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[Zkyire]

Seboist wrote...

Buggirl70 wrote...

Does this really matter?

Honestly?

Actually, yes it does. My femshep wants to be with TIM but if she isn't able to produce children for him than he'll dump her for another woman who can.

"Your" femshep will act within the confines of the story.

Fanfic is not canon.

[Nhadalie]

I don't think it would be impossible for her to have a baby if she wanted to in the future, considering how advanced science and medical procedures are.


I think it's more likely that FemShep would adopt a kid than have any herself though.. There's probably going to be a lot of orphans after ME3, assuming we can save even half of humanity, and earth.

[Destroy Raiden_]

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Buggirl70 wrote...

Does this really matter?

Honestly?

Actually, yes it does. My femshep wants to be with TIM but if she isn't able to produce children for him than he'll dump her for another woman who can.

"Your" femshep will act within the confines of the story.

Fanfic is not canon.

But you can make your fan fictions cannon if you petition BW enough that lesson has been recently learned.

[shepskisaac]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

But you can make your fan fictions cannon if you petition BW enough that lesson has been recently learned.

Said a Talimancer lolololol

[Destroy Raiden_]

Red Son Rising wrote...

i think its safe to assume femshep could have children w/ liara and, if they can revive a dead spectre im guessing they could make her lady bits work again too. all the important pieces are there and [presumably] working just fine

Destroy Raiden wrote...

I figured Wilson woke up shep to kill him/her for whatever reason. My theory is he found out shep was more reaper then human and so turned SB agent and tried to kill the abomination before hand but Miranda being there that day foiled that assassination attempt and round 2 happened when shep woke up for good.

i thought the audio logs shepard opens on the way out of the lazarus facility imply that wilson was in it for the money and maybe a lil payback. "I just wish TIM would send some cash my way.." and "Perhaps now Miranda will recognize my achievements for what they are." i just assumed the shadowbroker got to him

A lousy paycheck makes you take funds from the till and steal things from your employer. A lousy check doesn't make you blow up his complex. I think Wilson was going to also sell knowledge gained from the Lproject on the black market I mean what tech company wouldn't want to be able to bring back the dead? Or reanimate tissue? He could make a killing by just selling small portions of the knowledge him getting paid by the SB for whatever was an added bonus.

[Abispa]

All you need is two years, all the top scientists, and an unlimited bank account and anything is possible. Except for a healthy Joker, it seems.

[Seboist]

Abispa wrote...

All you need is two years, all the top scientists, and an unlimited bank account and anything is possible. Except for a healthy Joker, it seems.

It always looked like Cerberus improved Joker's condition to me. In ME1 he talks about needing crutches and in the beginning of ME2 needs Shepard to help him get to the escape pod.

[arafinwe_ingalaure]

Good question, they probably didn't think about that when resurecting her. So she's probably sterile. But she still can have child with Liara :-) Or maybe she can use an egg from a donor If her eggs are dead, she could still have a functional uterus.

[_Mr vas normandy]

What is this?!

[Asenza]

Interesting topic, but I think there's no reason to believe that Shepard, male or female is infertile.

One of the logs in the beginning levels said that physical reconstruction of the subject was complete, and all that remained was to evaluate Shepard's neurological and mental functions. That means his/her insides were good to go. On top of that, the orders were to make Shepard exactly how she/he was before the explosion, and that includes all the minutiae such as ovaries and eggs and tubes and stuff.

Think about how different the game could have been.... Shepard wakes up from the dead. Finds out she/he's infertile because TIM or Miranda "forgot". Has a mental breakdown. Is unable to lead Suicide Mission. Whole team dies. Reapers win.

Ok, maybe it wouldn't go exactly like that but point is, Miranda wouldn't want to risk it, so to err on the side of caution, she would make sure that Shepard was able to do everything he/she was able to do PRIOR to the explosion, AFTER the ressurection.

Besides, this is a universe where death itself can be surmounted if one throws enough money and scientists at it. At this point its foolish to say that Shepard's eggs/sperm couldn't be replaced/restored, etc, when Shepard was ressurected from a burned, frozen corpse with all their organs and memories intact.

Modifié par Asenza, 17 août 2011 - 12:21 .

[Bugsie]

 

Wynne wrote...] Making Shepard "exactly who she was before" was very important to Cerberus, as frostajulie said--and as for Miranda, an infertile woman with a mature mindset and a secret store of compassion, I doubt she would want to deliberately inflict on another woman the pain that she herself feels at being infertile.

"If we alter her in any way, the Lazarus Project will have failed." As a scientist AND as a woman, Miranda would not leave FemShep with dead eggs; otherwise she would not interrogate you to see IF the project was a failure--she would have already considered it one, being the perfectionist that she is. FemShep, without intact eggs, would not be the same.

Besides, it's entirely possible that FemShep knew she wasn't going to want to have a baby early, what with the military career and all--likely enough that she would have her eggs removed and saved for later use; some women are already doing that now, let alone in the future when it would probably be easier, cheaper, and more common.

But for the reasons stated above, I have no doubt whatsoever that FemShep is fertile. Whether any individual Shepard wants to have a baby, that is the question.

I agree about the ‘Making Shepard "exactly who she was before"  being very important to Cerberus’ but  I don’t think we can infer that Miranda’s motives were other than what Cerberus wanted. Don’t get me wrong, I think Miranda is a compassionate individual, but I think that sort of thinking would be far from her very practical mind in this instance. 
 

Wynne wrote...]Relax, dudes. It's just for fun. Enjoy the pleasure of debate; it sharpens the mind.

Is there a whetstone big enough for BSN?
 

IsaacShep wrote...
Said a Talimancer lolololol

How this is even relevant to the topic at hand  is beyond me. 
 
You do know that not all Talimancers are idiots…
 
But you wouldn’t believe me anyway because *gasp* I’m one of them.
 
Now back to the topic at hand…

Asenza wrote...

Interesting topic, but I think there's no reason to believe that Shepard, male or female is infertile.

One of the logs in the beginning levels said that physical reconstruction of the subject was complete, and all that remained was to evaluate Shepard's neurological and mental functions. That means his/her insides were good to go. On top of that, the orders were to make Shepard exactly how she/he was before the explosion, and that includes all the minutiae such as ovaries and eggs and tubes and stuff.

Think about how different the game could have been.... Shepard wakes up from the dead. Finds out she/he's infertile because TIM or Miranda "forgot". Has a mental breakdown. Is unable to lead Suicide Mission. Whole team dies. Reapers win.

Ok, maybe it wouldn't go exactly like that but point is, Miranda wouldn't want to risk it, so to err on the side of caution, she would make sure that Shepard was able to do everything he/she was able to do PRIOR to the explosion, AFTER the ressurection.

Besides, this is a universe where death itself can be surmounted if one throws enough money and scientists at it. At this point its foolish to say that Shepard's eggs/sperm couldn't be replaced/restored, etc, when Shepard was ressurected from a burned, frozen corpse with all their organs and memories intact.

Yes it was the brief of the Lazarus project that Shepard should be able to do everything he/she was able to do PRIOR to the explosion, AFTER her resurrection. 
 
Infertility would only count for either male or female Shepard if they had issues before death.
 
And in relation to even personal canon  - I still say I don’t see how it matters in game, even if you roleplay TIM as some feudal lord choosing his fillies to procreate with and spread his  genetic awesomeness around the galaxy. It’s not as though either male Shep or female Sheps fertility is actually even spoken about (aside from the blue babies comment).

[Homebound]

i think femshep should deal with infertility the same way thane should deal with keplers syndrome. by ripping out organs from a mercenary.

[Arppis]

Radiation can make male Shepard un-fertile too. And there is a lot of that in Space. It makes me wonder how they protect themselves against it.

[TobiTobsen]

Arppis wrote...

Radiation can make male Shepard un-fertile too. And there is a lot of that in Space. It makes me wonder how they protect themselves against it.

Jockstraps... just like those things for X-Rays

[LOLandStuff]

That first time Shepard woke up was Wilson's first try to kill him/her. Alas, Miranda foiled his plans.
Anyway, I'd just go for adoption. Everyone knows that whoever spends time around Shepard turns into a real badass. No need for the kid to be blood related to take something from his mother.

[Lisa_H]

I don't see why she wouldn't be fertile. If Cerberus could bring her back from the dead, they could probably insure that her eggs were fine as well. Besides they wanted her back just as she was. I know there are people that don't care if they can have children or not, but most of my friends agree that one of the worst things they could think of was finding out that they cannot have kids. I would probably get into a depression if I found out I could not have kids, just the thought of it makes me feel sad. So finding out something like that may change a person. Fighting reapers is probably not the best time to have kids. But at least my Shep has hopes of settling down with Kaidan once the figthing is done.

[x3KittyKat]

I'd like to think femshep is. However it is much up for debate. Given Miranda's job was to bring Shepard back exactly as she was but would TIM really make her fertile. It could have comprimised the mission if she got pregnant and she also did technically die. Then again if Miranda didnt bring back Shepard fertile (assuming she was before she died) she would have failed. I guess it depends really on what the player thinks.

[wolf99000]

lets not forget we have no idea what tech femshep has inside from being her back to life or even where they got the tech from to do it my guess the reapers if I am right on where they got the tech from I would think no

I know its been said we will find out more about the implants in mass effect 3 so I am guessing this will be answered as well as others like how poison does not work on shep

the ony thing for me is Chakwas she has enough knowledge to heal your scars one think that was missing for me about me2 is shepard asking her to find out what the hell was done to her and what the implants are

[Seboist]

After reading the info about Jacob from the leaks it turns out that my theory that femshep would get dumped for being barren turned out to be true.

[ReallyRue]

Seboist wrote...

After reading the info about Jacob from the leaks it turns out that my theory that femshep would get dumped for being barren turned out to be true.

Jacob ditches Shep for being infertile?

[The dead fish]

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Franckly Op, that's your story, you decide. <_<

[Collider]

ReallyRue wrote...

Seboist wrote...

After reading the info about Jacob from the leaks it turns out that my theory that femshep would get dumped for being barren turned out to be true.

Jacob ditches Shep for being infertile?

Not exactly.

There's indication that Jacob dumps Shepard because she can't offer him a normal life.
It's probably because Shepard is a space hero and Jacob doesn't expect that he can settle down with her.

[Seboist]

ReallyRue wrote...

Seboist wrote...

After reading the info about Jacob from the leaks it turns out that my theory that femshep would get dumped for being barren turned out to be true.

Jacob ditches Shep for being infertile?

Looks like it, he knocks up another woman.

[Doofe2012]

When Shepard died, she was not actually biologically dead, where the body's cells die. She was only *clinically* dead, as can be said to the VS on Horizon. This only means that the heart and lungs ceased to function. The Collectors captured Shepard in this state of being and put her in stasis before actual cell death could occur. This is the ONLY reason why Cerberus was able to revive her as she was at all.

The cells in her body didn't die, therefore she is still fertile.