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[Kaiser Arian XVII]

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[Andarthiel_Demigod]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

This made me lol.

[Homebound]

shakugan no shana and fist of the north star if im not mistaken. i could tell you people have stopped watching anime and instead are more interested in seeing stereotypes play out over and over again but really i dont get it either.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Fist of the Northstar was famous for manly speeches, manly fights, manly deaths and manly tears.

Now we get a buch of fetishized lolis. And kill me if I'm worg, but they seem to be geetting younger and younger...Part of anime is moving into Pedobear territory.

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 17 janvier 2012 - 07:52 .

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Fist of the Northstar was famous for manly speeches, manly fights, manly deaths and manly tears.

Now we get a buch of fetishized lolis. And kill me if I'm worg, but they seem to be geetting younger and younger...Part of anime is moving into Pedobear territory.

I didn't get it

[Lotion Soronarr]

Watch Azumanga Daioh.....look at that scene with the specific characters involed...google pedobear..laugh.

this might help

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 17 janvier 2012 - 07:07 .

[Clover Rider]

jreezy wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

 Dubs are fine, just look at Cowboy Bebop.

And YuYu Hakusho. And Bleach. 

YuYu Hakusho's dub is more funny than it is great but still fine for what it is. Anytime I see the Bleach dub I keep thinking any moment Ichigo will yell "MASTODON POWER" but overall Bleach with dub or without is a bad bad BAD manga/anime.

Also Azumanga Daioh is great and so is Fist of the North Star.

Modifié par Some Geth, 17 janvier 2012 - 09:46 .

[Gen. Grievous]

Gen. Grievous wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Gen. Grievous wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

I don't know what you have seen, I know what I have seen. The few mangas I have read were more over-the-top then the anime adaptation.

And besides, I prefer moving pictures, voice and color over black and white and mediocre art.

Look at this thread you will see a bit of what I have read, the anime adaptaions are more over-the-top(and with bad filler) than the manga always.

Given that I already have read a few, I can definately file this replay of your under BS because I KNOW it's not true.
Blanket statetements like that will get you nowhere.

Yeah you like the moving pictures, voice and color like a baby or kid likes having keys in their face... and again that Lone Wolf and Cub sure has mediocre art!

I think you know nothing of manga and art is what I am saying, so go read Bakuman or something.<_<

Excuse me if my desire for qualitsy offends you. Not that I care.
Seriously drop this redicolous routine.

Does it anger you so much that I prefer anime over manga that you fall back to insults?
This alone speaks volumes about you.

Yeah I am sorry about what I said and I mean it(does not help to be up for two full days...). it's just the way you said you like "moving pictures, voice and color over black and white mediocre art" was like someone saying they like Bay's Transformers movies over Citizen Kane because it's louder, has color and has explosions. I am sure that's not what you meant but it's what I saw it as and again sorry if I am wrong. And you are a bit right the anime shows of Yu Yu Hakusho, Hunter x Hunter and Level E are not more over-the-top they are about the same as their manga but that is all I can think of and I read/watch a lot of stuff.

Also nothing on here has ever got me so angry I would fall back to insults, annoyed? sure but never from anger and this is a forum that has people who like to roleplay as Naz!s!

So what I am saying let us start over, now how about you tell me what manga you have read?

@eroeru I know very well the Cap has a right to an opinion but we are having a discussion, not a fight. Now I don't think he has a impartial position at all(if that is what you are saying he has) and really the only shonen(that most people know) that would ****** anyone off would be Naruto, Bleach and Fairy Tail and Shonen still is not a genre.

I really am not trying to force my opinion on to anyone but he has been wrong on somethings so far and you will see it more when I reply to the Cap, you are right he should hate shonen, if he feels like it, but he should also know more about it first imo.

And Shonen has a lot of great works to be defensive about(if you know what you are talking about) Hunter x Hunter(this one is better than most Seinen), Level E, Bakuman, FMA, Fist of the North Star, Slam Dunk, Soul Eater, Death Note, Barefoot Gen, GTO, JoJo's Bezarre Adventure, Gintama, D. Gray-man, Black Jack, Franken Fran, Trigun, Saint Seiya, Konjiki no Gash Bell, Toriko, Sket Dance, Rookies, Captain Tsubasa and yes even One Piece and Dragon Ball(if only because people take Dragon Ball too serious) so yeah no crap like Bleach or Fairy Tail will ever make all of the shonen manga I just said be bad, like slimgrin said don't codemn all anime, well don't codemn all Shonen.

And Cap I will get to you soon.

You were right about making long threads in this discussion Some Geth...
But seriously; once again, I find amusement in your lack of sensible thread. It still evades me how you all don't see how manga/anime in general is just plain BAD. The lack of skill that both the writers and the artists put into their stories, whether animated film or comic book, is so amusing it saddens me to see that people actually watch/read this. The plots are predictable, filled with holes, and confusing. The art is badly comical, overdone, and, therefore, unrealistic (even in the so-called "mature" or "realistic" anime).

 I was in the theater when the preview for "The Secret World of Arrietty" came out. I caught laughter from other members of the audience when the preview for "Mirror, Mirror" came up (another dumb, quirky movie, comparable to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory). Yet, when the 'Arrietty' preview came up, no one in the theater at any given time laughed during that preview. Even in the so-called "amusing" parts. Oh, and by the way, the movie we went to see was The Adventures of Tintin. You'd think that if 'Arrietty' was aimed at any crowd, it would be the same crowd coming to see 'Tintin'.

 Just sayin'.

Omae wa mou shindeiru.

And The Secret World of Arrietty is bassed on The Borrowers.

I am (once again) amused to see that Some Geth's logic is sadly impaired (as well as his spelling. "bassed"? really?) He avoids the entire point of the paragraph I wrote, and, in the process, turns to useless insults ("Omae wa mou shindeiru"). Seriously? He just said in a previous post that he doesn't turn to insults normally.

Foolish...

Some Geth, hate to crush you, but you failed to logically reply to my post. Seriously, are you a liberal? I smell a rat here...

[Gen. Grievous]

Some Geth wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

 Dubs are fine, just look at Cowboy Bebop.

And YuYu Hakusho. And Bleach. 

YuYu Hakusho's dub is more funny than it is great but still fine for what it is. Anytime I see the Bleach dub I keep thinking any moment Ichigo will yell "MASTODON POWER" but overall Bleach with dub or without is a bad bad BAD manga/anime.

Also Azumanga Daioh is great and so is Fist of the North Star.

You think that the average American enjoys what you guys are talking about? The average American doesn't even understand what you're saying. That's because anime is everything I said it is up above. Get real people.

[Clover Rider]

 What do you call this then?

"And my point still stands it is based on The Borrowers(the rest of your post is a ton of rubbish, I am not going to go over all that).

I also never said anything like that about using insults, read my post better next time.  

Once again. Omae wa mou shindeiru."

If you need help getting it just say so.

And who cares what the "average American enjoys" what does that have to do with anything? and Anime is not what you say it is. Get real yourself.

Modifié par Some Geth, 17 janvier 2012 - 11:04 .

[Gen. Grievous]

Oh, by the way, Osamu Tezuka broke into tears when he watched "Momotaro's Divine Sea Warriors" for the first time. It was propaganda for the Japanese Imperial Navy during WWII. He said that hidden underneath all of the propaganda was a bunch of "hopes and dreams."

Yeah, hopes and dreams for a utopian, totalitarian world, where the proles are the base of the economic system, ans Big Brother is ever-present. Oh, and by the way: that world would require the existence of Hitler's dream as well: a "Third Reich" would be very real in a world like that.

Did you guys ever watch "Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah"? That movie portayed Japs as the heroes in WWII, did it not? Remember the scene where Godzilla was killing all those U.S. troops? And then the Japanese troops are all spared? (Heck, they even walk right up and thank him) Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Open your eyes people.

[Gen. Grievous]

Some Geth wrote...

 What do you call this then?

"And my point still stands it is based on The Borrowers(the rest of your post is a ton of rubbish, I am not going to go over all that).

I also never said anything like that about using insults, read my post better next time.  

Once again. Omae wa mou shindeiru."

If you need help getting it just say so.

And who cares what the "average American enjoys" what does that have to do with anything? and Anime is not what you say it is. Get real yourself.

You said in your post that you were genuinely sorry and that you really meant it. You also mentioned that you hadn't been getting enough sleep. Oookay, it seems to me that you went right back to throwing useless insults (in Japanese, yet) immediately after apologizing to someone who you threw one to.

Idiotic.

[Clover Rider]

Gen. Grievous wrote...

Oh, by the way, Osamu Tezuka broke into tears when he watched "Momotaro's Divine Sea Warriors" for the first time. It was propaganda for the Japanese Imperial Navy during WWII. He said that hidden underneath all of the propaganda was a bunch of "hopes and dreams."

Yeah, hopes and dreams for a utopian, totalitarian world, where the proles are the base of the economic system, ans Big Brother is ever-present. Oh, and by the way: that world would require the existence of Hitler's dream as well: a "Third Reich" would be very real in a world like that.

Did you guys ever watch "Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah"? That movie portayed Japs as the heroes in WWII, did it not? Remember the scene where Godzilla was killing all those U.S. troops? And then the Japanese troops are all spared? (Heck, they even walk right up and thank him) Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Open your eyes people.

He broke into tears beacuse he really really REALLY loves animation(Disney was the big reason he got into it) and yeah underneath all the propaganda it had a lot of "hopes and dreams" for something that the director who was ordered to make it by the Japanese Naval Ministry(something you can't say no to or you know death or worse) could have.

Hell the director of it Mitsuto Seo was very left-wing to the point any time he try to make movies in his politics, Japan(well more like Toho and guess who makes Godzilla?) would stop him.

So how about you open your eyes.

Modifié par Some Geth, 17 janvier 2012 - 11:39 .

[Clover Rider]

Gen. Grievous wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

 What do you call this then?

"And my point still stands it is based on The Borrowers(the rest of your post is a ton of rubbish, I am not going to go over all that).

I also never said anything like that about using insults, read my post better next time.  

Once again. Omae wa mou shindeiru."

If you need help getting it just say so.

And who cares what the "average American enjoys" what does that have to do with anything? and Anime is not what you say it is. Get real yourself.

You said in your post that you were genuinely sorry and that you really meant it. You also mentioned that you hadn't been getting enough sleep. Oookay, it seems to me that you went right back to throwing useless insults (in Japanese, yet) immediately after apologizing to someone who you threw one to.

Idiotic.

Yeah I was sorry to him and I said this as well.

"Also nothing on here has ever got me so angry I would fall back to insults, annoyed? sure but never from anger"

So yup getting annoyed(or for a good joke) makes the insults come right out of me.

And it's not like you even know it was an insult(it was more of a joke by the way) to you.

Modifié par Some Geth, 17 janvier 2012 - 11:37 .

[Gen. Grievous]

Some Geth wrote...

Gen. Grievous wrote...

Oh, by the way, Osamu Tezuka broke into tears when he watched "Momotaro's Divine Sea Warriors" for the first time. It was propaganda for the Japanese Imperial Navy during WWII. He said that hidden underneath all of the propaganda was a bunch of "hopes and dreams."

Yeah, hopes and dreams for a utopian, totalitarian world, where the proles are the base of the economic system, ans Big Brother is ever-present. Oh, and by the way: that world would require the existence of Hitler's dream as well: a "Third Reich" would be very real in a world like that.

Did you guys ever watch "Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah"? That movie portayed Japs as the heroes in WWII, did it not? Remember the scene where Godzilla was killing all those U.S. troops? And then the Japanese troops are all spared? (Heck, they even walk right up and thank him) Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Open your eyes people.

He broke into tears beacuse he really really REALLY loves animation(Disney was the big reason he got into it) and yeah underneath all the propaganda it had a lot of "hopes and dreams" for something that the director who was ordered to make it by the Japanese Naval Ministry(something you can't say no to or you know death or worse) could have.

Hell the director of it Mitsuto Seo was very left-wing to the point any time he try to make movies in his politics, Japan(well more like Toho and guess who makes Godzilla?) would stop him.

So how about you open your eyes.

Oh, is that so? Does the the fact that the movie reached the U.S. even slightly hint that Japan was concerned about it's content? I think not.

And as for your other example, you have no idea what Tezuka meant by that (and come to think of it, no one really knows for sure). My post was based on the known facts: he broke into tears while watching ****** propaganda. That doesn't suggest that he was in tears for other purposes than the ones you mentioned? Namely the reasons that I suggested?

Quite naive of you, really.

[Gen. Grievous]

Heh...
I've got minor lag here...

Modifié par Gen. Grievous, 18 janvier 2012 - 12:08 .

[bmwcrazy]

This thread needs more cute anime girls.

[Gen. Grievous]

Some Geth wrote...

Gen. Grievous wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

 What do you call this then?

"And my point still stands it is based on The Borrowers(the rest of your post is a ton of rubbish, I am not going to go over all that).

I also never said anything like that about using insults, read my post better next time.  

Once again. Omae wa mou shindeiru."

If you need help getting it just say so.

And who cares what the "average American enjoys" what does that have to do with anything? and Anime is not what you say it is. Get real yourself.

You said in your post that you were genuinely sorry and that you really meant it. You also mentioned that you hadn't been getting enough sleep. Oookay, it seems to me that you went right back to throwing useless insults (in Japanese, yet) immediately after apologizing to someone who you threw one to.

Idiotic.

Yeah I was sorry to him and I said this as well.

"Also nothing on here has ever got me so angry I would fall back to insults, annoyed? sure but never from anger"

So yup getting annoyed(or for a good joke) makes the insults come right out of me.

And it's not like you even know it was an insult(it was more of a joke by the way) to you.

Who taught you how to write? "And it's not like you even know it was an insult(it was more of a joke) to you."

That sentence sounds quite unintelligible.

[Gen. Grievous]

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Fist of the Northstar was famous for manly speeches, manly fights, manly deaths and manly tears.

Now we get a buch of fetishized lolis. And kill me if I'm worg, but they seem to be geetting younger and younger...Part of anime is moving into Pedobear territory.

I didn't get it

Yeah, I'm part of both that 90% and the latter 5%.

[Clover Rider]

Gen. Grievous wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Gen. Grievous wrote...

Oh, by the way, Osamu Tezuka broke into tears when he watched "Momotaro's Divine Sea Warriors" for the first time. It was propaganda for the Japanese Imperial Navy during WWII. He said that hidden underneath all of the propaganda was a bunch of "hopes and dreams."

Yeah, hopes and dreams for a utopian, totalitarian world, where the proles are the base of the economic system, ans Big Brother is ever-present. Oh, and by the way: that world would require the existence of Hitler's dream as well: a "Third Reich" would be very real in a world like that.

Did you guys ever watch "Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah"? That movie portayed Japs as the heroes in WWII, did it not? Remember the scene where Godzilla was killing all those U.S. troops? And then the Japanese troops are all spared? (Heck, they even walk right up and thank him) Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Open your eyes people.

He broke into tears beacuse he really really REALLY loves animation(Disney was the big reason he got into it) and yeah underneath all the propaganda it had a lot of "hopes and dreams" for something that the director who was ordered to make it by the Japanese Naval Ministry(something you can't say no to or you know death or worse) could have.

Hell the director of it Mitsuto Seo was very left-wing to the point any time he try to make movies in his politics, Japan(well more like Toho and guess who makes Godzilla?) would stop him.

So how about you open your eyes.

Oh, is that so? Does the the fact that the movie reached the U.S. even slightly hint that Japan was concerned about it's content? I think not.

And as for your other example, you have no idea what Tezuka meant by that (and come to think of it, no one really knows for sure). My post was based on the known facts: he broke into tears while watching ****** propaganda. That doesn't suggest that he was in tears for other purposes than the ones you mentioned? Namely the reasons that I suggested?

Quite naive of you, really.

What? I don't think it ever reached America and you miss my point.

And yeah I am right about Tezuka beacuse it's not like he was a fan of the way Japan was back in WW2, this says it all.

 

Yup Tezuka was an evil man all for crazy Japan and Hitler and not at all a genius of art!

[Clover Rider]

Gen. Grievous wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Gen. Grievous wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

 What do you call this then?

"And my point still stands it is based on The Borrowers(the rest of your post is a ton of rubbish, I am not going to go over all that).

I also never said anything like that about using insults, read my post better next time.  

Once again. Omae wa mou shindeiru."

If you need help getting it just say so.

And who cares what the "average American enjoys" what does that have to do with anything? and Anime is not what you say it is. Get real yourself.

You said in your post that you were genuinely sorry and that you really meant it. You also mentioned that you hadn't been getting enough sleep. Oookay, it seems to me that you went right back to throwing useless insults (in Japanese, yet) immediately after apologizing to someone who you threw one to.

Idiotic.

Yeah I was sorry to him and I said this as well.

"Also nothing on here has ever got me so angry I would fall back to insults, annoyed? sure but never from anger"

So yup getting annoyed(or for a good joke) makes the insults come right out of me.

And it's not like you even know it was an insult(it was more of a joke by the way) to you.

Who taught you how to write? "And it's not like you even know it was an insult(it was more of a joke) to you."

That sentence sounds quite unintelligible.

You are right(for once) I should have said this.

"And it's not like you would know it was an insult to you(it was more of a joke by the way)"

There better? and it's not like you can read that well to begin with.


And no we don't need any "cute anime girls" in here.

Modifié par Some Geth, 18 janvier 2012 - 12:34 .

[Gen. Grievous]

Some Geth wrote...

Gen. Grievous wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Gen. Grievous wrote...

Oh, by the way, Osamu Tezuka broke into tears when he watched "Momotaro's Divine Sea Warriors" for the first time. It was propaganda for the Japanese Imperial Navy during WWII. He said that hidden underneath all of the propaganda was a bunch of "hopes and dreams."

Yeah, hopes and dreams for a utopian, totalitarian world, where the proles are the base of the economic system, ans Big Brother is ever-present. Oh, and by the way: that world would require the existence of Hitler's dream as well: a "Third Reich" would be very real in a world like that.

Did you guys ever watch "Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah"? That movie portayed Japs as the heroes in WWII, did it not? Remember the scene where Godzilla was killing all those U.S. troops? And then the Japanese troops are all spared? (Heck, they even walk right up and thank him) Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Open your eyes people.

He broke into tears beacuse he really really REALLY loves animation(Disney was the big reason he got into it) and yeah underneath all the propaganda it had a lot of "hopes and dreams" for something that the director who was ordered to make it by the Japanese Naval Ministry(something you can't say no to or you know death or worse) could have.

Hell the director of it Mitsuto Seo was very left-wing to the point any time he try to make movies in his politics, Japan(well more like Toho and guess who makes Godzilla?) would stop him.

So how about you open your eyes.

Oh, is that so? Does the the fact that the movie reached the U.S. even slightly hint that Japan was concerned about it's content? I think not.

And as for your other example, you have no idea what Tezuka meant by that (and come to think of it, no one really knows for sure). My post was based on the known facts: he broke into tears while watching ****** propaganda. That doesn't suggest that he was in tears for other purposes than the ones you mentioned? Namely the reasons that I suggested?

Quite naive of you, really.

What? I don't think it ever reached America and you miss my point.

And yeah I am right about Tezuka beacuse it's not like he was a fan of the way Japan was back in WW2, this says it all.

 

Yup Tezuka was an evil man all for crazy Japan and Hitler and not at all a genius of art!

I never said he was "an evil man all for crazy Japan and Hitler and not at all a genius of art."(that sentence was indecipherable as far as I'm concerned) I meant his actions suggested (to the casual viewer) that he regretted Japan losing the war. Is this not true? Consider the following example: the Mexicans call the Mexican-American War the "American Invasion." But we liberated them from a brutal dictator, Santa Anna. How come they don't revere us for that?

The casual viewer, I believe, would say the same thing about Japan (we dropped two A-bombs on them. do you think there is even the slightest chance that they wouldn't appreciate that very much?).

[Gen. Grievous]

And I wasn't talking about Momotaro's Divine Sea Warriors reaching the U.S...

I was talking about that Godzilla movie. It's out on Amazon (as a double feature DVD yet).

No, really.

[Clover Rider]

Gen. Grievous wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Gen. Grievous wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Gen. Grievous wrote...

Oh, by the way, Osamu Tezuka broke into tears when he watched "Momotaro's Divine Sea Warriors" for the first time. It was propaganda for the Japanese Imperial Navy during WWII. He said that hidden underneath all of the propaganda was a bunch of "hopes and dreams."

Yeah, hopes and dreams for a utopian, totalitarian world, where the proles are the base of the economic system, ans Big Brother is ever-present. Oh, and by the way: that world would require the existence of Hitler's dream as well: a "Third Reich" would be very real in a world like that.

Did you guys ever watch "Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah"? That movie portayed Japs as the heroes in WWII, did it not? Remember the scene where Godzilla was killing all those U.S. troops? And then the Japanese troops are all spared? (Heck, they even walk right up and thank him) Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Open your eyes people.

He broke into tears beacuse he really really REALLY loves animation(Disney was the big reason he got into it) and yeah underneath all the propaganda it had a lot of "hopes and dreams" for something that the director who was ordered to make it by the Japanese Naval Ministry(something you can't say no to or you know death or worse) could have.

Hell the director of it Mitsuto Seo was very left-wing to the point any time he try to make movies in his politics, Japan(well more like Toho and guess who makes Godzilla?) would stop him.

So how about you open your eyes.

Oh, is that so? Does the the fact that the movie reached the U.S. even slightly hint that Japan was concerned about it's content? I think not.

And as for your other example, you have no idea what Tezuka meant by that (and come to think of it, no one really knows for sure). My post was based on the known facts: he broke into tears while watching ****** propaganda. That doesn't suggest that he was in tears for other purposes than the ones you mentioned? Namely the reasons that I suggested?

Quite naive of you, really.

What? I don't think it ever reached America and you miss my point.

And yeah I am right about Tezuka beacuse it's not like he was a fan of the way Japan was back in WW2, this says it all.

 

Yup Tezuka was an evil man all for crazy Japan and Hitler and not at all a genius of art!

I never said he was "an evil man all for crazy Japan and Hitler and not at all a genius of art."(that sentence was indecipherable as far as I'm concerned) I meant his actions suggested (to the casual viewer) that he regretted Japan losing the war. Is this not true? Consider the following example: the Mexicans call the Mexican-American War the "American Invasion." But we liberated them from a brutal dictator, Santa Anna. How come they don't revere us for that?

The casual viewer, I believe, would say the same thing about Japan (we dropped two A-bombs on them. do you think there is even the slightest chance that they wouldn't appreciate that very much?).

If anything to anyone casual or not, Japan losing the war help make Tezuka a big name in art.

Again just watching his work tells you he was never for their craziness, does his work not count as his actions?

And yeah old people in Japan hate us but most people(kids, teens, young people and Tezuka=]) love us.

As for the Godzilla movie coming here we ask for it, we get it and that's why it's here.

Modifié par Some Geth, 18 janvier 2012 - 01:02 .