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[Yuqi]

 I have not seen a thread on this issue before, so I thought I would start one.

What events/choices do you think will have an impact, on DA3 and future titles.

These are are some of my  main picks:

-Whether you killed,or spared anders.
-Whether you sided with the templars or mages.(That the most obvious one)
-The staus of your warden.

And these are my minor picks:

-The choices regarding issabella inncident.
-Your Warden/Hawke LI.
-The fate of your siblings.

I'm sure there are others, everyone can think of.

How I think they might Impact future titles:

-What side you chose in the end, might determine the factions respect towards you, and how they act.
- The incidet with the Qunari, could have ramifcations.
-Anders is a tricky one,because even if you killed him; it is implied he did not die in the cutscene. So I'm not sure how or if,it will affect things.

NOTE:
THIS IS NOT A THREAD FOR DA2 BASHING,OR CRITISIM.

Modifié par Yuqi, 17 août 2011 - 03:41 .

[Shadow Fox]

If it is implemented it will most likely just be your characters class and gender, the mage/templar choice and how you dealt with the Qunari*sent Isabella off with them or fought them* from DA2

Modifié par Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke, 17 août 2011 - 04:39 .

[Saberchic]

Does DA3 need an import? It seems that the world is pretty set on a certain course. I'm sure they could do a quick few questions for the player to answer in the beginning to customize the story.

[Mike3207]

I'd imagine the Warden being gone would have a very large impact in Ferelden on the King/Queen consort path. It's not only the political ramifications, but how the common people felt about the Warden.

[Yuqi]

Saberchic wrote...

Does DA3 need an import? It seems that the world is pretty set on a certain course. I'm sure they could do a quick few questions for the player to answer in the beginning to customize the story.

I suppose they could, but then what descisions are deemed important enough, for those questions?

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

If it is implemented it will most likely just be your characters class and gender, the mage/templar choice and how you dealt with the Qunari*sent Isabella off with them or fought them* from DA2

Hmmn that  seems a bit harsh. It might make playing origins deemed worthless.
If some plotflags are carried in DA2, like allistars status; wouldent that mean it would also be carried over to DA3?

Mike Smith wrote...

I'd imagine the Warden being gone would have a very large impact in Ferelden on the King/Queen consort path. It's not only the political ramifications, but how the common people felt about the Warden.

I never thought of that lol.
But would the ramifacations extend outside of Feralden?

Modifié par Yuqi, 17 août 2011 - 05:03 .

[Saberchic]

Yuqi wrote...

Saberchic wrote...

Does DA3 need an import? It seems that the world is pretty set on a certain course. I'm sure they could do a quick few questions for the player to answer in the beginning to customize the story.

I suppose they could, but then what descisions are deemed important enough, for those questions?

Who Hawke sided with in the end and who is ruling Ferelden... maybe if the warden survived the blight or not.

To be honest, it didn't seem like a lot of decisions from DAO had a great impact on DA2. Some influenced which side quests you got or where some of the cameos appeared (I'm thinking of Alistair here), but the majority didn't seem to make a huge impact.

[Dave of Canada]

Dark Ritual's hints in DA2 suggests everybody will return "like they were", I'd doubt that'd be ignored.

EVERYBODY MAGES.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 17 août 2011 - 05:25 .

[T3H Fish]

I would think the flags from Origins would play a bigger role in DA3, if they carry over in a DA2 save file, as well as Hawke's decisions in DA2. Since DA2 was so focused on Kirkwall as the entire setting, what was going on in Ferelden (and the rest of Thedas) really had no impact, aside from the cameos and other tid-bits that showed up.

I hope with DLC, they won't have the same problem with flags not triggering correctly like what happens with Awakening and other DLC save imports

[Andraste_Reborn]

David Gaider stated (sorry, I don't have a link to the thread) that Anders is dead if you killed him. Of course, that won't necessarily stop BioWare resurrecting him if they feel it helps the plot along, but the intention is that he dies if you stab him with your murder knife.

There aren't actually that many decisions in DA2 that I can see being referenced in the sequel - whether Hawke sided with the Templars or the mages, the endgame states of his/her companions and the fate of Feynriel are the main ones. And the results of any interactions with Charade. (I just have a feeling we haven't seen the last of her.)

What I'm hoping is that fewer import flags will lead to better importing, and more impact from the individual choices.

Modifié par Andrastee, 17 août 2011 - 09:44 .

[t0mm06]

slightly off topic, but i think instead of having the preset 3 choice to choose from Or import a save, they should have the import data then something that is like the gibbed DAO generator mod, where you have a few pages of choices that could have been made, i thought this is better as i lost my game saves for Origins before i played DA2 so i had to play origins and awakening again to get the save i wanted.

[Saberchic]

t0mm06 wrote...

slightly off topic, but i think instead of having the preset 3 choice to choose from Or import a save, they should have the import data then something that is like the gibbed DAO generator mod, where you have a few pages of choices that could have been made, i thought this is better as i lost my game saves for Origins before i played DA2 so i had to play origins and awakening again to get the save i wanted.

While I feel bad for people in your situation, if they included an import generator like that for the game, it would discourage newer players from buying the older games. Besides, I think there should be some sort of bonus for people who played the previous game(s) and import into the new one.

I can't really see them doing anything more than what they did with DA2.

@Dave: I think the "Everybody Mages!" will be happening regardess of the fact if the dark ritual was done or not. 

[Urzon]

The favor the Warden recieved at the DA:O possibly has to be the biggest. A free circle tower, new elven homeland, and clearing out a portion of the deep roads (if you sided with Bhelen). While minor changes would mostly revolve around who you sided with in origins.

DAII is alot harder to choose from. Like you said, which side you pick at the end, and if you decide to kill Anders has to be the biggest. The only real other thing that comes to mind is what you did to Feynriel.

If you sent him to Tevinter, he sends you a letter saying how he understands why the templars do what they do in Kirkwall. Since his master killed a rival in public duel. Maker knows how much damage dueling magisters can do in public surrounded by passerbys. So maybe powerful!Good!Magister Feynriel in DAIII?

[T3H Fish]

Urzon wrote...

The favor the Warden recieved at the DA:O possibly has to be the biggest. A free circle tower, new elven homeland, and clearing out a portion of the deep roads (if you sided with Bhelen). While minor changes would mostly revolve around who you sided with in origins.

DAII is alot harder to choose from. Like you said, which side you pick at the end, and if you decide to kill Anders has to be the biggest. The only real other thing that comes to mind is what you did to Feynriel.

If you sent him to Tevinter, he sends you a letter saying how he understands why the templars do what they do in Kirkwall. Since his master killed a rival in public duel. Maker knows how much damage dueling magisters can do in public surrounded by passerbys. So maybe powerful!Good!Magister Feynriel in DAIII?

That would actually be pretty awesome if Feynriel reappears as a 'good' Magister in DA3, if you chose to send him to Tevinter to seek training.

[Faust1979]

They should just drop the import stuff if you aren't really building a game around it. It works with Mass Effect, but with Dragon Age and Dragon Age 2 it was pretty much all new characters with a few cameo's that didn't really matter all that much they could have been left out and it wouldn't of mattered much to the game.

[Yuqi]

Faust1979 wrote...

They should just drop the import stuff if you aren't really building a game around it. It works with Mass Effect, but with Dragon Age and Dragon Age 2 it was pretty much all new characters with a few cameo's that didn't really matter all that much they could have been left out and it wouldn't of mattered much to the game.

It would have mattered a great deal, to those who played origins. TO leave out the import system would be bad, because then, noen of the choices in game would matter in the next game,and  so on.

The backlash would also be  horrendus. The best way to do it,would be to let a seeker question someone,perhaps varric? and ask them about the choices. And consolidate the choices from the previous games.

Dave of Canada wrote...

Dark Ritual's hints in DA2 suggests everybody will return "like they were", I'd doubt that'd be ignored.

EVERYBODY MAGES.

Or it could forshadow the return of the old gods,perhaps. Or a world without darkspawn.Hard to say.

Saberchic wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

Saberchic wrote...

Does DA3 need an import? It seems that the world is pretty set on a certain course. I'm sure they could do a quick few questions for the player to answer in the beginning to customize the story.

I suppose they could, but then what descisions are deemed important enough, for those questions?

Who Hawke sided with in the end and who is ruling Ferelden... maybe if the warden survived the blight or not.

To be honest, it didn't seem like a lot of decisions from DAO had a great impact on DA2. Some influenced which side quests you got or where some of the cameos appeared (I'm thinking of Alistair here), but the majority didn't seem to make a huge impact. 

I noticed this too,and some imports*Zevran* are still not working.The only import that seemed to matter at all was 'king allistar' IMO

[Shadow Fox]

Yuqi wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

If it is implemented it will most likely just be your characters class and gender, the mage/templar choice and how you dealt with the Qunari*sent Isabella off with them or fought them* from DA2

Hmmn that  seems a bit harsh. It might make playing origins deemed worthless.
If some plotflags are carried in DA2, like allistars status; wouldent that mean it would also be carried over to DA3?

That's the thing only major plot points should matter lest we end up with the cluster**** that was DA2's import system and why should what the Warden did matter in a game that's about the ramifacations of DA2 ?

[Yuqi]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

If it is implemented it will most likely just be your characters class and gender, the mage/templar choice and how you dealt with the Qunari*sent Isabella off with them or fought them* from DA2

Hmmn that  seems a bit harsh. It might make playing origins deemed worthless.
If some plotflags are carried in DA2, like allistars status; wouldent that mean it would also be carried over to DA3?

That's the thing only major plot points should matter lest we end up with the cluster**** that was DA2's import system and why should what the Warden did matter in a game that's about the ramifacations of DA2 ?

The choices you made at the landsmeet, If you spared the architect i,If you spared Zevran is another,since his actions affect Antiva.All of these would affect Thedas as a whole.

[Faust1979]

[quote]Yuqi wrote...

[quote]Faust1979 wrote...

They should just drop the import stuff if you aren't really building a game around it. It works with Mass Effect, but with Dragon Age and Dragon Age 2 it was pretty much all new characters with a few cameo's that didn't really matter all that much they could have been left out and it wouldn't of mattered much to the game. [/quote]

It would have mattered a great deal, to those who played origins. TO leave out the import system would be bad, because then, noen of the choices in game would matter in the next game,and  so on.

The backlash would also be  horrendus. The best way to do it,would be to let a seeker question someone,perhaps varric? and ask them about the choices. And consolidate the choices from the previous games.


[quote]Dave of Canada wrote...

why would the backlash be horrendous? our choices from Dragon Age 1 didn't matter all that much each game will have a new main character so what does the import feature matter? 

[LobselVith8]

I wonder how the war between the templars and mages will affect Ferelden if the Hero of Ferelden asked for the nation's Circle of Magi to be given its independence (even though the Chantry said no), especially with the Warden-Commander acting as the Arl of Amaranthine, governing a city, an army, and the order of Wardens across Ferelden.

As for choices being imported from Dragon Age 2, I'd imagine Sebastian and how Hawke treated him (as a friend or a rival) should play a role, in addition to whether Hawke sided with Meredith or the mages. I don't know how Sebastian would react to the mages emancipating themselves from the Chantry or the templars rebelling against the Chantry, but I'd assume it'd have to do with what Hawke did with Anders and what side he chose in Kirkwall.

In addition, I wonder if Hawke could become a leader to the mages if he's pro-mage (given how many times Anders says that Hawke is the leader who the mages have been waiting for).

[TEWR]

Feynriel.

[devSin]

I think it'd be a better use of time to try to guess what the defaults will be. Here's my guess for Default History:

(-Whether you killed,or spared anders.)
Anders was spared. He must now be destroyed, before his manic emotions explode and send pieces of Andersgut to the four corners of Thedas, sound-proofing the continent and preventing the Chant from ever being heard there, keeping the Maker from ever returning.
(-Whether you sided with the templars or mages.)
Mages were aided. Or rather, Meredith was opposed, but the import will be too stupid to recognize this nuance.
(-The staus of your warden.)
There is no Warden. There never was.

(-The choices regarding issabella inncident.)
Isabela returned, got her ship, left again. Try not to drown at sea, B.
(-Your Warden/Hawke LI.)
The Hawke and Fenris duo bring great justice to the land, by staff and by fist.
(-The fate of your siblings.)
Bethany died, crushed to a bloody pulp by an ogre and left to decay on the dirt road, food for darkspawn scavengers. Carver is on his way to becoming a good man, eventually leader of the Grey Wardens. He kills all the Origins' players' Wardens in single combat.

Modifié par devSin, 18 août 2011 - 10:57 .