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Steelcry

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I know how to mod faces to a point, I've made a few for my teammates and they've have always worked but I've never made one for Hawke Family untill today... So I have made a face from scratch for Beth but every time I try to put it into game in the overides folder she still has preset game face >_< Am I not using the right file to overide or something? These are files I have to pick from
  • hf_bethany
  • hf_bethany_h1s1
  • hf_bethany_h1s2
  • hf_bethany_h1s3
  • hf_bethany_h2s1
  • hf_bethany_h2s2
  • hf_bethany_h2s3
  • hf_bethany_h3s1
  • hf_bethany_h3s2
  • hf_bethany_h3s3
  • hf_bethany_inf
  • hf_ibethany_h1s1
  • hf_ibethany_h1s2
  • hf_ibethany_h1s3
  • hf_ibethany_h2s1
  • hf_ibethany_h2s2
  • hf_ibethany_h2s3
  • hf_ibethany_h3s1
  • hf_ibethany_h3s2
  • hf_ibethany_h3s3
Now I've used 11 and 1; I put them  one at time in my overide folder and tryied the patch folder neither of them worked... SO I BEG YOU please tell me what I'm doing wrong...

Modifié par Steelcry, 16 août 2011 - 02:53 .


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Veritrix

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There is a second set of faces for Bethany that begins with an i. You'll need to change those as well. Learned that one while making a mod for Carver so he always has the long hair.

Edit: Let me clarify.
hf_bethany - Iconic face.
hf_bethany_h1s1
hf_bethany_h1s2
hf_bethany_h1s3
hf_bethany_h2s1
hf_bethany_h2s2
hf_bethany_h2s3
hf_bethany_h3s1
hf_bethany_h3s2
hf_bethany_h3s3
hf_bethany_inf - Infected Face
hf_ibethany_h1s1 - All i beginning ones are in-game and used to changed already in game Bethany
hf_ibethany_h1s2
hf_ibethany_h1s3
hf_ibethany_h2s1
hf_ibethany_h2s2
hf_ibethany_h2s3
hf_ibethany_h3s1
hf_ibethany_h3s2
hf_ibethany_h3s3

The easiest way if you don't know which particular face set you have for your bethany is to simple replace all of them with your custom face. The only problem(s) that might happen, as I haven't thoroughly tested my own mod, is that I'm not sure if the skin tone will change correctly nor will Infected show up right.

Modifié par Veritrix, 16 août 2011 - 01:42 .


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Veritrix wrote...

There is a second set of faces for Bethany that begins with an i. You'll need to change those as well. Learned that one while making a mod for Carver so he always has the long hair.

Edit: Let me clarify.
hf_bethany - Iconic face.
hf_bethany_h1s1
hf_bethany_h1s2
hf_bethany_h1s3
hf_bethany_h2s1
hf_bethany_h2s2
hf_bethany_h2s3
hf_bethany_h3s1
hf_bethany_h3s2
hf_bethany_h3s3
hf_bethany_inf - Infected Face
hf_ibethany_h1s1 - All i beginning ones are in-game and used to changed already in game Bethany
hf_ibethany_h1s2
hf_ibethany_h1s3
hf_ibethany_h2s1
hf_ibethany_h2s2
hf_ibethany_h2s3
hf_ibethany_h3s1
hf_ibethany_h3s2
hf_ibethany_h3s3

The easiest way if you don't know which particular face set you have for your bethany is to simple replace all of them with your custom face. The only problem(s) that might happen, as I haven't thoroughly tested my own mod, is that I'm not sure if the skin tone will change correctly nor will Infected show up right.


Oh jeez that was what was wrong? I thank you so much! I wondered why there were so many files *sigh* I was going nuts trying to find out why it wasn't working. Man this going to take a while I still have to remake a Carver face myself.  So I have to change all the files or just the "i" ones?

Modifié par Steelcry, 16 août 2011 - 02:53 .


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Veritrix

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I'd say just change them all to be safe as I'm not sure if just doing the i files would work.

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Veritrix wrote...

I'd say just change them all to be safe as I'm not sure if just doing the i files would work.


Well I tryed with just the 'i' files and it didn't work. So then I did all the files. It worked! Now I'm trying out Carver only thing is, well I think I'm missing some files... I mean I have all the 'i' files like beth but I'm missing
h2s1
h2s2
h3s3
For his non "i" set are you missing those files too? I'm even trying to work on mama Hawke but her files are even more strange instead of 'i' files she has 'z' I'm starting to think the 'i' files mean infected and not in game. it would make since as to way they didn't show up... AHHHHH fiddle sticks now I have redo all the 'i's for the twins with an infected version. Thank gods for mods or I wouldn't have that options... Which reminds me I should check to see if any have been updated...

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hf_ibethany_h1s1 - All i beginning ones are in-game and used to changed already in game Bethany


What? No. The "ibethany" faces are the Deep Roads infected versions of the regular "bethany" faces. hf_ibethany_h2s3 is the infected version of hf_bethany_h2s3, for example.

Steelcry, you will need to override files 1-10 in the list in your OP with your regular Bethany face, and files 11-20 with either an infected version of your regular Bethany face, or the same regular Bethany face if you don't care about whether she looks properly infected during that sequence. Alternately, you can just override the files that pertain to your particular Bethany, which can be determined either via process of elimination or by figuring out which one you're getting based on these charts (the faces in the first image are h1s1, h1s2 and h1s3 respectively, and so on).

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Okay, I think I can give you the correct and complete list:

# BETHANY

hf_bethany = Iconic Bethany (exaggerated scene)

hf_bethany_h1s1 = Default Bethany (fair skin)
hf_bethany_h1s2 = Default Bethany (asian skin)
hf_bethany_h1s3 = Default Bethany (dark skin + another hairstyle)

hf_bethany_h2s1 = Bethany Second Preset (fair skin)
hf_bethany_h2s2 = Bethany Second Preset (asian skin)
hf_bethany_h2s3 = Bethany Second Preset (dark skin)

hf_bethany_h3s1 = Bethany Third Preset (fair skin)
hf_bethany_h3s2 = Bethany Third Preset (asian skin)
hf_bethany_h3s3 = Bethany Third Preset (dark skin)

hf_bethany_inf = Infected Iconic Bethany

hf_ibethany_h1s1 = Infected Default Bethany (fair skin)
hf_ibethany_h1s2 = Infected Default Bethany (asian skin)
hf_ibethany_h1s3 = Infected Default Bethany (dark skin + another hairstyle)

hf_ibethany_h2s1 = Infected Bethany Second Preset (fair skin)
hf_ibethany_h2s2 = Infected Bethany Second Preset (asian skin)
hf_ibethany_h2s3 = Infected Bethany Second Preset (dark skin)

hf_ibethany_h3s1 = Infected Bethany Third Preset (fair skin)
hf_ibethany_h3s2 = Infected Bethany Third Preset (asian skin)
hf_ibethany_h3s3 = Infected Bethany Third Preset (dark skin)

# CARVER

hm_carver = Iconic Carver (exaggerated scene)

hm_carver_h1s1 = Default Carver (fair skin)
hm_carver_h1s2 = Default Carver (asian skin)
hm_carver_h1s3 = Default Carver (dark skin + another hairstyle)

hm_carver_h2s1 = Carver Second Preset (fair skin)
hm_carver_h2s2 = Carver Second Preset (asian skin)
hm_carver_h2s3 = Carver Second Preset (dark skin)

hm_carver_h3s1 = Carver Third Preset (fair skin)
hm_carver_h3s2 = Carver Third Preset (asian skin)
hm_carver_h3s3 = Carver Third Preset (dark skin)

hm_carver_inf = Infected Iconic Carver

hm_icarver_h1s1 = Infected Default Carver (fair skin)
hm_icarver_h1s2 = Infected Default Carver (asian skin)
hm_icarver_h1s3 = Infected Default Carver (dark skin + another hairstyle)

hm_icarver_h2s1 = Infected Carver Second Preset (fair skin)
hm_icarver_h2s2 = Infected Carver Second Preset (asian skin)
hm_icarver_h2s3 = Infected Carver Second Preset (dark skin)

hm_icarver_h3s1 = Infected Carver Third Preset (fair skin)
hm_icarver_h3s2 = Infected Carver Third Preset (asian skin)
hm_icarver_h3s3 = Infected Carver Third Preset (dark skin)

# MOTHER

hf_mother = Iconic Leandra (old preset I suppose…)

hf_mother_h1s1 = Default Leandra (fair skin)
hf_mother_h1s2 = Default Leandra (asian skin)
hf_mother_h1s3 = Default Leandra (dark skin + another hairstyle)

hf_mother_h2s1 = Leandra Second Preset (fair skin)
hf_mother_h2s2 = Leandra Second Preset (asian skin)
hf_mother_h2s3 = Leandra Second Preset (dark skin)

hf_mother_h3s1 = Leandra Third Preset (fair skin)
hf_mother_h3s2 = Leandra Third Preset (asian skin)
hf_mother_h3s3 = Leandra Third Preset (dark skin)

hf_zmother_h1s1 = Zombie Default Leandra (fair skin)
hf_zmother_h1s2 = Zombie Default Leandra (asian skin)
hf_zmother_h1s3 = Zombie Default Leandra (dark skin + another hairstyle)

hf_zmother_h2s1 = Zombie Leandra Second Preset (fair skin)
hf_zmother_h2s2 = Zombie Leandra Second Preset (asian skin)
hf_zmother_h2s3 = Zombie Leandra Second Preset (dark skin)

hf_zmother_h3s1 = Zombie Leandra Third Preset (fair skin)
hf_zmother_h3s2 = Zombie Leandra Third Preset (asian skin)
hf_zmother_h3s3 = Zombie Leandra Third Preset (dark skin)

hf_zombiemother = Iconic Zombie Leandra (I'm not sure about this one)


Gamlen can go suck an egg :P Maybe this table will help, lists are boring:

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I didn't put the Iconic Presets on the table, but they are those of the exaggerated scene, so we don't care.
For the infected ones (zombie for Mother), it is exactly the same presets with infected eyes and skin. Examples:

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If you want to put infected eyes in your own family presets, you have to add the infected eye texture with the gff editor on MORPH_NODE ("line" 12 for Carver, 19 for Bethany and 21 for Mum). Meh. I'm really bad for explanations, here's a screenshot of an infected Carver mor to show you what I mean. There're also the skin to change... And Zombie Mum has the diadem hairstyle too.

Or you can just don't make infected siblings and zombie mum, they appear for 2 minutes after all...

Modifié par Haiiro, 17 août 2011 - 08:37 .


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Twofold Black wrote...


hf_ibethany_h1s1 - All i beginning ones are in-game and used to changed already in game Bethany


What? No. The "ibethany" faces are the Deep Roads infected versions of the regular "bethany" faces. hf_ibethany_h2s3 is the infected version of hf_bethany_h2s3, for example.

Steelcry, you will need to override files 1-10 in the list in your OP with your regular Bethany face, and files 11-20 with either an infected version of your regular Bethany face, or the same regular Bethany face if you don't care about whether she looks properly infected during that sequence. Alternately, you can just override the files that pertain to your particular Bethany, which can be determined either via process of elimination or by figuring out which one you're getting based on these charts (the faces in the first image are h1s1, h1s2 and h1s3 respectively, and so on).


Yeah I thought as much but its all trial and error really. Thanks for the info and the charts they will help.

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Haiiro wrote...

Okay, I think I can give you the correct and complete list:

*SNIP* (just silly to quote shuch a big post)


Oh my... thank you so much for this it will make things so much eaiser! Only I seem to be missing some files for Carver hm_carver_h2s1---hm_carver_h2s2---hm_carver_h3s3. I download a file set from here that had copies and that's what I've been using...

Modifié par Steelcry, 18 août 2011 - 01:22 .


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Steelcry wrote...

Only I seem to be missing some files for Carver hm_carver_h2s1---hm_carver_h2s2---hm_carver_h3s3. I download a file set from here that had copies and that's what I've been using...

Is it this file you're talking about? In fact, the mor you mentioned aren’t really missing. You will find them in the "Face/Human/m" folder.

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Haiiro wrote...

Steelcry wrote...

Only I seem to be missing some files for Carver hm_carver_h2s1---hm_carver_h2s2---hm_carver_h3s3. I download a file set from here that had copies and that's what I've been using...

Is it this file you're talking about? In fact, the mor you mentioned aren’t really missing. You will find them in the "Face/Human/m" folder.


Yep that's the file *blinks* what the heck are they doing in there lol! Note to self double check other folders just incase from now on hehe. Thanks again I thought I was going to have to try and find them in the game files I don't even want to ever dream of deviling into shuch confusing files XD

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Sorry for for trying to reviving a now dead/complete topic. Some thing I want to try to do is change all my family presets to Asian one and make a custom morph for Beth&Carver as gift for my friend. Can you guys direct to me a tutorial on what you guys are doing or tell me how to do what I want to do, Please and Thank you.