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[Jeth Prime]

I've tried to use a female Shepard once or twice.... Lost interest pretty quickly.

[Pockles]

1136342t54 wrote...

Pockles wrote...

And I suppose you're going to cite a plethora of examples illustrating humans engaging in fisticuffs with yahgs.

Sarcasm for sarcasm's sake.

I wouldn't have to either way. The fact that Yahgs are considered more terrifying then Krogan, can put one down in one blow or more and are bigger and tougher than Krogans shows that any human or even Krogan going up against a Yahg would likely go in the Yahg's favor.

I know. I'm new to BSN so I'm being a whiny contrarian to fit in better.

[looloolooigotsomeapples]

Time and resources. Gameplay reasons. Practicality. Regardless of whether Sheploo would win in a fist fight with femshep, it has been made evident that she is still very capable, and is equal in the situations that have been presented in the games. So it's unnecessary to make special scenes like that especially when it would cost far too much resources.

[Pockles]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Pockles wrote...

Definitely not. One reason I like femshep is because she can do everything maleshep can.

Careful there. Everything in terms of combat and I agree with you. 

Hey. That almost sounded dirty, fella.

[Clonedzero]

femshep should get her time of the month one mission so all dialogue options are renegade

[Brand New]

1136342t54 wrote...

Brand New wrote...

There is no logical disagreement or atleast for the mostp art. It is just a bunch of people crying sexist and making up gentic altercations in their heads. My opinion is mere fact theirs is speculation.

By saying your opinion is fact doesn't make it an opinion.

Male Shep is possibly physically superior but so much so that it would make a difference. They are obviously close enough that most situations can be handled the same way. The only true difference is paragon and renegade. I prefer it that way since it makes things less complicated.

Ok then I'll be more clear.

My opinion is based of facts and not jargon I am making up as I go along like most in this thread. Men and Women are different. If anything it is sexist the they make femshep just like male shep.

There are so many obvious faults in almost all these disagreements.

Miranda even states all your talent is natural.

[el master pr]

Reciever80 wrote...

Good luck getting this to happen.

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Heavy risk...

...but the priiize

This.

[Sundance31us]

Only if they include a scene where maleShep passes a 9 lb baby out of his....

[looloolooigotsomeapples]

Brand New wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Brand New wrote...

There is no logical disagreement or atleast for the mostp art. It is just a bunch of people crying sexist and making up gentic altercations in their heads. My opinion is mere fact theirs is speculation.

By saying your opinion is fact doesn't make it an opinion.

Male Shep is possibly physically superior but so much so that it would make a difference. They are obviously close enough that most situations can be handled the same way. The only true difference is paragon and renegade. I prefer it that way since it makes things less complicated.

Ok then I'll be more clear.

My opinion is based of facts and not jargon I am making up as I go along like most in this thread. Men and Women are different. If anything it is sexist the they make femshep just like male shep.

There are so many obvious faults in almost all these disagreements.

Miranda even states all your talent is natural.

Talent. Talent is not physical prowess or the strength of an implant. Shepard also said that they noticed a few "upgrades", implying that they were . . . upgraded. Feasibly, part of that could be strength. That being said, it is speculation and you're right, concrete evidence that is available suggests male Shepards are stronger. However, like I said in my previous post, it is clearly on a small scale due to what femshep has done so far and she is just as capable in every situation we've seen, so there's really no reason to change it when resources would have to be spent. 

[Jeth Prime]

Sundance31us wrote...

Only if they include a scene where maleShep passes a 9 lb baby out of his....

Shwarzenegger's already done this.

[SpEcIaLRyAn]

You really should reword the OP. When you say superior it sounds like your being sexist.

[Jeth Prime]

Clonedzero wrote...

femshep should get her time of the month one mission so all dialogue options are renegade

That's one thing the reapers didn't acount for.

[Brand New]

looloolooigotsomeapples wrote...

Brand New wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Brand New wrote...

There is no logical disagreement or atleast for the mostp art. It is just a bunch of people crying sexist and making up gentic altercations in their heads. My opinion is mere fact theirs is speculation.

By saying your opinion is fact doesn't make it an opinion.

Male Shep is possibly physically superior but so much so that it would make a difference. They are obviously close enough that most situations can be handled the same way. The only true difference is paragon and renegade. I prefer it that way since it makes things less complicated.

Ok then I'll be more clear.

My opinion is based of facts and not jargon I am making up as I go along like most in this thread. Men and Women are different. If anything it is sexist the they make femshep just like male shep.

There are so many obvious faults in almost all these disagreements.

Miranda even states all your talent is natural.

Talent. Talent is not physical prowess or the strength of an implant. Shepard also said that they noticed a few "upgrades", implying that they were . . . upgraded. Feasibly, part of that could be strength. That being said, it is speculation and you're right, concrete evidence that is available suggests male Shepards are stronger. However, like I said in my previous post, it is clearly on a small scale due to what femshep has done so far and she is just as capable in every situation we've seen, so there's really no reason to change it when resources would have to be spent. 

Capable because this was never taken into consideration. Herp Derp.
You obviously can't base their strenthgh on cutscenes etc in past games when the argument is that it should have een different and should be in this game.

[Dionkey]

Wow, all of you people beating on OP are being idealistic and close-minded. Male Shepard will always be physically superior to FemShep. The point about the Lazarus project is irrelevant because they both got the same upgrades. For example; when Grunt slams Shepard up against the crate in the cargo area, a Female Shepard would have a lot of more trouble getting out of that than a male Shepard and should thus use different tactics.

Not sexist in the least, it's a proven scientific fact that males are built stronger than females. This doesn't mean FemShep is any weaker mentally or less capable than MaleShep.

Modifié par Dionkey, 16 août 2011 - 06:57 .

[Sundance31us]

Jeth Prime wrote...
Shwarzenegger's already done this.

Yeah, I heard things were bad in California.

[Jeth Prime]

Dionkey wrote...

Wow, all of you people beating on OP are being idealistic and close-minded. Male Shepard will always be physically superior to FemShep. The point about the Lazarus project is irrelevant because they both got the same upgrades. For example; when Grunt slams Shepard up against the crate in the cargo area, a Female Shepard would have a lot of more trouble getting out of that than a male Shepard and should thus use different tactics.

Not sexist in the least, it's a proven scientific fact that males are built stronger than females. This doesn't mean FemShep is any weaker mentally or less capable than MaleShep.

Leverage would factor in as well.

Edit: In regard to the difference in size of a male and female Shepard.

Modifié par Jeth Prime, 16 août 2011 - 07:01 .

[1136342t54_]

Brand New wrote...

Capable because this was never taken into consideration. Herp Derp.
You obviously can't base their strenthgh on cutscenes etc in past games when the argument is that it should have een different and should be in this game.

Yes you can. Its obviously Bioware wants Male shep and Fem shep to be as close as possible in skill level, physical capabilities, talent etc.

Just because you think it should be done a different way doesn't make it the truth. You have little evidence to suggest that Fem shep and Male shep are significantly different that they need entirely different cutscenes to show how they get by certain problems.

[Inspectre]

1136342t54 wrote...

Just because you think it should be done a different way doesn't make it the truth. You have little evidence to suggest that Fem shep and Male shep are significantly different that they need entirely different cutscenes to show how they get by certain problems.

His arms are twice as big, and he only has equal strength?


As someone who plays one shep, and she's female, I completely agree with OP.
I had to facepalm at several instances: the yahg fight, the turian in Samara's mission, the krogan headbutt, ect.

[Arppis]

Kasai666 wrote...

After the Lazerus Project, they are the same.

Didn't see her gaining same body size as male Shepard did, so no they aren't. Human male have more muscle structure than females do anyhows. It's just the way it is and would be nice to see this getting reflected on the gameplay. But on other hand, it's nice that females get equal chances. I just wish women would buy us guys meals and open some doors for us in return...

Modifié par Arppis, 16 août 2011 - 07:18 .

[1136342t54_]

Dragon XIX wrote...

His arms are twice as big, and he only has equal strength?


As someone who plays one shep, and she's female, I completely agree with OP.
I had to facepalm at several instances: the yahg fight, the turian in Samara's mission, the krogan headbutt, ect.

Doesn't matter much with both Cybernetic and genetic enhancements mixed in with military training.

[Jeth Prime]

Dragon XIX wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Just because you think it should be done a different way doesn't make it the truth. You have little evidence to suggest that Fem shep and Male shep are significantly different that they need entirely different cutscenes to show how they get by certain problems.

His arms are twice as big, and he only has equal strength?


As someone who plays one shep, and she's female, I completely agree with OP.
I had to facepalm at several instances: the yahg fight, the turian in Samara's mission, the krogan headbutt, ect.

Reason!!!! I didn't think I'd see this.

[Jeth Prime]

1136342t54 wrote...

Dragon XIX wrote...

His arms are twice as big, and he only has equal strength?


As someone who plays one shep, and she's female, I completely agree with OP.
I had to facepalm at several instances: the yahg fight, the turian in Samara's mission, the krogan headbutt, ect.

Doesn't matter much with both Cybernetic and genetic enhancements mixed in with military training.

One would assume that more mass, would mean more strength. Onless FemShep's enhancements are superior.

[bleetman]

Brand New wrote...

There is no logical disagreement or atleast for the mostp art. It is just a bunch of people crying sexist and making up gentic altercations in their heads. My opinion is mere fact theirs is speculation.

Right. If you say so.

[diskoh]

Sheploo should be in the mess hall making femshep a sandwich. He's weak.

[Sunnie]

Not.This.Subject.Again

Well, you know, apes are generally stronger than women are... Gorillaloo is no exception.