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[Arijharn]

Like most people, I think you've missed the entire freakin' point.

[Seboist]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

I've always looked at ME2 as a bridge game, and thought that the ME1 & ME2 decisions would come to fruition in ME3.

Apparently Bioware saw it that way too, which I feel was a mistake. ME2 should have been a true sequel that moved the main plot forward. Instead it was mostly filler and a little set-up.

What else was it going to be?

Lair of the Shadow Broker and Arrival should have been the main plot in the second game, imo.

Arrival would have just been a repeat of the end of ME1.

What they should have done is made it more apparent the three merc groups and the Heretic Geth are in cahoots with the Collectors and shown an armada of Collector ships in or around their main base under construction in the SM. That would have made it more apparent that they were a great threat to the Earth and the galaxy as a whole.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

I think the thing renegades hates it the "No good deed..." approach to paragons, you get to see more stuff as a paragon,I guess that might hurt...

[Gabey5]

why would you be "pro human" anyway? is that not a given.. shepard knows the reapers are coming and that humans cannot do it alone, having alien friends and their fleets would do wonders and if "kissing alien ass" is what it takes than shepard would do it, he and all his soldiers are taking bullets for humanity, our pride is of no consequence

[khordlambert]

Arijharn wrote...

Like most people, I think you've missed the entire freakin' point.

Quite the opposite. I got the, as you put it, "freaking point". So called Renegades are upset that Paragons got more content then they did. If the content was anything meaningful I'd be inclined to agree, but the complaints are just whiny. They didn't get to tal to people, boo freakity hoo.

If it's the constant griping that the Paragon's get "Unrealistic" breaks in their decisions, well guess what? So do we. On Zuh's hope the renagade decision is to gun down a colony of civilians, even though we had an alternative option avalable with the gas grenades. That ALONE would've had Shepard put on trial in a more "realistic" setting.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Gabey5 wrote...

why would you be "pro human" anyway? is that not a given.. shepard knows the reapers are coming and that humans cannot do it alone, having alien friends and their fleets would do wonders and if "kissing alien ass" is what it takes than shepard would do it, he and all his soldiers are taking bullets for humanity, our pride is of no consequence

Rule #1. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns.

[Seboist]

Gabey5 wrote...

why would you be "pro human" anyway? is that not a given.. shepard knows the reapers are coming and that humans cannot do it alone, having alien friends and their fleets would do wonders and if "kissing alien ass" is what it takes than shepard would do it, he and all his soldiers are taking bullets for humanity, our pride is of no consequence

You do realize that the whole point of Shepard becoming a spectre in the first place was to advance human interests,no?

Besides if the ME series was better concieved like DA:O was there would have been aliens more receptive to a Renegade Shepard.

Modifié par Seboist, 18 août 2011 - 05:21 .

[khordlambert]

Seboist wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

why would you be "pro human" anyway? is that not a given.. shepard knows the reapers are coming and that humans cannot do it alone, having alien friends and their fleets would do wonders and if "kissing alien ass" is what it takes than shepard would do it, he and all his soldiers are taking bullets for humanity, our pride is of no consequence

You do realize that the whole point of Shepard becoming a spectre in the first place was to advance human interests,no?

Besides if the ME series was better concieved like DA:O was there would have been aliens more receptive to a Renegade Shepard.

Krogan.

[Gabey5]

Seboist wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

why would you be "pro human" anyway? is that not a given.. shepard knows the reapers are coming and that humans cannot do it alone, having alien friends and their fleets would do wonders and if "kissing alien ass" is what it takes than shepard would do it, he and all his soldiers are taking bullets for humanity, our pride is of no consequence

You do realize that the whole point of Shepard becoming a spectre in the first place was to advance human interests,no?

Besides if the ME series was better concieved like DA:O was there would have been aliens more receptive to a Renegade Shepard.

yes that was me1 now that we know of the threat and its magnitude, even someone like the illusive man would have to recognize that it would take ever  warship in the galaxy to take to the reapers.

[Seboist]

khordlambert wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

why would you be "pro human" anyway? is that not a given.. shepard knows the reapers are coming and that humans cannot do it alone, having alien friends and their fleets would do wonders and if "kissing alien ass" is what it takes than shepard would do it, he and all his soldiers are taking bullets for humanity, our pride is of no consequence

You do realize that the whole point of Shepard becoming a spectre in the first place was to advance human interests,no?

Besides if the ME series was better concieved like DA:O was there would have been aliens more receptive to a Renegade Shepard.

Krogan.

Yeah, a handful of individuals, big whoop.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Seboist wrote...

Arrival would have just been a repeat of the end of ME1.

Unless it was a deliberate Reaper ploy to force Shepard to destroy the Batarian system and cause political tensions to flare up and distract everyone from their real arrival.

[khordlambert]

Seboist wrote...

khordlambert wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

why would you be "pro human" anyway? is that not a given.. shepard knows the reapers are coming and that humans cannot do it alone, having alien friends and their fleets would do wonders and if "kissing alien ass" is what it takes than shepard would do it, he and all his soldiers are taking bullets for humanity, our pride is of no consequence

You do realize that the whole point of Shepard becoming a spectre in the first place was to advance human interests,no?

Besides if the ME series was better concieved like DA:O was there would have been aliens more receptive to a Renegade Shepard.

Krogan.

Yeah, a handful of individuals, big whoop.

It's still what you asked for. Aliens more receptive to renegades. Don't start moving the goalposts cheerleader.

[khordlambert]

Double post. My bad.

Modifié par khordlambert, 18 août 2011 - 05:32 .

[Seboist]

khordlambert wrote...

Seboist wrote...

khordlambert wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

why would you be "pro human" anyway? is that not a given.. shepard knows the reapers are coming and that humans cannot do it alone, having alien friends and their fleets would do wonders and if "kissing alien ass" is what it takes than shepard would do it, he and all his soldiers are taking bullets for humanity, our pride is of no consequence

You do realize that the whole point of Shepard becoming a spectre in the first place was to advance human interests,no?

Besides if the ME series was better concieved like DA:O was there would have been aliens more receptive to a Renegade Shepard.

Krogan.

Yeah, a handful of individuals, big whoop.

It's still what you asked for. Aliens more receptive to renegades. Don't start moving the goalposts cheerleader.

I want my Shepard to make allies based on her strategic decisions not throw away dialogue that leads to the same outcome as the Paragon one.

[khordlambert]

Seboist wrote...

khordlambert wrote...

Seboist wrote...

khordlambert wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

why would you be "pro human" anyway? is that not a given.. shepard knows the reapers are coming and that humans cannot do it alone, having alien friends and their fleets would do wonders and if "kissing alien ass" is what it takes than shepard would do it, he and all his soldiers are taking bullets for humanity, our pride is of no consequence

You do realize that the whole point of Shepard becoming a spectre in the first place was to advance human interests,no?

Besides if the ME series was better concieved like DA:O was there would have been aliens more receptive to a Renegade Shepard.

Krogan.

Yeah, a handful of individuals, big whoop.

It's still what you asked for. Aliens more receptive to renegades. Don't start moving the goalposts cheerleader.

I want my Shepard to make allies based on her strategic decisions not throw away dialogue that leads to the same outcome as the Paragon one.

If you want to make allies then play Paragon. Renegade doesn't have a lot of time for such matters.

[Seboist]

khordlambert wrote...

Seboist wrote...

khordlambert wrote...

Seboist wrote...

khordlambert wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

why would you be "pro human" anyway? is that not a given.. shepard knows the reapers are coming and that humans cannot do it alone, having alien friends and their fleets would do wonders and if "kissing alien ass" is what it takes than shepard would do it, he and all his soldiers are taking bullets for humanity, our pride is of no consequence

You do realize that the whole point of Shepard becoming a spectre in the first place was to advance human interests,no?

Besides if the ME series was better concieved like DA:O was there would have been aliens more receptive to a Renegade Shepard.

Krogan.

Yeah, a handful of individuals, big whoop.

It's still what you asked for. Aliens more receptive to renegades. Don't start moving the goalposts cheerleader.

I want my Shepard to make allies based on her strategic decisions not throw away dialogue that leads to the same outcome as the Paragon one.

If you want to make allies then play Paragon. Renegade doesn't have a lot of time for such matters.

Great lack of imagination you've shown there.

The following Renegade decisions should have won points for certain alien species,

Sacrifice the Council: Quarians,Krogan and Batarians should have been delighted to see an entity that has caused them grief go.

Killing Rachni Queen: Once again Krogans should be delighted.

Destroying Heretics: More points won in the eyes of the Quarians.

But since the two morality paths are poorly thought out decisions exist in complete vacuums from each other and one path gets to have it's cake and eat it while the other merely exists to hide the story's linearity and is for the lulz.

When it comes to real decisions and outcomes DA:O > the entire ME franchise by a freaking landslide.

[Arijharn]

Being a renegade should not mean you get less content. I don't think getting equal amounts of content (although obviously not the same content) is a bit of an unrealistic whinge either. It's a false dilemma to say otherwise, because as Dean has argued; just because random person A gives you something, doesn't mean you can't get random person B instead.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Luc0s wrote...

DeathDragon185 wrote...

keeping collector base is more pro-galaxy because it will help fight the reapers. I think it should have been switched

How is DOING EXACTLY WHAT TIM ASK, which is keeping the collector base to GIVE IT TO CERBERUS pro-galaxy?

It's the most pro-human decision in the entire game! It's pro-human to the core!


Derp.

I don't care what anyone says it is pro-Cerberus.
Even if/when tech from it goes to humanity,it is still from Cerberus,so at the very least is pro-Cerberus first,then humanity. (presuming anything comes of it)

[Seboist]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

DeathDragon185 wrote...

keeping collector base is more pro-galaxy because it will help fight the reapers. I think it should have been switched

How is DOING EXACTLY WHAT TIM ASK, which is keeping the collector base to GIVE IT TO CERBERUS pro-galaxy?

It's the most pro-human decision in the entire game! It's pro-human to the core!


Derp.

I don't care what anyone says it is pro-Cerberus.
Even if/when tech from it goes to humanity,it is still from Cerberus,so at the very least is pro-Cerberus first,then humanity. (presuming anything comes of it)

They're one in the same. Strength for Cerberus is strength for every human.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Seboist wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

DeathDragon185 wrote...

keeping collector base is more pro-galaxy because it will help fight the reapers. I think it should have been switched

How is DOING EXACTLY WHAT TIM ASK, which is keeping the collector base to GIVE IT TO CERBERUS pro-galaxy?

It's the most pro-human decision in the entire game! It's pro-human to the core!


Derp.

I don't care what anyone says it is pro-Cerberus.
Even if/when tech from it goes to humanity,it is still from Cerberus,so at the very least is pro-Cerberus first,then humanity. (presuming anything comes of it)

They're one in the same. Strength for Cerberus is strength for every human.

If I were an internet tough guy I would threaten to smack you.:bandit:Smartass.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 18 août 2011 - 06:56 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

Luc0s wrote...

DeathDragon185 wrote...

keeping collector base is more pro-galaxy because it will help fight the reapers. I think it should have been switched

How is DOING EXACTLY WHAT TIM ASK, which is keeping the collector base to GIVE IT TO CERBERUS pro-galaxy?

It's the most pro-human decision in the entire game! It's pro-human to the core!

I'ts pro-galaxy. Cause you want to use that tech to SAVE THE GALAXY.

[Homebound]

a too pro-human stance is too aggressive and is just not practical with all the life out there in the mass effect universe. it comes off as short-sighted and is a quick fix for a longterm issue.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

Hellbound555 wrote...

a too pro-human stance is too aggressive and is just not practical with all the life out there in the mass effect universe. it comes off as short-sighted and is a quick fix for a longterm issue.

I think realistically if it were to go down like that,pro-human would be the most likely way to go,it;s fear,we are the new kids on the we don't want to sit in the back of the bus with the uncool kids,we want to be with the council driving our own fricken car.