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[Aaleel]

Aradace wrote...

Deylar wrote...

Foryou wrote...

You can't really advertise RPG stuff. You get to set your stats for this power doesn't really have the same ring as you can make a vortex

Skyrim seemed to do well advertising RPG stuff alongside combat.

I don't know my feelings of ME3. Being disappointed in DA2, I fear for ME3.

You realize it's two different teams that write ME and DA right?

 

But Bioware has shown they're going in a certain direction, streamlining the games and trying to make them appeal to as many different groups of people as possible.  I haven't seen enough yet, but I just wish they would show more than combat content.  We've seen combat with the same two squad mates, and that's it.

So you have people saying OK, but what's behind door number two, and understandably so, especially is combat is not the most important feature in a game to them.

But I'll agree it's too early for this question to be asked, with the game what 7 months off.

Modifié par Aaleel, 17 août 2011 - 05:32 .

[Jussylein]

4 Players Germany is not as enthusiastic about the Mass Effect 3 is only one grade Note 2, it is not good marketing by Bioware, it would be a kind CallofMass Effect, and he is tired, the only action is shown and no dialogues, I think Bioware Marketing and EA simply terrible, they are alienating so many fans

http://www.4players....m_die_Erde.html

[Deylar]

Aradace wrote...

Deylar wrote...

Foryou wrote...

You can't really advertise RPG stuff. You get to set your stats for this power doesn't really have the same ring as you can make a vortex

Skyrim seemed to do well advertising RPG stuff alongside combat.

I don't know my feelings of ME3. Being disappointed in DA2, I fear for ME3.

You realize it's two different teams that write ME and DA right?

The company has changed. Just because they are different people doesn't mean they aren't from the same company. And the companies values have changed. They are following a new model. A model I do not agree with.

I am just being cautious of ME3 and not making the same mistakes.

[Legbiter]

No.

[Aradace]

@Deylar - Make no mistake, I agree with your points. And there are certain "aspects" Im going to be a bit skittish of myself until I see them in full swing in the actual game. (S/S romances as I stated before are my main concern and even used DA2 as an example inthis department myself.) But until I know for sure, Im going to try and "think positive" about the aspects that I like so far about ME3 and not worry too much about the things I dont until I see how they come together in the full game.

[Jussylein]

Biowares and EA Marketing is sooo terrible The German Press is not so Enthuastic, i wish not al Callofmassefft Duty, Action Action, thats is so sad Really.

[Genshie]

Aradace wrote...

Genshie wrote...

Aradace wrote...

@Genshie - *smiles* really? Its hard to compare them? You better take a look at the new cover system one more time and then take a good long look at Gear's.

As far as Gear's not having a story, I find it funny that you think it's funny.  While it's not the greatest story ever, I'll admit, it's still a "decent" one if you actually pay attention to it.

I am not just talking about cover system and you did exactly what most people are doing only comparing one aspect when Mass Effect has to cover more than Gears has ever had to cover. .

Actually, if you read my posts where I actually make those comparisons, (and I mean actually READ them and not skim) youll see that Im only comparing that single aspect to Gears and not comparing the ENTIRE GAME to Gears.  Those are conclusions you jumped to on your own Im afraid.  Someone comparing a Mech to Halo or some other game ISNT comparing the entirety of ME to Halo.  Again, conclusions you jumped to of your own accord.

 And you realized that you yourself did the samething to my post right? I did mention to all those people are comparing similarities not just the stupid Mech **** that you skimmed through on my own post. I was directing it to all the people who have been comparing it to those titles not just that one mech. Here is a small list that people and including yourself have probably seen time and again who keep comparing **** to other series from the three mentioned titles, Omniblade= people compare it to the Halo's Convenant Engery Blade (when holy crap this energy sword idea was picked up much ages before Halo even thought of it), Starcraft's Space Marine and Halo's Spartans compared to the Spectres, the very cover system YOU keep bringing up from Gears (which mind you Gears was not the first to do this, they may have improved upon it but its not perfect),  and even Halo's Warhog to the recent Atlus, which makes me sigh since they are nothing alike.

[Aradace]

@Geshie - *shakes head* I never said GoW cover system was perfect. It's damn close. But whether you choose to believe it or not, its one of the standards to which most modern cover systems are held to. But that's not the point. Even those folks who are making comaparisons to the omniblade etc. They're comparing ONE aspect that they see. Not the game in its entirety. If you dont like the references being made, use your mouse and by all means leave the thread.

People make comparisons to things they can relate and associate with. Just because they're not making the references YOU would make, doesnt make them any less valid.

[Deylar]

Aradace wrote...

@Deylar - Make no mistake, I agree with your points. And there are certain "aspects" Im going to be a bit skittish of myself until I see them in full swing in the actual game. (S/S romances as I stated before are my main concern and even used DA2 as an example inthis department myself.) But until I know for sure, Im going to try and "think positive" about the aspects that I like so far about ME3 and not worry too much about the things I dont until I see how they come together in the full game.

I'm both excited and afraid. It's a mixture of both hope and doubt.

 

jreezy wrote...
Following a new model? What are you talking about?

I remember a few months back when DA2 came out. And the fans were crying out fowl. And making criticism. I remember, yes maybe not the same developers, but them basically saying the customers didn't know what they wanted. I also left this board a while because I found honestely some of the staff responses to the members on this site appalling to say the least.

Press a button and something awesome happens.

[Genshie]

Aradace wrote...

@Geshie - *shakes head* I never said GoW cover system was perfect. It's damn close. But whether you choose to believe it or not, its one of the standards to which most modern cover systems are held to. But that's not the point. Even those folks who are making comaparisons to the omniblade etc. They're comparing ONE aspect that they see. Not the game in its entirety. If you dont like the references being made, use your mouse and by all means leave the thread.

People make comparisons to things they can relate and associate with. Just because they're not making the references YOU would make, doesnt make them any less valid.

I never said they weren't valid but comparing a game that is pure shooter to every extent and meaning to the label to a game that is more than just pure shooter is just lazy. And I can say the same about leaving to you cause if you think people haven't based it one aspect on its entirety then you are sadly mistaken my friend. Alot of people do comparisions solely on one aspect all the time. And the cover system is one of the main things that I hear that people keep compairing Gears of War to, after the first demo reveal at E3 where the new cover system was shown thats all people screamed about it being a Gears clone when there are plenty of other shooters out there that has done what Gears has done several times over already.

Modifié par Genshie, 17 août 2011 - 06:21 .

[Ricinator]

ME3 i have no doubt will have awesome combat. but when it comes to rpg i think it will be worse than ME2.

[KingDan97]

Deylar wrote...

Foryou wrote...

You can't really advertise RPG stuff. You get to set your stats for this power doesn't really have the same ring as you can make a vortex

Skyrim seemed to do well advertising RPG stuff alongside combat.

I don't know my feelings of ME3. Being disappointed in DA2, I fear for ME3.

Skyrim comes out in November, the first time I saw any RPG element outside of the stat screen was Quakecon. Even that was just the rotation of items and displaying their stats and one conversation, and that was just to make the point of every item being modeled.

Mass effect 3 had demos at E3 with weapon modding, conversations, the unveiling of 2 squadmates, the display of Mordin, Legion and Wrex. And at that point it was 9 months off. We've got months until Mass Effect is at the polination point that Skyrim is at now, and we've already seen a land reaper and the intro of the game.

[Sheepie Crusher]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Sheepie Crusher wrote...

If there is one thing that BioWare and EA were never good, at it is marketing and this is what we are seeing

Remember the awful "Fight For The Lost" trailers

I must be in the minority when I say they're not bad.

Nope. Just look at the comments on youtube. People loved the ME2 trailers.

The people in YouTube like almost evreryhing

[Melra]

I am pessimistic by default. Though most of the footage has seemed alright, still nothing they could show would make me buy the game, if the character(s) that I ''love'' aren't in the game in the quality and quantity that I desire. They can polish it all they like.

[Icinix]

Lady Of Darkness wrote...

Biowares and EA Marketing is sooo terrible The German Press is not so Enthuastic, i wish not al Callofmassefft Duty, Action Action, thats is so sad Really.

I have also begun reading in some Australian publications (actual magazines that have been printing for years), not so much disappointment, but less than enthusiastic reporting.  Thats all come down to marketing though, the problem is you market the combat, the action etc too much, and you'll end up getting compared to the marketing of games like BF3, MF3 even BioShock infirinte etc etc.  When that happens, you start to lose some of the punch of your advertising.

Of course, in a few months when we start seeing trailers / scenes outside of combat the other half of the audience will be crying boredom and that the stuff they're seeing is boring.  So you'll start seeing less than enthusiastic reporting from the other half of publishers.

[Dreadwing 67]

I still do not see how bad trailers = bad game. But if you love the ME series as much as I do, then I can understand being really nervous about how the Game will turn out.

[sirgippy]

Nope, not really. But I am an optimist.

[Aradace]

Dreadwing 67 wrote...

I still do not see how bad trailers = bad game.

Ive never understood this philosophy either.  But meh *shrugs* I'll take their collectors edition if they dont want it 

[shep82]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Take away ME1's story, and it's a sub-par TPS/RPG, even by the standards at the time.

As much as I love ME 1 I agree. I still play it but thats only because of the story and I love creating a new character for my ME 2 save.

[shep82]

Ricinator wrote...

ME3 i have no doubt will have awesome combat. but when it comes to rpg i think it will be worse than ME2.

Me 2 did fine with the rpg elements so will ME 3.

[ReveurIngenu]

Yes, I really feel that ME3 will disappoint me.  I was really disappointed with ME2 and its nonexistant storyline.  What I fear will be the case with ME3 is that I think it will be much too similar to Dragon Age Origins and ME2 in the sense that you know what the "final mission" is just a few hours into the game and you spend the whole game either recruiting or finding allies and preparing for it.

The official description of ME3 pretty much sums it up to rallying races to help you.  Earth is attacked and you have to mount a "final mission" to take it back.  You want the Quarians to help?  Well, you have to solve their problem and find them a home world first!  You want Krogans?  They won't help unless you cure the genophage!  You want Geth?  Free them from whoever they need to be freed from and they'll help you out!

Seriously, the whole freakin' galaxy is at stake and all these races do is worry about their own little problem.  Well, I guess it's only normal that the game is focused on Earth then, right?  I mean, each race only cares about their own little problem and why the hell would humans care about the galaxy when the Earth is being attacked, right?

Plus, I have to admit that I am quite sick with Bioware's storyline.  Find an ally, but ally has a problem, so need to solve that person or that species or that races problem first.  Do this enough times and then final mission.  Wow, can't they come up with another type of storyline for once?  And making it the same length as ME2?  Replace one person from ME2 with
a race in ME3, replace the beginning of ME2 with Earth being attacked
in ME3, and replace taking out the collectors with taking out the Reapers in ME3, and you have ME3!<_<

I will certainly wait for reviews, spoil myself and see just how "spend whole game rallying races then final mission" the game actually is.  But I feel that at best, I'll wait for a price drop. And at worst, I'll skip it altogether.

[Rockworm503]

su66otnik wrote...

jreezy wrote...

su66otnik wrote...

They haven't shown us much yet, so I'm holding my breath. I have quite a lot of confidence in BioWare, so I'm almost positive that Mass Effect 3 will deliver. But I'm not 100% sure - there's this nagging feeling in me. BioWare has already disappointed me gravely once (Dragon Age 2), so they might turn on us and do the same, though I hope they learned their lesson.

I'm sure you know but not ALL of BioWare developed Dragon Age 2. I'm sure Mass Effect 3 will be fine.

And we can only ponder why Dragon Age 2 turned out the way it did, even though it was developed by the same studio behind Dragon Age: Origins. If EA decided the course of BioWare Edmontons development with an ironfist, the studio(s) behind Mass Effect 3 might suffer the same fate.

It will probably be fine, but there's still a slight risk that it might turn out as horribly as DA2.

Actually the fact that they pushed the release date back to next year tells me that EA doesn't want ME3 to end up like DA2
I saw an interview with the EA CEO who said he loves the ME series and he wants it to be the best game it can be << take it for whatever you want it to be but I don't think he's lying.

[Rockworm503]

su66otnik wrote...


Being pessimistic will most likely make you more likely to be positively suprised by the final product. If you expect it to be perfect, it'll be much more easy to find flaws in it, whereas a pessimist might expect a dull affair but end up being swayed by all the good things included.

Well some people have already decided the games gonna suck.  They wont be pleasently surprised when ME3 comes out their going to decide it sucks before they even start it up.
I think he's talking about not letting it get to you no matter how it turns up.
I've had games suck and I was excited for it.  But I move on and hope for something better later.

[Rockworm503]

Xilizhra wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Yes.

I'll more then likely get quite a bit of enjoyment out of it but it's definitely no longer the franchise I fell in love with.

And why is that?

Some pointless reason like loot or the Mako.