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[RocketManSR2]

Ghost Lightning wrote...

So wait, Casey Hudson just lied....twice? I doubt it.

Hmmmm. Isaac is right, I guess. He never said never.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 15 août 2011 - 03:57 .

[Cancer Puppet]

IsaacShep wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

"pre-order at gamestop to get the exclusive "garrus" skin for multiplayer!"

*steals the idea for Kaidan skin*

If multi is true, I want Conrad Verner, Refund guy, and Biotic God on stilts!

[Giantdeathrobot]

 Wait for the damn official statements before whining like pups. I take the word of Priestly and Hudson before a translated magazine and Xbox World or whatever that thing is, for now at least.

[shepskisaac]

Ghost Lightning wrote...

So wait, Casey Hudson just lied....twice? I doubt it.

He never said "there will be absolutely no multiplayer of any kind in ME3". So no, he never lied. Did he dodged and smartly manouvered the questions? Maybe

[shepskisaac]

Cancer Puppet wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

"pre-order at gamestop to get the exclusive "garrus" skin for multiplayer!"

*steals the idea for Kaidan skin*

If multi is true, I want Conrad Verner, Refund guy, and Biotic God on stilts!

I just had the best idea ever. Blasto skin!!! BLASTOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! :O:O

[Naltair]

Just going to wait to see what really happens.

[Jussylein]

COGNiTiON 1 wrote...

Lady Of Darkness wrote...
Yes this is True, The Time is Over, MP is Fact, The Wall is Broken :-) all Germany Printers Reading Mass Effect have Multiplayer se Press Information, The Native Speaker waiting to Gamescom! ^^

Do you work for these magazines/websites? It seems like you are trying to generate more views, similarly to the Xbox 360 World Magazine article...

No i work for not the Websites and magazine:lol:, hmm cant Native Speaker German? I Germany Girl ^^

here The List from The Games from Press Release

Titel, Hersteller
Goldeneye 007 Reloaded, Activision
Prototype 2, Activision
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3, Activision
Galaxy Battle Arena, ArtWorks Games
Skiregion-Simulator 2012, Astragon
Landwirtschafts-Simulator Platin Edition, Astragon
Landwirtschafts-Simulator 3D, Astragon
RAGE, Bethesda
My Body Coach 2, BigBen Interactive
Cyberbike 2, BigBen Interactive
Snipers, BigBen Interactive
Creatures 4, BigBen Interactive
Diablo III, Blizzard
StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm, Blizzard
World of WarCraft: Cataclysm, Blizzard
Dragon's Dogma, Capcom
Asura's Wrath, Capcom
Resident Evil Revelations, Capcom
Street Fighter X Tekken, Capcom
Geheimakte 3, Deep Silver a division of Koch Media
Catherine, Deep Silver a division of Koch Media
Das Schwarze Auge: Satinvas Ketten, Deep Silver a division of Koch Media
Winter Stars, Deep Silver a division of Koch Media
Risen 2: Dark Waters , Deep Silver a division of Koch Media
Wer wird Millionär: Special Editions, Deep Silver a division of Koch Media
The Cursed Crusade, dtp entertainment
Awesomenauts, dtp entertainment
Memento Mori 2 dtp entertainment
Winter Sports 2012, dtp entertainment
Alarm für Cobra 11: Das Syndikat, dtp entertainment
Die neuen Abenteuer des Sherlock Holmes, dtp entertainment
Harvest Moon DS: Der Großbasar, dtp entertainment
DoDonPachi Resurrection, dtp entertainment
King of Fighters XIII, dtp entertainment
TNT Racers, dtp entertainment
WarGame: European Escalation, dtp entertainment
Haunted, dtp entertainment
FIFA 12, Electronic Arts GmbH
Star Wars - The Old Republic, Electronic Arts GmbH
The Sims Social, Electronic Arts GmbH
Mass Effect 3 mit Multiplayer Modus, Electronic Arts GmbH
Galaxy on Fire 2™ Full HD, Fishlabs
Neben Star Trek: Infinite Space, Gameforge AG
Hellbreed, Gameforge AG
Wizard101, Gameforge AG
Elsword, Gameforge AG
Jagged Alliance Online, gamigo AG
Grimlands, gamigo AG
UFO Online, gamigo AG
Pro Evolution Soccer 2012, Konami Digital Entertainment GmbH
Silent Hill Downpour, Konami Digital Entertainment GmbH
Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater 3D, Konami Digital Entertainment GmbH
NeverDead, Konami Digital Entertainment GmbH
MAGIX Music Maker MX, MAGIX AG
Kinect Star Wars, Microsoft
Kinect Disneyland Adventures, Microsoft
Dance Central 2, Microsoft
Kinect Sports Season 2, Microsoft
The Gunstringer, Microsoft
Forza Motorsport 4, Microsoft
Gears of War 3, Microsoft
Halo Combat Evolved Anniversary, Microsoft
Dark Souls, Namco Bandai
RIDGE RACER Unbounded, Namco Bandai
NARUTO SHIPPUDEN: Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations, Namco Bandai
ACE COMBAT Assault Horizon, Namco Bandai
Guild Wars 2, NCsoft
Beta of Vindictus , NEXON Europe S.á.r.l.
In The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D, Nintendo of Europe GmbH
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Mario Kart 3D, Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Firefall, Red 5 Studios, Inc.
The Lost Caves 6 - RETURN Gamescom Edition, Return Magazine
MicroVolts, Rock Hippo Productions
Brawl Busters, Rock Hippo Productions
Sonic Generations, SEGA Germany GmbH
Mario & Sonic bei den Olympischen Spielen: London 2012 , SEGA Germany GmbH
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception, Sony Computer Entertainment Deutschland
Uncharted: Golden Abyss, Sony Computer Entertainment Deutschland
Borderlands 2, Take 2 Interactive GmbH
BioShock Infinite, Take 2 Interactive GmbH
The Darkness II, Take 2 Interactive GmbH
NBA 2K12, Take 2 Interactive GmbH
WWE'12, THQ Entertainment
Darksiders II, THQ Entertainment
adidas miCoach, THQ Entertainment
Saints Row: The Third, THQ Entertainment
Metro: Last Light, THQ Entertainment
Warhammer 40.000: Space Marine, THQ Entertainment
UFC Undisputed 3 (Weltpremiere), THQ Entertainment
uDraw GameTablet, THQ Entertainment
RIFT, Trion Worlds Europe
End of Nations, Trion Worlds Europe
Anno 2070, Ubisoft GmbH
Assassin's Creed Revelation, Ubisoft GmbH
Die Siedler online, Ubisoft GmbH
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon, Ubisoft GmbH
Trackmania 2 Canyon, Ubisoft GmbH
The Settlers Online, Ubisoft GmbH
Batman Arkham City, Warner Bros
Sesamstraße- Es war einmal ein Monster, Warner Bros
Lego Harry Potter 5-7, Warner Bros
Gotham City Impostors, Warner Bros

http://www.iamgamer....rtenden-spiele/

[lazuli]

But what about time dilation?

[Dragoonlordz]

xlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...

Your still not getting me man. If the single player is already planned out and finished there's nothing more to add. They dont need the extra budget. The budget would be extended specifically FOR multiplayer.

There is always more can add to single player, thats what expansions and DLC are. With extra time they could be part of the retail game instead of nickle and dime afterwards or spending that time with gimmicks like Kinect and (rumour) of multiplayer if was a reality.

[Cancer Puppet]

You know, I don't really care one way or the other about MP, but I am getting really tired of the argument of "Money spent on multi ruins the single player game!"

Just stop already. Jeez!

Edit. They're building a game, not a house. I don't see how pouring more money into game development automatically equals more stuff.

Modifié par Cancer Puppet, 15 août 2011 - 04:00 .

[SpEcIaLRyAn]

There is no multiplayer. I don't believe it one bit and neither should any of you. I only believe what Casey Hudson says. If he hasn't said there's multiplayer then there isn't any.

[Funkcase]

Giantdeathrobot wrote...

 Wait for the damn official statements before whining like pups. I take the word of Priestly and Hudson before a translated magazine and Xbox World or whatever that thing is, for now at least.

The only problem with this is Priestly said pre-ME2 ''If you think Garrus is archangel, you will be dissapointed'' lol. He likes to toy with us! Lol.

Modifié par Funkcase, 15 août 2011 - 04:00 .

[culletron1]

littlezack wrote...

culletron1 wrote...

xlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...

People need to understand that multiplayer can be added without affecting single player. If the single player experience is finished and good, you can add multiplayer features and the single player experience will be the same. I'm seeing alot of "everything spent on multiplayer is money that could've been spent on single player" well you are seeing it the wrong way.

Its not money is being put into multiplayer instead of single player, its just BioWare is spending more money. I have no idea how much it is to make a game but for example, instead of BioWare spending 2 million on the game, their spending 3 million.

If the budget is increased they could have used the increased budget on single player

Instead of spening 2 million on single player and 1 million on multi player they could have just spent 3 million on single player.

The more likely scenario is that they planned to spend 2 millions  on single player for the start, because 2 million was enough to do all that they needed to do. Adding an extra million onto that won't change a thing.

If bioware can use $2million produce a flawless single player experience on PC, Xbox and PS3 and all reviewers and fans give it 10 out of 10 then you would be right.

However in the real world no software product is perfect.

For instance ME2 was not perfect and if they got extra budget to develop it they could have used it to

* add more exploration
* add more cutomization for the companions
* have something more interesting than the crappy loading screens
* have something more interesting than the mining mini game
* add layer of the shadow broker as part of the main game
* add overlord as part of the main game
* add a whole host of new weapons
* add high res textures for PC
* add DX11 support

or

they could have added a multplayer

There IS a trade off

[In Exile]

Veex wrote...
The Old Republic seems to be making a decent go of it, for what its worth.

Right. Forgot about that. 

[Shadesofsiknas]

MassStorm wrote...

It will be fun when by installing ME3 with Multi....a window will pop-up saying

"Origin is required for gaming please install this program"

Thats exactly what I was thinking! Multiplayer gives them the perfect excuse to make Origin mandatory for ME3.

Smells like an EA move to me.


@Chris - We both know CH didnt travel to Germany to announce multiplayer for his own safety. He will announce it from a large screen on the stage thats surrounded by riot-police. Poor Casey will be in a nuclear bunker somewhere praying the fans calm down before Dec 21 2012.

Ill be praying for him!

[xXljoshlXx]

Dragoonlordz wrote...
It obviously was not "easy" as you state after my quote because you did infact edit one of my sentences and changed it while at same time claiming I wrote it.

That statement was copied exactly  from page all i did was bold,underline and italics from page Four if you don't believe look for youself

[Kaiser Shepard]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Considering that I doubt that Mass Effect's combat system will work effectively in multiplayer...

Because Gears of War with biotics wouldn't work?

[littlezack]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

xlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...

Your still not getting me man. If the single player is already planned out and finished there's nothing more to add. They dont need the extra budget. The budget would be extended specifically FOR multiplayer.

There is always more can add to single player, thats what expansions and DLC are. With extra time they could be part of the retail game instead of nickle and dime afterwards or spending that time with gimmicks like Kinect and (rumour) of multiplayer if was a reality.

That ain't how it works.

Multiplayer costs money to implement. If it would be in, EA would have to give them extra money to produce it. If the multiplayers not in, Bioware would get the money for it. It's like if I gave you money for a trip, you told me you were going a little bit furhter and needed any extra fifty, I gave you the fifty extra, then you changed your mind about the extra distance and wanted to keep the fifty. You don't need the money anymore, why would I let you keep it?

[LilyasAvalon]

xXljoshlXx wrote...

You have proof they don't have the resources

It's common sense, even something as an anticipated as ME3 is going to have a data limit put on it

Links and Unless 100% of the people came out and said this I can believe they mean the opposite

Casey is the head developer of this project, if HE says multiplayer cannot work, multiplayer cannot work. While he has been crpytic about it, any tech expert would tell you that the ME system is just NOT designed for multiplayer. As for links, give me 5 and I can get them uploaded.

Honestly, is it THAT hard for people to just wait until they make an ME multiplayer system that was... you know, DESIGNED for multiplayer? Multiplayer needs a much bigger lore, combat and interaction system than the current Mass Effect system can currently offer, especially with the types of possibilities one could have with such a multiplayer system, eg. playing as other races.

[legion999]

Giantdeathrobot wrote...

 Wait for the damn official statements before whining like pups. I take the word of Priestly and Hudson before a translated magazine and Xbox World or whatever that thing is, for now at least.

Oh the shame this heaps on those like pups.

[MACharlie1]

Lady Of Darkness wrote...

COGNiTiON 1 wrote...

Lady Of Darkness wrote...
Yes this is True, The Time is Over, MP is Fact, The Wall is Broken :-) all Germany Printers Reading Mass Effect have Multiplayer se Press Information, The Native Speaker waiting to Gamescom! ^^

Do you work for these magazines/websites? It seems like you are trying to generate more views, similarly to the Xbox 360 World Magazine article...

No i work for not the Websites and magazine:lol:, hmm cant Native Speaker German? I Germany Girl ^^

here The List from The Games from Press Release

*snip*

Why is Mass Effect the only one that describes what mode will be shown? Everything else is just game title and publisher. I'm onto you....

[littlezack]

culletron1 wrote...

littlezack wrote...

culletron1 wrote...

xlI ReFLeX lIx wrote...

People need to understand that multiplayer can be added without affecting single player. If the single player experience is finished and good, you can add multiplayer features and the single player experience will be the same. I'm seeing alot of "everything spent on multiplayer is money that could've been spent on single player" well you are seeing it the wrong way.

Its not money is being put into multiplayer instead of single player, its just BioWare is spending more money. I have no idea how much it is to make a game but for example, instead of BioWare spending 2 million on the game, their spending 3 million.

If the budget is increased they could have used the increased budget on single player

Instead of spening 2 million on single player and 1 million on multi player they could have just spent 3 million on single player.

The more likely scenario is that they planned to spend 2 millions  on single player for the start, because 2 million was enough to do all that they needed to do. Adding an extra million onto that won't change a thing.

If bioware can use $2million produce a flawless single player experience on PC, Xbox and PS3 and all reviewers and fans give it 10 out of 10 then you would be right.

However in the real world no software product is perfect.

For instance ME2 was not perfect and if they got extra budget to develop it they could have used it to

* add more exploration
* add more cutomization for the companions
* have something more interesting than the crappy loading screens
* have something more interesting than the mining mini game
* add layer of the shadow broker as part of the main game
* add overlord as part of the main game
* add a whole host of new weapons
* add high res textures for PC
* add DX11 support

or

they could have added a multplayer

There IS a trade off

That's really not how it works, but I can see you've got kind of one track mind on this.

[In Exile]

Clonedzero wrote...
dumping extra cash into single player can only do so much. you could dump another 5 million into the ME3 development and its going to start having deminishing returns on what gets produced, since you can only do so much.

No, that's not the point. You askd why people hate multiplayer: I'm telling you why.

Even if it was at the ridiculous end of dimishing marginal returns, you still see real aggregate returns on that investment. If you hate MP but love SP, any dollar on MP is a dollar you subsidize (through your purchase) that you will never get back. 

I'm honestly fine with pure gameplay only MP (like capture the flag or whatever) because that's MP I could get into and play. And I'm fine with no MP and a pure SP game.

But I really dislike Co-Op, so I hope that isn't it.

but i dont really know. its not something im worried about. you can imagine a ton of "worst case scienarios" if you like, but even being as big of a cynic as i am, i'll remain cautiously optimistic until i have actual reasons not to be.

Eh, I don't care how it's done. I'm too invested in Shepard's story. Once Bioware removes Shepard, then whether I stay as a guaranteed pre-order or wait for reviews depends on how ME3 handles that MP content. 

[Jorina Leto]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Considering that I doubt that Mass Effect's combat system will work effectively in multiplayer...yeah, it's just a complete waste of time and money. Use that to improve something else instead.

Wouldn't be the first time Bioware "changes" combat.

*cough* *cough* Mass Effect 2 *cough* *cough* Dragon Age II *cough* *cough*

[Someone With Mass]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
Because Gears of War with biotics wouldn't work?

Not if every single power homes in automatically on every enemy.

Then people would camp like little beetches in corners as power casters and just spam Warp and Incinerate.