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[GreenSoda]

breakdown71289 wrote...

TheLeetSkweet wrote...

what about assassin's creed? the first two installments were entirely single player, but people loved the AC:B multiplayer. i think the same thing would work for ME, also.

Yep.....and the reason why that is, is because they have their main studio work on the single-player game, while a sub-section of there's works on the multiplayer, meaning that nothing gets compromised as a result. Hopefully Bioware can follow suit with this if their adding multiplayer.

>nothing gets compromised as a result
>sp campaign is half the length of its predecessors

[Sesshomaru47]

TheLeetSkweet wrote...

what about assassin's creed? the first two installments were entirely single player, but people loved the AC:B multiplayer. i think the same thing would work for ME, also.

If they love it so much where are they? Oh wait you can't even get into a MP game without it crashing, on console. I think I played once when I first got the game...then I relized it sucked.

[Clonedzero]

GreenSoda wrote...

breakdown71289 wrote...

TheLeetSkweet wrote...

what about assassin's creed? the first two installments were entirely single player, but people loved the AC:B multiplayer. i think the same thing would work for ME, also.

Yep.....and the reason why that is, is because they have their main studio work on the single-player game, while a sub-section of there's works on the multiplayer, meaning that nothing gets compromised as a result. Hopefully Bioware can follow suit with this if their adding multiplayer.

>nothing gets compromised as a result
>sp campaign is half the length of its predecessors

the sp campaign as already been clocked at around the same as ME2.

[Captain_Obvious]

Sesshomaru47 wrote...

TheLeetSkweet wrote...

what about assassin's creed? the first two installments were entirely single player, but people loved the AC:B multiplayer. i think the same thing would work for ME, also.

If they love it so much where are they? Oh wait you can't even get into a MP game without it crashing, on console. I think I played once when I first got the game...then I relized it sucked.

Yeah, I never touched multiplayer on that, Uncharted 2, or Red Dead, and I loved all of those games. 

[Dragoonlordz]

didymos1120 wrote...

Ihatebadgames wrote...

If I wanted to listen to a foul mouthed 12 year old,I'd listen to Jack.If they put multi in this game I'll cancel my preorder.

Jack doesn't swear nearly as much as people like to make out. 

Just once is one time more than my Shepard will tolerate from Jack at him/her..

Also ME2 single player was way, way to short for my liking to being with it felt tiny due to premise 1 mission pick up team mate, 1 mission loyatly each then off to war few missions. I don't like ME2 in that regard how short it felt.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 15 août 2011 - 10:06 .

[SilentNukee]

Bring it on!

[LPPrince]

Sesshomaru47 wrote...

TheLeetSkweet wrote...

what about assassin's creed? the first two installments were entirely single player, but people loved the AC:B multiplayer. i think the same thing would work for ME, also.

If they love it so much where are they? Oh wait you can't even get into a MP game without it crashing, on console. I think I played once when I first got the game...then I relized it sucked.

Just wanted to comment on this-

They're there. The multiplayer of ACB is new and refreshing compared to the multiplayers of other games.

The problem with it is that matchmaking takes forever. It can take 3 minutes to get into a game(at least these days, if you don't choose the option to insta put you in a game).

Its quite fun, you just have to jump the matchmaking hurdle. I'm also AMAZED that they can pop a new Assassin's Creed game every year and have it still be absolutely amazing. On top of that, the last one had multiplayer on top of its single player and it was still INCREDIBLE.

Gah, I love the Assassin's Creed franchise. I wish every franchise could make games so good so fast.

But striking gold is rare- I'd rather Bioware keep everything single player and move on to multiplayer in a spin off title rather than entering it into the trilogy.

Hell, Deus Ex Human Revolution has no multiplayer(thank God). If they could make multiplayer work and put it into the game, would I have minded? No.

But they didn't, they played it safe, and that's a good thing. Then again, they had other reasons for no multiplayer.

I know that for Arkham City there's no multiplayer because they didn't want to compromise the single player experience. That could very well be Bioware's reasoning, if its excluded.

Wow, mentioned lots of other games here. ha.

[Dragoonlordz]

SilentNukee wrote...

Bring it on!

Oh, I'll bring it! Hope your ready for the bringing thats about to begin!

[IronSabbath88]

As long as this doesn't affect the singleplayer, I don't care.

If this makes the campaign suffer for it, BioWare will have failed miserably on what is arguably their most anticipated game ever. The last of their trilogy, and I do not think that will happen.

For all the people complaining about "foul mouthed" 12 year olds and the like, who is to say that the multiplayer won't be just co-op missions? In which case I'm sure you could easily find a group of friends to play with and not have to worry about those said people.. besides, I'm sure that crowd will be too busy playing Call of Duty MW3 and Battlefield 3 to care much about some space opus.

In other words, calm down.

[LPPrince]

Or hell, they could make it like ACB's multiplayer.

I've played a ton of games on it and not ONCE have I heard or spoken to other people.

Not saying it isn't possible, but hey, there you go.

Then again, the multiplayers are vastly different, and for the type of game ME games are, you would think vocal communication is necessary.

But I'd hope they'd find a way to figure how to keep the youngins OUT OF MAH GAME.

[Tonymac]

I see some negativity here - even assuming that MP may be true (of which I am not convinced yet).

That being said, I will log on with ANY one and assist them, curbstomping the Reapers and all who stand with them. Make no mistake - if you wanted to talk about saving the galaxy, what could be more fun than 3 teams or 3 Shepards uniting and standing as one? Stand with me Brothers and Sisters, we will be Victorious!

[IronSabbath88]

Heh, imagine if it was like Dead Rising 2 co-op and you could have a team of 4 Sheploos, all who look identical?

Man, that'd be funny as hell.

[Zkyire]

MysteryNotes wrote...

Whats the big deal about multiplayer?

There WILL still be a single player mode, right?

Nobody's forcing you to play MP.

Now if they made ME3 require multiplayer to complete, then that would be a valid reason for whining.

/totallyagree

Oh there's an EXTRA mode to play the game in? Oh that's TERRIBLE guys, TERRIBLE.

[Dragoonlordz]

If it's multiplayer with competition aka against each other then expect cheating, lag switches, hacking, modded files, added files and bots. What will also happen between systems such as PS3 players and PC and 360, cross platform servers? In the end not something I'm interested in but single player desperately needs to (not) be affected by any MP if is any.

[JamieCOTC]

United_Strafes wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

Until someone flatly says, "There will be NO multiplayer in ME3," it will remain a confirmed feature.

I seriously doubt BW will allow MP to compromise the SP experience and whether that means there will be no MP or a small tacked on MP mode remains to be seen. It's already confirmed that ME3 will be about the same length as ME2, w/ more replayability.  (http://twitter.com/#...623121937838080).  Personally, if there is a MP mode, I hope it's on a separate disc.  Then I can have a decorative coaster to use while I play the game.

Ya and I highly doubt Bioware will allow Dragon Age 2 to be a recycled peice of garbage that EA rushed out for a quick money grab from loyal fans......Oh wait......

Ya more replayability kinda like what Dead Space 2 was shouting, turns out the replayability was the 2 hours anyone actually spent playing the multiplayer.....

True.  EA is the "fly in the lotion."  While BW will not allow MP to compromise the SP experience, we know from DA2 that EA will compromise anything for a quick buck.

[TheZyzyva]

 Just read all 20 pages of this... I think I earned the right to comment on it, yes?

@Clonedzero, You argue that SP and MP developement get seperate budgets and therefore do not effect one another. While I am sure that they do in fact have seperate budgets, to argue that they have no impact on one another is naive. Nothing exists in a vacum, everything has at least a potential impact on everything else. And again, while I'm sure that they recieved additional money for a MP, you can bet that it wasn't a flat addition of "MP money". That's just not how business works. There are diminshing returns on all investments. And for a game that already had a staggering production cost, assuming EA just handed BW enough money to make a fully capable MP function is hopefully naive again. I would almost gurantee you that money would have to be pulled from a SP experience to justify that kind of expenditure. That is just the business model at work. IE: A 3mil SP + a 2mil MP =/= 5mil game, most likely it's going to be less than the sum. Of course the rules are not absolute and I don't presume to "know" just how EA and BW would opperate, but since my personal oppionion on EA is quite low for doing anything other than lining their pockets with money I would assume that this is what they would do.

Also, you cannot "prove" that MP has detracted from SP anywhere, because the product made without the MP does not exist. We will never know what RE5 could have been if the MP wasn't so forced in there. The thought that is frustrating is playing a SP game that I love, seeing the flaws, and wondering if they would have gotten more attention if not for the MP. Even if the flaw was still there without MP, I wouldn't feel the same way about it because the mindset of paying for something that I do not want would not be there. Just the thought that MP detracted from the SP would be enough to lower my statisfaction. THAT is my biggest problem with it.

@everyone else, stop baiting, stop crying, start making articulate arguments.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Multiplayer on a game like ME just feels largely unnecessary,RDRs MP felt useless,instead of adding silly multiplayer to a largely SP game,you always get the feeling they should have just saved the effort and put more into the SP,MP should stay to game that had it in mind in the first place,yes I know they have wanted to do it since ME1,but if they couldn't do it early on to at least test the waters,it will be sloppy and feel like weaksauce.

3 games in is hardly the place to add an unproven,and judging b the uproar (bsn is only a small portion of customers yes) unwanted feature,I would rather have a new area to explore and a few more assignments.

[TheZyzyva]

JamieCOTC wrote...


True.  EA is the "fly in the lotion."  While BW will not allow MP to compromise the SP experience, we know from DA2 that EA will compromise anything for a quick buck.

My thoughts exactly. EA can't leave well enough alone, and it's so frustrating.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

TheZyzyva wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...


True.  EA is the "fly in the lotion."  While BW will not allow MP to compromise the SP experience, we know from DA2 that EA will compromise anything for a quick buck.

My thoughts exactly. EA can't leave well enough alone, and it's so frustrating.

They are releasing enough MP juggernauts,they don't need to dip their hands into our pure SP experience.


And BBW has a point,they have always wanted to put in MP.

But I would like to hope they aren't so dense to put in an untested mp system into the series this late.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 15 août 2011 - 10:51 .

[TheZyzyva]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

TheZyzyva wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...


True.  EA is the "fly in the lotion."  While BW will not allow MP to compromise the SP experience, we know from DA2 that EA will compromise anything for a quick buck.

My thoughts exactly. EA can't leave well enough alone, and it's so frustrating.

Or it could be Bioware.

Could be. But I have confidence in BW, and more importantly, repsect for them. EA has neither from me, so I will assume, rightly or wrongly, that EA is the one at fault. They are BW's boss after all.

[Digifi]

@TheZ: That was a reasonable and thoughtful post...I am suspicious

I'll throw it out there that I'm not a fan of adding MP but I won't be bent if it is horde or co-op outside of campaign. What would worry me is any sort of versus modes or during campaign co-op. Mostly this is due to a feeling on my part that the SP powers aren't very balanced for versus and the difficulty increase necessary for two humans in a campaign level might not come off too well unless there was a lot of mob tweaking. I'm thinking of powers like AR where time dilation across multiple clients would be nightmarish.

[spikoro5698]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

I hope that if MP is confirmed, we get a horde mode or something.

troll, we all know the only reason you typed that was to get a reaction, that or your a COD noob who thinks multiplayer and co-op are the greatest inventions to ever come to gaming...

*sigh*

Some people on these forums just aren't that smart...

[PsychoWARD23]

I'll laugh but at the same time, I would play it a TON. It has potential.


I'd still rather have it in a Mass Effect game without Shepard though, that's multiplayer-focused. 

Modifié par PsychoWARD23, 15 août 2011 - 10:57 .