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[Ariella]

Krusty84 wrote...



But against Witcher books.
http://youtu.be/55cxa453u5s?t=1m8s

Okay, having read The Last Wish... there are a lot of things that work in books, that don't work in a game. If people were going to claim characterization issues or story issues needing to keep in line with Andrzej Sapkowski's vision, I'm all for it, but game play issues sometimes need circumvent such things.

Having him drink potions and metagens before combat ramps tension in the story, in a game where an encounter comes out of the blue at you... doesn't work so well.

Course I said that potion bit because darnit, I've been playing RPGs for most of my three and a half decades, and I'm not going to let somebody tell me because I like being able to drink my potions during combat I'm not old school or hard core

[Chromie]

hoorayforicecream wrote..

Are you saying TW2 sucked so badly on release that CDPR needed to completely overhaul it to please their fans?

Nope it's pretty great but no game is perfect. But in an effort to please more fans they are fixing some stuff. Care to exaggerate more? Also there will be a "huge dlc" announcement at gamescon with the 2.0 reveal. Something Bioware doesn't do for free.

Atakuma wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Zanallen wrote...


It isn't that simple. Dragon Age 2 is a cross platform game.

So is The Witcher 2 now technically.  Xbox 360 is getting TW2 in November.

Yes, and will likely already have all the changes out of the box, so it's not the same thing.

^ yup. But eventually Microsoft will do something to prevent updates or free dlc. I honestly don't see why Bioware could do something like this though. Valve does it with Team Fortress 2. The PC version and console version are completely different! If we play on PC we have the advantage of not having someone tell a studio they can't do something or release huge patches, free dlc or overhauls.

Bryy_Miller wrote...

CD Projekt is the Hipster Kid of the
Gaming Industry. They mean well, but their "f*** the man" attitude is
annoying and mostly just for show.

Better that then Bioware's "people can't handle change" or "just play on hard or nightmare" bull****.

Modifié par Ringo12, 15 août 2011 - 09:38 .

[Atakuma]

Ringo12 wrote...

hoorayforicecream wrote..

Are you saying TW2 sucked so badly on release that CDPR needed to completely overhaul it to please their fans?

Nope it's pretty great but no game is perfect. But in an effort to please more fans they are fixing some stuff. Care to exaggerate more? Also there will be a "huge dlc" announcement at gamescon with the 2.0 reveal. Something Bioware doesn't do for free.

How do you know this new DLC will be free? All their other dlc was just stuff ripped from the game anyway, so it cost them nothing to put it back in.

Modifié par Atakuma, 15 août 2011 - 09:36 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

An overhaul is not going to happen, and my problem with this game is more or less on a fundamental level (specifically the story and writing), that I doubt any overhaul, unless massive, can make me actually like the game (just make it more tolerable and enjoyable maybe).

So I'd much rather they focus on improving in the future.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 15 août 2011 - 09:47 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Ringo12 wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

CD Projekt is the Hipster Kid of the
Gaming Industry. They mean well, but their "f*** the man" attitude is
annoying and mostly just for show.

Better that then Bioware's "people can't handle change" or "just play on hard or nightmare" bull****.

Certainly much better than "too much detail is confusing" or "we need boss fights, here turn Orsino into a lunatic just cause".

[Chromie]

Atakuma wrote...
How do you know this new DLC will be free? All their other dlc was just stuff ripped from the game anyway, so it cost them nothing to put it back in.

If open the picture in a tab you can see it says "Available for free through automatic update for all new and existing users" under Witcher PC 2.0 version. I think that's enough proof.

Modifié par Ringo12, 15 août 2011 - 10:11 .

[dheer]

Gotholhorakh wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...

dheer wrote...
Well, I can tell you what I want patched in. An isometric / tactical / unlocked camera. Not having to fight with the damn third person locked camera when trying to play the game would be a hell of an improvement.

I've wondered why that was removed from the PC version. We have something along that line on 360, and frankly, I have no idea how you could play without it.

By continuously rotating the camera during combat or even moving your player to be able to see around stuff, then momentarily forgetting to keep spinning the camera because you accidentally got involved in the gameplay, only to be mildly surprised by 15 randomly spawned characters off He-Man who weren't there during the last 5 spins. I say mildly surprised because they then automatically die.

Then, when you've stood as much as you can, turning the game off with a sigh, until your next session of completionist masochism.

HTH

That sounds all too familiar.


Well played.

[Ariella]

Ringo12 wrote...
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^ yup. But eventually Microsoft will do something to prevent updates or free dlc. I honestly don't see why Bioware could do something like this though. Valve does it with Team Fortress 2. The PC version and console version are completely different! If we play on PC we have the advantage of not having someone tell a studio they can't do something or release huge patches, free dlc or overhauls.

Because Bioware is trying to be fair to the entire fanbase, not just console players or PC players (and this is starting to sound like a WoW supports "fill in the blank faction" more than it does mine.)

[nitefyre410]

Ariella wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...


^ yup. But eventually Microsoft will do something to prevent updates or free dlc. I honestly don't see why Bioware could do something like this though. Valve does it with Team Fortress 2. The PC version and console version are completely different! If we play on PC we have the advantage of not having someone tell a studio they can't do something or release huge patches, free dlc or overhauls.

Because Bioware is trying to be fair to the entire fanbase, not just console players or PC players (and this is starting to sound like a WoW supports "fill in the blank faction" more than it does mine.)

 

Its not  quite there yet they have not started  whipping out the Raider Epeen with gearscores and Achievements yet.. <_<

[Zoikster]

I don't think it's neccessary either. I'd love it if they focused on the development of DA: 3.

[Ariella]

Zoikster wrote...

I don't think it's neccessary either. I'd love it if they focused on the development of DA: 3.

Remember first thoughts conversations were  happening for DA2 when DAO came out, and they still managed to put out DLC, patches etc...


I wouldn't be surprised if Mike, Mark, David and the art lead (whom I ask to forgive me for forgetting your name at the moment) are getting together in a room, sleep deprived, with much coffee and sketching out (either literally or figuratively) ideas for DA3.

[Atmosfear3]

The thought of giving away anything for free for Activision and EA induces explosive diarrhea in all the suits.

[Bryy_Miller]

Ringo12 wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

CD Projekt is the Hipster Kid of the
Gaming Industry. They mean well, but their "f*** the man" attitude is
annoying and mostly just for show.

Better that then Bioware's "people can't handle change" or "just play on hard or nightmare" bull****.

You may want to slow down on the Knee Jerk Reactions there. I didn't say CDP was crock.

Modifié par Bryy_Miller, 16 août 2011 - 05:48 .

[addiction21]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

CD Projekt is the Hipster Kid of the
Gaming Industry. They mean well, but their "f*** the man" attitude is
annoying and mostly just for show.

Better that then Bioware's "people can't handle change" or "just play on hard or nightmare" bull****.

You may want to slow down on the Knee Jerk Reactions there. I didn't say CDP was crock.

Knee jerk? That is and has always been a twisting of words.

What was said was "there were changes made and some people did not like those changed" that is wholly different from "people dont like change"
Again that "just play on hard or nightmare" was in response to people not thinking normal difficulty was difficult enough or not liking the settings of a particular setting.

Unless I have missed some interview or some qoute from the forums that was passed off as a interview and has been passed of as a so called interviewm that has been spammed all over these forums. I could be wrong.

Modifié par addiction21, 16 août 2011 - 06:00 .

[Gibb_Shepard]

Mr.House wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

This is just another PR stunt from CDPR. There is nothing wrong with TW2 to require an overhaul of any kind.

The only thing CDPR needs to fix in TW2 is the horrbile voice acting, inventory system and unresponsive controlls.

Are you kidding? The VA in TW2 is some of the best i've heard in a videogame. Wow.

The unresponsive controls REALLY need to be fixed though, intended or not.

[Rockpopple]

I've been playing Dragon Age 2 again recently, and I'm finding even more appreciation for it than I did the first time. It's got an excellent story, great gameplay, a great look... when I look back to the initial reaction by some so-called fans... it really boggles the mind.

And what's this about CDPR giving TW2 an "overhaul"? Really? If it was that shoddy to begin with why did it go gold in the first place? DA2 got its patches so I guess there's your overhaul.

[Kothoses Rothenkisal]

If they were to do an overhaul patch I would rather it focused on adding in new caves rather than just twisting that one cave around several times.

Also I would like to see an expansion of the current questing system, the single player mmo style chase the yellow arrow from start to finish of an isolated series of fed ex quests needs to go.

That said, Biowares focus is on DLC and profitability, CD PR dont have the same overheads or the same paymasters as Bioware, also Bioware have never overhauled their games with Enhanced editions they have a reputation however for continually patching and supporting their games long after release so atleast be grateful we get that, a lot of games companies simply abandon games after release.

[Dave of Canada]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Are you kidding? The VA in TW2 is some of the best i've heard in a videogame. Wow.

Sorry, I know it's a matter of opinion, though I didn't find listening to cardboard talking to other pieces of cardboard being that entertaining in terms of the voice acting.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 16 août 2011 - 09:47 .

[CSick]

if they can make the entire games of Origins, ME, and ME2 available for download on consoles, then i don't understand why a large patch for DA2 is impossible. if they just fixed all the reused maps and made it possible to change companions' armor, i'd pay another 5 bucks to cover the cost of providing the download. i'd still feel ripped off, but my hatred for the game would be reduced exponentially.

[Dubya75]

CSick wrote...

if they can make the entire games of Origins, ME, and ME2 available for download on consoles, then i don't understand why a large patch for DA2 is impossible. if they just fixed all the reused maps and made it possible to change companions' armor, i'd pay another 5 bucks to cover the cost of providing the download. i'd still feel ripped off, but my hatred for the game would be reduced exponentially.

I was starting to think I'm the only one who thought that the main problems with the game should be addressed. It baffles me that so many people on this thread id making excuses for BioWare. They really need to get this done, do a big advertising thing (kind of like re-releasing the game) and they may find that a lot of new people will buy DA2 and it will also give them a bigger sale rate for future DLC. It is such a logical thing to do!

Modifié par Dubya75, 16 août 2011 - 09:55 .

[Dariuszp]

2.0 will be something else. It will probably be like Enchanced Edition of TW1 (not sure). And with EE we got new inventory system, loot of addons (now it's called DLC), bugfixes and upgrades (80% less loading time ?).
About lip sync. Can't said about that. Polish version (orignal) is OK. I didn't play english version but it's probably the same problem when I played Bioware games with polish voices.

Anyway. As much as I dislike DA II and want it upgraded - as someone said - it's broken game in so many aspects that it's almost imposible to fix it. You can't do anything with reused locations. You can't move all enemies behind doors just to remove ninjas etc. You can't fix silly combat animations (two handed sword mostly - it look funny). You can't make side quests interesting. You can't make main quests something that you can really shape with your actions.

So it's better to abandon DA II and focus on DA III. Util that i will finish New Vegas and start another run with Witcher 2 when 2.0 will came out.

Modifié par Dariuszp, 16 août 2011 - 09:56 .

[Icinix]

TW2 is amazing, CDProjektRed are incredible. I'll be the first to dive in singing their praises, but they are the exception in the games industry. What they do for their fans is soo far above and beyond the call of duty its not funny.

But I certainly don't expect any company to ever go to those levels, even CDProjektRed - but its certainly something which grows loyalty and is appreciated.

Regardless - DA2 doesn't need a complete overhaul, they just need to learn from it, grow from it, and get on with the Dragon Age universe. Be that with DLC, Expansions or DA3. Those that have abandoned the game, probably won't come back.

[Dubya75]

Dariuszp wrote...

2.0 will be something else. It will probably be like Enchanced Edition of TW1 (not sure). And with EE we got new inventory system, loot of addons (now it's called DLC), bugfixes and upgrades (80% less loading time ?).
About lip sync. Can't said about that. Polish version (orignal) is OK. I didn't play english version but it's probably the same problem when I played Bioware games with polish voices.

Anyway. As much as I dislike DA II and want it upgraded - as someone said - it's broken game in so many aspects that it's almost imposible to fix it. You can't do anything with reused locations. You can't move all enemies behind doors just to remove ninjas etc. You can't fix silly combat animations (two handed sword mostly - it look funny). You can't make side quests interesting. You can't make main quests something that you can really shape with your actions.

So it's better to abandon DA II and focus on DA III. Util that i will finish New Vegas and start another run with Witcher 2 when 2.0 will came out.

Errrm, no. YOU can't. BioWare CAN!

[Yrkoon]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...
Are you kidding? The VA in TW2 is some of the best i've heard in a videogame. Wow.

While I think TW2 is probably the best game I've bought since Origins, I'd have to disagree with this.  The Voice acting  (at least in the english version) was hit and miss, at best.  Some characters, Like  Dethmold and Roche,  And even Geralt at times, were amazing.  Perfect even.

But there were so many others in the game that seemed....  overacted?   Fake?   The various Dwarven voices for example, were cringingly  terrible.

And Ves's voice acting....  I'm not sure if the devs specifically wrote her to be so stoic, but her voice acting certainly is.  at times it sounded like she was reading directly  from the script.  I half expect to hear the sound of pages turning  whenenver she speaks.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 19 août 2011 - 08:39 .

[LTD]

Ariella wrote...


Actually, for the English version at least they have to fix the lip synch, which was terrible, and the controls need work too.

As a general rule of thumb, if lip synch is the most severe flaw you can think of in an RPG, then surely the game must be perfect enough.