]

csfteeeer wrote...

xkg wrote...


Actually Star Wars franchise has largest amount of schematics/graphs/starship intersections/data/lore/... available, about literally everything you can possibly imagine .


"lightsaber is basically a magic sword"
yeah sure  http://images2.wikia...ber-cutaway.jpg

Not any magic - just a SCIence in a FIctional way

You haven't seen the Clone Wars series have you?(not the CGI, the one with Drawn Animation).

Yes I did. But i thought we are talking about the entire Star Wars universe/Franchise.
And as I said it has more Sci-Fi elements than most of the Sci-Fi movies/games/books/...

For example - when it comes to lore, technology explained,science fiction elements - Mass Effect can't even compare. Show me some in-deep schematics or explanations of technology in ME (ships/weapons/armors,or whatever have you).

What about Biotic Powers ?
"The term biotics[/b] refers to the ability for some lifeforms to create mass effect fields using Element Zero nodules embedded in body tissues" http://masseffect.wi...om/wiki/Biotics
How far is this from Star Wars' force powers ?

And yet Mass effect is tagged as Science-Fiction game.

[CroGamer002]

Ringo12 wrote...

Ok but why is a jrpg not an rpg or a subgenre?

An rpg is where you roleplay a character either through leveling or with choice and consequences.

JRPG is NOT a subgenre.


JRPG's are just Japanese style games with lot of stats, loot and equipment that may or may not have role playing.


Not a genre.