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I'd say go watch Eureka 7, I found it to be very moving.

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Thanks for the info guys. I'll check them out!

Also, I didn't know you guys were counting films! Howl's Moving Castle is one of my absolute favorite movies of all time! :D

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I know some people already mentioned some great ones (Mushi-shi, Ergo Proxy, Evangelion and Ghost in the Shell), I would add:

Kino no Tabi (In the vain of Mushi-shi with stand alone episodes, but Kino is a fabulous character.  Seriously)
Noir (one of my favorites of all time)***can be streamed from Netflix.
Azumanga Daioh  (Love, love, love, although it takes some getting used to...stick with it though.)
Beck Mongolian Chop Squad (if you've ever wanted to be in a band or start a band, this is the one to see....it's a nice slice of life anime)

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FoxHound109 wrote...

Thanks for the info guys. I'll check them out!

Also, I didn't know you guys were counting films! Howl's Moving Castle is one of my absolute favorite movies of all time! :D


Ofcourse we have to count films! Really watch anyone movie I linked they are all so great.

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I recommend Gunslinger Girls.

Don't watch it if you have problems watching a child get murdered,commiting suicide or killing people.

The first series of Gunslinger Girl was great: loved the animation, loved the stories, loved the pacing. The second series, Il Teatrino, turned that all upside down with a new animation style, some new voice actors, and a series long story arc. While i still liked Il Teatrino, it wasn't nearly as much fun or as interesting as the first series.

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Village Idiot wrote...


I know some people already mentioned some great ones (Mushi-shi, Ergo Proxy, Evangelion and Ghost in the Shell), I would add:

Kino no Tabi (In the vain of Mushi-shi with stand alone episodes, but Kino is a fabulous character.  Seriously)
Noir (one of my favorites of all time)***can be streamed from Netflix.
Azumanga Daioh  (Love, love, love, although it takes some getting used to...stick with it though.)
Beck Mongolian Chop Squad (if you've ever wanted to be in a band or start a band, this is the one to see....it's a nice slice of life anime)

Azumanha Daioh is very much like the Peanuts in my view and it is full of Japanese humor, it's not for everyone but it is much better than crap otaku shows like Haruhi and Lucky Star.:whistle:

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Melrache wrote...

It's not strong kind of dislike, but it's still there. Just can't take any of it seriously or enjoy it in anyway.


You have to take the blinders off. It's easy not take another culture's art seriously if you don't approach it with an open mind and learn a bit of the medium's history.

Here is a good start to the history.


http://en.wikipedia....ki/Osamu_Tezuka 

And a great quote from him.

"Manga is virtual. Manga is sentiment. Manga is resistance. Manga is bizarre. Manga is pathos. Manga is destruction. Manga is arrogance. Manga is love. Manga is kitsch. Manga is sense of wonder. Manga is ... there is no conclusion yet."


No Melrache has a point. It IS hard to take anime seriously. Just look at half the crap they shovel out most of the time.

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I mean MOST of the stuff out there can be summed up by "Its in a High School", about a "Passive Protagonist", surrounded by "Stereotype women".


You're basing an opinion on one particular anime based on a fansub error *facepalm*
That "crap" happens to be one of the best modern action/supernatural anime out there. , Fate/Stay Night.

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Some Geth wrote...
Azumanha Daioh is very much like the Peanuts in my view and it is full of Japanese humor, it's not for everyone but it is much better than crap otaku shows like Haruhi and Lucky Star.:whistle:


I like those otaku shows. They have real spirit to them. They're kinda unique too.^_^

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Some Geth wrote...

Village Idiot wrote...

Azumanga Daioh  (Love, love, love, although it takes some getting used to...stick with it though.)


Azumanha Daioh is very much like the Peanuts in my view and it is full of Japanese humor, it's not for everyone but it is much better than crap otaku shows like Haruhi and Lucky Star.:whistle:

My friend has a DVD edition of Azumanga Daioh which includes a booklet outlining some of the cultural references in the series as well as explaining many of the puns and jokes in each episode. My edition doesn't have that booklet and I am envious.

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I like those otaku shows. They have real spirit to them. They're kinda unique too.^_^

Have you tried Genshiken? It features an anime club who are fans of a fictional show called Kujibiki Unbalance. The DVD contains three episodes of this fictional show, from the beginning, middle and end of the fictional series. Then the producers made "Kujibiki Unbalance" an actual anime series!

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Azumanga Daioh, getting flashbacks in the teen years. Don't think I've ever heard of Gunslingers though.

Azumanha Daioh is very much like the Peanuts in my view

That's fairly accurate, it's very slapsticky from what I remember.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

I recommend Gunslinger Girls.

Don't watch it if you have problems watching a child get murdered,commiting suicide or killing people.

The first series of Gunslinger Girl was great: loved the animation, loved the stories, loved the pacing. The second series, Il Teatrino, turned that all upside down with a new animation style, some new voice actors, and a series long story arc. While i still liked Il Teatrino, it wasn't nearly as much fun or as interesting as the first series.


I was very dissapointed with Teatrino, which is ironic since the creator of the manga was involved with that production. The end of Gunslinger girl is tear-jerker. Some wonderfully composed scenes in that series as well.

Modifié par slimgrin, 10 décembre 2011 - 01:29 .


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Stanley Woo wrote...

Have you tried Genshiken? It features an anime club who are fans of a fictional show called Kujibiki Unbalance. The DVD contains three episodes of this fictional show, from the beginning, middle and end of the fictional series. Then the producers made "Kujibiki Unbalance" an actual anime series!


I liked that show.:)
It's plenty educating in the explaining of this "sub-culture" - something every otaku should show their non-otaku boyfriend/girlfriend (iff the latter has the will and interest.. and it'd be to possibly show that there are worse specimens around). Though I will never agree to admit I'm one myself...

I didn't know Kujubiki Unbabalce was mad into a show.
Sounds like a premium idea. =]

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Andarthiel_Demigod wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Melrache wrote...

It's not strong kind of dislike, but it's still there. Just can't take any of it seriously or enjoy it in anyway.


You have to take the blinders off. It's easy not take another culture's art seriously if you don't approach it with an open mind and learn a bit of the medium's history.

Here is a good start to the history.


http://en.wikipedia....ki/Osamu_Tezuka 

And a great quote from him.

"Manga is virtual. Manga is sentiment. Manga is resistance. Manga is bizarre. Manga is pathos. Manga is destruction. Manga is arrogance. Manga is love. Manga is kitsch. Manga is sense of wonder. Manga is ... there is no conclusion yet."


No Melrache has a point. It IS hard to take anime seriously. Just look at half the crap they shovel out most of the time.

Image IPB

I mean MOST of the stuff out there can be summed up by "Its in a High School", about a "Passive Protagonist", surrounded by "Stereotype women".


You're basing an opinion on one particular anime based on a fansub error *facepalm*
That "crap" happens to be one of the best modern action/supernatural anime out there. , Fate/Stay Night.




regardless, a lot of the stuff out there is very cliche.

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slimgrin wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

I recommend Gunslinger Girls.

Don't watch it if you have problems watching a child get murdered,commiting suicide or killing people.

The first series of Gunslinger Girl was great: loved the animation, loved the stories, loved the pacing. The second series, Il Teatrino, turned that all upside down with a new animation style, some new voice actors, and a series long story arc. While i still liked Il Teatrino, it wasn't nearly as much fun or as interesting as the first series.


I was very dissapointed with Teatrino, which is ironic since the creator of the manga was involved with that production. The end of Gunslinger girl is tear-jerker. Some wonderfully composed scenes in that series as well.


I hear the original manga can't continue because of some new law over there that prevents illustrating the death of minors. Sort of like here, but official law.

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I can't say that I either like or dislike Anime as a whole. I like some shows/movies and dislike others. Full Metal Alchemist (original - not seen Brotherhood), Evangelion, Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Serial Experiments Lain and a few others I've really liked, but a lot of others I've hated; Naturo, Bleach (actually I liked the first series, but after that it went Dragon Ball Z) Fruits Basket (don't ask).

So yeah. I like some things, others I don't. Meh.

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I used to watch a lot of it when I was younger, now if I do anything related to anime, it is just drawing it, mainly for commissions. Otherwise I dismiss it, I'm more into American cartoons when I draw nowadays.

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Akira and Cowboy Bebop are the only anime I've ever really enjoyed.

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Not an anime fan. I've just never made the connection.

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DominusVita wrote...

Azumanga Daioh, getting flashbacks in the teen years. Don't think I've ever heard of Gunslingers though.

Azumanha Daioh is very much like the Peanuts in my view

That's fairly accurate, it's very slapsticky from what I remember.

Yeah the Japanese love slapstick. Also the manga was more like the Peanuts since it was a comic strip(only had 4 panels a chapter) too.

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No Melrache has a point. It IS hard to take anime seriously. Just look at half the crap they shovel out most of the time.

Image IPB

I mean MOST of the stuff out there can be summed up by "Its in a High School", about a "Passive Protagonist", surrounded by "Stereotype women".


To be fair that's both a fairly silly translation and makes a lot more sense in context.


SPOILER

He'd just been killed himself and then pulled a Lazarus. People should die if they're killed.

/SPOILER

regardless, a lot of the stuff out there is very cliche.


"90% of everything is crap".

Modifié par Gespenst, 13 décembre 2011 - 02:59 .


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Anime is just like any other medium. Lots of crap, some good stuff, and a few absolutely stellar titles. Books, tv series, live action tv, theatre, musicals, Swedish animation, American animation, Japanese animation, it's all the same.

Stanley Woo wrote...

Have you tried Genshiken?

Genshiken is the one part of Japanese culture which ever made me wish I lived in Japan. Damn good stuff =) I get so jealous though! ^^;

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C9316 wrote...

I'd say go watch Eureka 7, I found it to be very moving.


I love that series. I've watched the whole thing 3 times now and i could still watch it again. I can't say that for many long series. Shame about the movie being such a horrible waste of time it could have been something special.

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eroeru wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Have you tried Genshiken? It features an anime club who are fans of a fictional show called Kujibiki Unbalance. The DVD contains three episodes of this fictional show, from the beginning, middle and end of the fictional series. Then the producers made "Kujibiki Unbalance" an actual anime series!


I liked that show.:)
It's plenty educating in the explaining of this "sub-culture" - something every otaku should show their non-otaku boyfriend/girlfriend (iff the latter has the will and interest.. and it'd be to possibly show that there are worse specimens around). Though I will never agree to admit I'm one myself...

I don't think that's always a good idea. Many non-otaku still see anime as either a kid's medium (like North American cartoons) or all tentacle porn (since that's what most visible on the internet). Genshiken has a very balanced view of otaku, but unless you've got an open mind to begin with and can accept those parts of Japanese culture (especailly regarding sex and interpersonal relationships), it might be a little off-putting to see a girlfriend accepting her boyfriend being obsessed by playing adult anime computer games.

The extreme obsession with and dedication to fandom might also be uncomfortable to some, since it's the main focus of Genshiken.

I didn't know Kujubiki Unbabalce was mad into a show.
Sounds like a premium idea.

They changed some of the characters around, and tweaked the concept to make it viable as a stand-alone series. They probably also changed things so that people wouldn't already be spoiled, since the ending of Kujibiki Unbalance was featured on the Genshiken DVD and was discussed in an episode of the show. Also, new theme song, which I didn't like as much. :)

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I just started watching english subbed episodes of Air Master and it's pretty cool so far. Searched out the english dub but the voice acting was too terrible to stomach for too long.