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[Bryy_Miller]

Dubya75 wrote...

Zanallen wrote...

Dubya75 wrote...

If CDPR can do it - they are soon releasing an overhaul to TW2 - why can'y BioWare do the same with the hugely criticized DA2? 
CDRP  seem to recognise the loyalty of their customers who buy their games in good faith (because let's face it, it's a gamble) and they also seem to be committed to providing a quality product, and if the product is not quality, then they fix it.
If there is one game that deserves this same treatment, it is DA2.

So why is BioWare refusing to do the right thing?

It isn't that simple. Dragon Age 2 is a cross platform game. A simple patch wouldn't be enough to fix the game and a large patch couldn't be distributed on console. So, they would have to put the patch on a disc and then would need to find some way to distribute the disc to everyone who bought the game for consoles. The cost of such a thing would be ridiculous and it would reap no profits. Sure, it would give Bioware some good will, but the logistics are just not workable.

Really? Then how does that small Polish company manage to make it workable?

CDP isn't really that little.

[Aradace]

Zanallen wrote...


It isn't that simple. Dragon Age 2 is a cross platform game.

So is The Witcher 2 now technically.  Xbox 360 is getting TW2 in November.

[Atakuma]

Aradace wrote...

Zanallen wrote...


It isn't that simple. Dragon Age 2 is a cross platform game.

So is The Witcher 2 now technically.  Xbox 360 is getting TW2 in November.

Yes, and will likely already have all the changes out of the box, so it's not the same thing.

Modifié par Atakuma, 15 août 2011 - 04:59 .

[Aradace]

Atakuma wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Zanallen wrote...


It isn't that simple. Dragon Age 2 is a cross platform game.

So is The Witcher 2 now technically.  Xbox 360 is getting TW2 in November.

Yes and will likely already have all the changes out of the box, so it's not the same thing.

True I suppose

[Bryy_Miller]

CD Projekt is the Hipster Kid of the Gaming Industry. They mean well, but their "f*** the man" attitude is annoying and mostly just for show.

[Ariella]

Aradace wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Zanallen wrote...


It isn't that simple. Dragon Age 2 is a cross platform game.

So is The Witcher 2 now technically.  Xbox 360 is getting TW2 in November.

Yes and will likely already have all the changes out of the box, so it's not the same thing.

True I suppose

Yeah, which means they won't have to worry about the authetication until their second title update DLC release...

They're not releasing for Sony? That's surprising...

[dheer]

Ariella wrote...
I'm wondering what else people want?

Well, I can tell you what I want patched in. An isometric / tactical / unlocked camera. Not having to fight with the damn third person locked camera when trying to play the game would be a hell of an improvement.

Modifié par dheer, 15 août 2011 - 05:18 .

[Aradace]

Ariella wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Zanallen wrote...


It isn't that simple. Dragon Age 2 is a cross platform game.

So is The Witcher 2 now technically.  Xbox 360 is getting TW2 in November.

Yes and will likely already have all the changes out of the box, so it's not the same thing.

True I suppose

Yeah, which means they won't have to worry about the authetication until their second title update DLC release...

They're not releasing for Sony? That's surprising...

They're "on the fence" about releasing it for Sony apparently.  Xbox 360 is the only certainty so far. 

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Because a patch can't fix what's wrong with DA2, I think. A patch will not fix a poorly executed plot, lack of cohesion and coherence, or add the needed character and NPC development arcs that this game lacks. Nor will it be able to add choices or gameplay paths that matter. And a patch can't fix the numerous immersion issues.

The best that I can hope for is an expansion that gives me the impression and hope that the mistakes and fails of DA2 have been noted, and that Bioware is changing from where it was going with the series in DA2. A well written, well developed expansion or DLC would not fix the game, but it would restore my faith in the franchise alot.

At this point, I've accepted DA2 is what it is, and all my annoyance and disappointment with how the game turned out won't change anything. I can only hope that Bioware has taken notice of the ire and fan rage, and will take their numerous complaints into consideration when they start development for an expansion and DA3.

[csfteeeer]

Ariella wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

This is just another PR stunt from CDPR. There is nothing wrong with TW2 to require an overhaul of any kind.

Actually, for the English version at least they have to fix the lip synch, which was terrible, and the controls need work too.

the Lip Sync is fine, is the Animations that are Horrible(one of the very few horrible things about the witcher 2)

[In Exile]

ipgd wrote...
Let's face it -- even if some sort of mythical unicorn patch were pushed through by divine intervention, you would turn to complaining about how long it took to release and that Bioware was incompetent for selling you a "paid alpha test". You want to hate the game, so just grab your dick and enjoy yourself instead of pretending otherwise.

LOL. You're a champ. To paraphrase Cmdr Shepard:

"My name is InExile, and this is my favourite post on BSN"

[In Exile]

Atakuma wrote...
Yes, and will likely already have all the changes out of the box, so it's not the same thing.

Speaking of a paid alpha for a game that was redesigned primarily for consoles.... 

[syllogi]

If I had to choose between an overhaul for DA2 that may or may not address any concerns I had about quality and/or content, or more attention given to future DA projects, I would choose the latter with no hesitation.

BUT, it ain't my choice. So I'll just hope that the DA team is working hard on future releases, and have taken our feedback into account.

[happy_daiz]

Aradace wrote...

Zanallen wrote...


It isn't that simple. Dragon Age 2 is a cross platform game.

So is The Witcher 2 now technically.  Xbox 360 is getting TW2 in November.

Where did you hear November? Did something change?

According to IGN, and everything else I've seen, The Witcher 2 was pushed back to Q1 of 2012 for XBox 360.

Edit: Ahh yes, it was moved to 2012. Here's the story.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 15 août 2011 - 06:47 .

[happy_daiz]

dheer wrote...

Well, I can tell you what I want patched in. An isometric / tactical / unlocked camera. Not having to fight with the damn third person locked camera when trying to play the game would be a hell of an improvement.

I've wondered why that was removed from the PC version. We have something along that line on 360, and frankly, I have no idea how you could play without it.

[Xewaka]

happy_daiz wrote...

dheer wrote...
Well, I can tell you what I want patched in. An isometric / tactical / unlocked camera. Not having to fight with the damn third person locked camera when trying to play the game would be a hell of an improvement.

I've wondered why that was removed from the PC version. We have something along that line on 360, and frankly, I have no idea how you could play without it.

Short answer: We really can't.
Now excuse while I wait for ipgd to come and tell me that the skills you'll be using don't need to be aimed.

[Aradace]

happy_daiz wrote...

dheer wrote...

Well, I can tell you what I want patched in. An isometric / tactical / unlocked camera. Not having to fight with the damn third person locked camera when trying to play the game would be a hell of an improvement.

I've wondered why that was removed from the PC version. We have something along that line on 360, and frankly, I have no idea how you could play without it.

It's easy, it's called keeping your head on a swivel lol.  Seriously though, isometric camera is nice and all, but I never used it even in Origins because I personally didnt need it.  I guess they saw it as a luxury and not something that was needed in game?

[TheAwesomologist]

Patches are one thing. DA2 has been patched a couple of times now, my only complaint here would be that the early fix for the game crippling speed bug with Isabella never came soon enough and I had to resort to the mod community to get it fixed. So response time for some things should perhaps be looked into.

Game overhaul? It's one thing to be disappointed that DA2 wasn't Origins 2, but there's no magic overhaul pack thats going to fix that. Now could they do something where they revamp and rebalance combat so that it isn't just waves of ninjas and playing whack-a-mole? Yes, but sadly it's called DLC (Legacy did a good job here of making combat in waves work).

If Bioware wanted to spend time/money on DLC or expansion that also changes the core campaign I would say they only need to fix Act 3 so that it makes sense. That would mean more dialog (or changed dialog), a story rewrite, and then the DLC/Expansion would hopefully give us Act 4 so we can all feel good about the only decision we made in the game that kinda sorta mattered.

[Ariella]

csfteeeer wrote...

Ariella wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

This is just another PR stunt from CDPR. There is nothing wrong with TW2 to require an overhaul of any kind.

Actually, for the English version at least they have to fix the lip synch, which was terrible, and the controls need work too.

the Lip Sync is fine, is the Animations that are Horrible(one of the very few horrible things about the witcher 2)

The lip synch is fine? The lip sych in Advent Children's English edition was better, and it sucked. The lip flaps are in no way in sync with the voice overs, and it's really obvious from the word go.

[Krusty84]

Ariella wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Ariella wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

This is just another PR stunt from CDPR. There is nothing wrong with TW2 to require an overhaul of any kind.

Actually, for the English version at least they have to fix the lip synch, which was terrible, and the controls need work too.

Sure but that's not an overhaul, it's just another patch.

 No potions while in combat? 

Yes because that was fans(european) demand.
...
And the version 2.0 is mostly new quests(major free dlc like something between Legacy and Awakening) some ui and difficulty improvments and maybe new cgi by Bagiński. Release Date: September, source: parkiet.com.

Modifié par Krusty84, 15 août 2011 - 08:52 .

[Maverick827]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...

A patch will not fix a poorly executed plot, lack of cohesion and coherence, or add the needed character and NPC development arcs that this game lacks. Nor will it be able to add choices or gameplay paths that matter. And a patch can't fix the numerous immersion issues.

And a patch can't fix all of the terrible voice acting in TW2, nor can it overhaul the game engine to fix the unresponsive controls.  No patch to the game can fix CDP's philosophy that an unnecessarily complex user interface is a mainstay of RPGs.

See?  I can do it, too.

[Ariella]

Krusty84 wrote...

Ariella wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Ariella wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

This is just another PR stunt from CDPR. There is nothing wrong with TW2 to require an overhaul of any kind.

Actually, for the English version at least they have to fix the lip synch, which was terrible, and the controls need work too.

Sure but that's not an overhaul, it's just another patch.

 No potions while in combat? 

Yes because that was fans(european) demand.
...
And the version 2.0 is mostly new quests(major free dlc like something between Legacy and Awakening) some ui and difficulty improvments and maybe new cgi by Bagiński. Release Date: September, source: parkiet.pl.

Hey, potions in combat is as old as RPGs in general, darnit! But the UI and difficulty improvements are needed. I'm hoping that the UI improvements allow for more mouse use, as that's my primary gaming imput, period. It makes things a lot easier to control movement with wasd then use the mouse for targetting/special attacks and the like. Which is why I like the UI for DA. The only thing I'd add is allow for one more hotbar on the screen for PC versions.

[Krusty84]

Ariella wrote...

Krusty84 wrote...

Ariella wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Ariella wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

This is just another PR stunt from CDPR. There is nothing wrong with TW2 to require an overhaul of any kind.

Actually, for the English version at least they have to fix the lip synch, which was terrible, and the controls need work too.

Sure but that's not an overhaul, it's just another patch.

 No potions while in combat? 

Yes because that was fans(european) demand.
...
And the version 2.0 is mostly new quests(major free dlc like something between Legacy and Awakening) some ui and difficulty improvments and maybe new cgi by Bagiński. Release Date: September, source: parkiet.pl.

Hey, potions in combat is as old as RPGs in general, darnit!

But against Witcher books.
http://youtu.be/55cxa453u5s?t=1m8s

[Gotholhorakh]

happy_daiz wrote...

dheer wrote...

Well, I can tell you what I want patched in. An isometric / tactical / unlocked camera. Not having to fight with the damn third person locked camera when trying to play the game would be a hell of an improvement.

I've wondered why that was removed from the PC version. We have something along that line on 360, and frankly, I have no idea how you could play without it.

By continuously rotating the camera during combat or even moving your player to be able to see around stuff, then momentarily forgetting to keep spinning the camera because you accidentally got involved in the gameplay, only to be mildly surprised by 15 randomly spawned characters off He-Man who weren't there during the last 5 spins. I say mildly surprised because they then automatically die.

Then, when you've stood as much as you can, turning the game off with a sigh, until your next session of completionist masochism.

HTH

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 15 août 2011 - 09:02 .

[HTTP 404]

this thread isn't biased at all.