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How to best implement same-sex romance in ME3?


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Humanoid_Typhoon

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Sundance31us wrote...

AnAccountWithNoName wrote...
*shakes his fist towards the heavens, crying out how far we have fallen, misses the good old days where threads did not go off topic multiple times*

Tis a myth, threads have gone off-topic since the dawn of time. ;)

Probably the worst choice of words ever to start a thread on.

"The problem with same-sex romance in ME3....is not that I think it is a problem,but that I want to know how it will be implemented."

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 17 août 2011 - 03:45 .


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Is it possible to have someone that isn't the OP change it to "How to best implement same-sex romance in ME3" ?

Would cut the troll count.

Edit: Wow that actually worked. 

Modifié par Davie McG, 17 août 2011 - 04:12 .


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I'd like to start by congratulating the OP for making a perfectly sensible post, thought yeah, the title may ruffle a few feathers. Hopefully nobody's gotten too jumpy about this (you know who you are... <3)

(also sorry I keep posting on threads I see my friends posting in, it's the only way I keep up with anything going on in these threads these days, I swear I'm not stalking you guys >.>)

Now, I believe it's been stated that you, the player, will have to initiate any romantic contact. I'm guessing this goes for brand-new relationships (IE, ones that can be started in ME3, not active player-pursued romances that will carry over from the other two games). I also imagine that, given the community backlash over every little thing, there will be some obvious indication that you are about to initiate romance-connected dialogue.

So really, as long as it's a well-done relationship sequence, it should be implemented just fine. You'll be the one in control of it, if twitter and dev posts that I think I remember seeing are to be believed. Ultimately you'll be in control of what you see and don't see, via the game dialogue and how you steer it.

I'd also like to bring up the point that a character's orientation could be different from game to game. Ideally I'd like to think that we're past the idea of gender-restricted relationships, and that we're basing our values on the personality of a character rather than their genitals. But aside from that, a character's orientation is exclusive to your run of the game. I may choose to pursue a relationship with Miranda, for example. For all intents and purposes, it is a homosexual relationship in my game. This doesn't suddenly mean Miranda is bisexual. In your game, she may be straight as an arrow. This is especially so, if we are indeed the ones to start a relationship.

Modifié par Crimmsonwind, 17 août 2011 - 04:14 .


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I love how changing the title stopped the bloodrage.

Bravo.

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Davie McG wrote...

I'm not opposed to same sex romance, it's just how to implement it that proves divisive.


Does the same issue exist with o/s romance?

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Make 'em all bi.

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Make 'em all bi.


OMG! My immersion! Retcon! Retcon I say!

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The best way to include same-sex romance is to MAN UP at the VERY BEGINNING of the series and include homosexual romances romances right alongside the heterosexual romances like it's no big deal.

:mellow:

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jlb524 wrote...

Davie McG wrote...

I'm not opposed to same sex romance, it's just how to implement it that proves divisive.


Does the same issue exist with o/s romance?

Psh everyone knows o/s romances are impervious to implementation issues. It's only the gay ones that need to be bubble wrapped otherwise it might just swoop down on some people.

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jlb524 wrote...

Davie McG wrote...

I'm not opposed to same sex romance, it's just how to implement it that proves divisive.


Does the same issue exist with o/s romance?


It doesn't no. Although o/s has already been implemented so a discussion on how to implement it wouldn't be very much use. Though I gather your point was that it wasn't divisive for o/s so why should it be for s/s?

Well there was a multiple page discussion about it, not an indication that everyone is in agreement on the matter.

Edit: It may be worth noting it was divisive enough for the o/s romance to make the news back in 2007 I think it was. Granted that was due to idiots on fox news station that claimed it was a porn game about space sex with aliens.

Modifié par Davie McG, 17 août 2011 - 05:07 .


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octoberfire wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Davie McG wrote...

I'm not opposed to same sex romance, it's just how to implement it that proves divisive.


Does the same issue exist with o/s romance?

Psh everyone knows o/s romances are impervious to implementation issues. It's only the gay ones that need to be bubble wrapped otherwise it might just swoop down on some people.


SWOOPING IS BAD /Varric

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Davie McG wrote...

It doesn't no. Although o/s has already been implemented so a discussion on how to implement it wouldn't be very much use. Though I gather your point was that it wasn't divisive for o/s so why should it be for s/s?

Well there was a multiple page discussion about it, not an indication that everyone is in agreement on the matter.


But o/s will be implemented in ME3.

S/S was implemented in ME1/ME2.

So both are up for discussion in ME3.  There are plenty that don't like o/s ninjamances.

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jlb524 wrote...

Davie McG wrote...

It doesn't no. Although o/s has already been implemented so a discussion on how to implement it wouldn't be very much use. Though I gather your point was that it wasn't divisive for o/s so why should it be for s/s?

Well there was a multiple page discussion about it, not an indication that everyone is in agreement on the matter.


But o/s will be implemented in ME3.

S/S was implemented in ME1/ME2.

So both are up for discussion in ME3.  There are plenty that don't like o/s ninjamances.


That's true. Ninjamance is never good. I'm not the OP though so talk about what ever you want, its a free internet.

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jlb524 wrote...

Davie McG wrote...

It doesn't no. Although o/s has already been implemented so a discussion on how to implement it wouldn't be very much use. Though I gather your point was that it wasn't divisive for o/s so why should it be for s/s?

Well there was a multiple page discussion about it, not an indication that everyone is in agreement on the matter.


But o/s will be implemented in ME3.

S/S was implemented in ME1/ME2.

So both are up for discussion in ME3.  There are plenty that don't like o/s ninjamances.

If you read the OP he said he was avoiding o/s ninjamances as well.


And as to why o/s isn't as a big an issue as s/s? it is easier to deal with a flock of angry s/s advocates then it is the hordes opposed to it.

Mankind is a stupid backwards species,doesn't make it right I know, but change is slow,but this is beside the point of the topic.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 17 août 2011 - 05:15 .


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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

And as to why o/s isn't as a big an issue as s/s? it is easier to deal with a flock of angry s/s advocates then it is the hordes opposed to it.

Mankind is a stupid backwards species,doesn't make it right I know, but change is slow,but this is beside the point of the topic.


That's my point.

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Make 'em all bi.


Let's get to it.

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The reaper's have a comically titled "gay ray" aimed dead center at Shep's libido.

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Question
how best to implement same sex romance in me3?
answer dont know but theres already a thread for all same sex discusions here's a link to it  http://social.biowar...-7625505-1.html

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Ok... so because Thane had a wife and a son is imposible for him to be bisexual or homosexual. My neighbor thinks otherwise.

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mauro2222 wrote...

Ok... so because Thane had a wife and a son is imposible for him to be bisexual or homosexual. My neighbor thinks otherwise.


Yeah, I really hate that argument. Bisexuals don't suddenly become strictly hetoersexual or homosexual when they choose to enter a committed relationship. If Thane is bisexual in ME3, it'll be because he was always bisexual, but simply didn't flirt with male Shepard for whatever reason.

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mauro2222 wrote...

Ok... so because Thane had a wife and a son is imposible for him to be bisexual or homosexual. My neighbor thinks otherwise.


Wasn't thane supposed to bisexual in the beginning? I remember reading that he was...unless it was just a rumour.

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double post

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 17 août 2011 - 06:55 .


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It's not like s/s romances were never implemented before.

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i think LI's should be used sparingly. or else normandy is loveboat.

also, isnt it a bit backwards to force a straight character to be gay?

Modifié par Hellbound555, 17 août 2011 - 07:07 .


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Hellbound555 wrote...

i think LI's should be used sparingly. or else normandy is loveboat.

also, isnt it a bit backwards to force a straight character to be gay?


Have you watched any ME3 vids?

Not a loveboat.

'Force' straight characters gay?  Gay =/= bisexual.