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[Quill74Pen]

Everyone:

I'm curious, because the map of Thedas seems incredibly limited. Surely there's an entire planet out there and, unless it's an oceanic world, there should be other landmasses beyond Thedas. Heck, even if it's a planet dominated by massive oceans, Thedas itself isn't fully explored.

I hope we learn more about the planet that Thedas occupies. Do you? If so, why? And, what are the possibilities the developers will shed light on this topic?

Quill74Pen

[Sons of Horus]

Not tilll much later in the series I think, maybe only in novels.

[dgcatanisiri]

Well, it is essentially fantasy world Europe, so based on the level of technology, the people of Thedas may not even think that there's anything beyond whatever ocean surrounds the continent. Admittedly, since the qunari were said to have appeared, rather than been discovered, there's clearly more world out there, but think of it from a Thedas-ian perspective - the qunari came from there. Are you all that interested in finding more of them?

[Huntress]

The qunaries came from the sea, am sure there is other lands in the planet but right now everything is focus on Thedas, the qunaries are very different spicie so is very probable that many more "rare/strange looking humanoids exist".
Remember when people battle each other there is no much time to explore/discover other lands OR re-discovering lost cities and stuff,  you do that in time of peace within your country and with neighbouring countries.

ferelden people can't go exploring because of a threat of orlais and inside war with lords, Kirkwall is over run by templars at the end of DA2, Quaniries settle in an island not far from tavinter, not many people will leave tavinter to go exploring, I don't see many characters making plans to discover something new or old when so many things are happening at their door steps. Will it ever happen? Am not sure but I'll love to see it with Isabela! what? she has a ship!

Modifié par Huntress, 17 août 2011 - 04:54 .

[esper]

I also think that the inhabitants of Thedas propely assumes that their continent IS the world (That doesn't mean they are right, but I doubt their seafaring technics is good enough to ocean crossing.)

[Huntress]

esper wrote...

I also think that the inhabitants of Thedas propely assumes that their continent IS the world (That doesn't mean they are right, but I doubt their seafaring technics is good enough to ocean crossing.)

Well The vikings discovered North america way earlier that Christopher Columbus, and their ships were probably smaller.

Modifié par Huntress, 17 août 2011 - 04:59 .

[Urzon]

I can only see it happening after Bioware runs out of stuff to do in Thedas.

[jmadsen]

my guess Faerûn

[Wulfram]

esper wrote...

I also think that the inhabitants of Thedas propely assumes that their continent IS the world (That doesn't mean they are right, but I doubt their seafaring technics is good enough to ocean crossing.)

They know the Qunari turned up from somewhere.

Modifié par Wulfram, 17 août 2011 - 06:23 .

[RagingCyclone]

You are assuming of course the planet is a large one. Not all planets are the same size, and are we even sure it's a planet and perhaps not a moon with an atmosphere. Suffice to say DA is about Thedas and leave it at that. The rest is just academic.

[Aeowyn]

I believe it is stated in the codex entry regarding Thedas that the area south of Ostagar and east of Orlais is unexplored. That would imply that there is something there, but if we get to explore it one day or not is for BioWare to decide.

[esper]

Huntress wrote...

esper wrote...

I also think that the inhabitants of Thedas propely assumes that their continent IS the world (That doesn't mean they are right, but I doubt their seafaring technics is good enough to ocean crossing.)

Well The vikings discovered North america way earlier that Christopher Columbus, and their ships were probably smaller.

Also I think that the qunari ships could sail over whatever ocean there is, but apparently the normal Thedastian (?) think that the qunari just 'turned up' in Thedas someday.
Also everyone 'forgot' about America again untill Colombus. I doubt that we will leave Thedas in the dragon age. They are too busy killing each other, no time for exploring 

[Rifneno]

Huntress wrote...

Well The vikings discovered North america way earlier that Christopher Columbus, and their ships were probably smaller.

My favorite part is that the story has Columbus being the only intelligent person surrounded by idiots, when it was everyone else being intelligent and Columbus being an idiot.  He didn't have trouble getting the expedition going because people thought the world was flat, they knew it was round, they just realized that the world is way the hell bigger than Columbus thought.  And they were right.  He'd have died a slow and horrible death at sea after running out of supplies if he didn't accidentally hit a contient that nobody knew was there.

RagingCyclone wrote...

You are assuming of course the planet is a large one. Not all planets are the same size, and are we even sure it's a planet and perhaps not a moon with an atmosphere. Suffice to say DA is about Thedas and leave it at that. The rest is just academic.

A good theory, but one problem. The further north you go in Thedas, the warmer it gets. So everything we're seeing is south of the equator.

Anyway, to the OP, I think we will but not soon. Mainly because of a rather curious answer to a question DG answered in an interview before DA2 was released. The question was whether there were sentient races we haven't seen yet. He briefly mentioned the Fex and added "there's even some species beyond Thedas." If they've written some unreleased lore about "beyond" Thedas, then there must be plans for it.

[TEWR]

I'm calling it right now. An uncharted island with griffins in a wild state.


Mainly due to a hunch I have and Mike Laidlaw's suspicious comment "At this point I can only promise statues" regarding griffins

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 17 août 2011 - 07:12 .

[TEWR]

Aeowyn wrote...

I believe it is stated in the codex entry regarding Thedas that the area south of Ostagar and east of Orlais is unexplored. That would imply that there is something there, but if we get to explore it one day or not is for BioWare to decide.

The Chasind say that nomadic barbarians live in the frozen tundra that is south of Ostagar, and although people don't believe the Chasind, the codex on Boots of the Frozen Wastes says that the Chasind were right:

Temperatures in the Frozen Wastes can become perilously cold. The barbarians that live there favor boots like these to protect against frostbite. The barbarians, who are generally hospitable and friendly, often present these as gifts to travelers.

[thats1evildude]

I have a sinking feeling that the reason the qunari left their homeland outside of Thedas because they were fleeing some cataclysm that destroyed it. There is nothing beyond Thedas but wasteland.

That, or Jade Empire exists on the other side of the planet. 

Modifié par thats1evildude, 17 août 2011 - 07:56 .

[devSin]

Urzon wrote...

I can only see it happening after Bioware runs out of stuff to do in Thedas.

This is usually how I see it happening.

David Gaider is going to be turning in his grave when the inhabitants of Thedas sail to the land of the Aztecs or the Egyptian continent.

"What have they done with my setting?! They want to kill me a second time!"

[Northern Sun]

thats1evildude wrote...

I have a sinking feeling that the reason the qunari left their homeland outside of Thedas because they were fleeing some cataclysm that destroyed it. There is nothing beyond Thedas but wasteland.

Maybe they were a small sect that were banished from their original home because of their extremeist beliefs, like the geth heretics.

As for the main topic, the people of Thedas do know that there's land south of the Wilds, west of Orlais, and the Donnarks north of the Anderfels. However, Thedas is big enough that they, and the writers, find it mostly irrelevant.

[Urzon]

The Chasind say that nomadic barbarians live in the frozen tundra that is south of Ostagar, and although people don't believe the Chasind, the codex on Boots of the Frozen Wastes says that the Chasind were right:

Temperatures in the Frozen Wastes can become perilously cold. The barbarians that live there favor boots like these to protect against frostbite. The barbarians, who are generally hospitable and friendly, often present these as gifts to travelers.

Would they really be considered barbarians if they are generally hospitable and friendly? That doesn't really fit the barbarian image to me. Nomads maybe, but not barbarians. lol

[blothulfur]

Probably not, the bas are feckless and lazy.

[TEWR]

Urzon wrote...

The Chasind say that nomadic barbarians live in the frozen tundra that is south of Ostagar, and although people don't believe the Chasind, the codex on Boots of the Frozen Wastes says that the Chasind were right:

Temperatures in the Frozen Wastes can become perilously cold. The barbarians that live there favor boots like these to protect against frostbite. The barbarians, who are generally hospitable and friendly, often present these as gifts to travelers.

Would they really be considered barbarians if they are generally hospitable and friendly? That doesn't really fit the barbarian image to me. Nomads maybe, but not barbarians. lol

Barbarian is more of a derogatory term that doesn't always mean a cruel person.

Barbarian and Savage are pejorative terms used to refer to a person who is perceived to be uncivilized. The word is often used either in a general reference to a member of a nation or ethnos, typically a tribal society as seen by an urban civilization either viewed as inferior, or admired as a noble savage. In idiomatic or figurative usage, a "barbarian" may also be an individual reference to a brutal, cruel, warlike, insensitive person

[RagingCyclone]

@ Rifneno...again you are assuming Thedas is a planet like Earth. If it's a moon around a gas giant with a tilt...the normal rules of north/south of an equator might not apply.

[Sepewrath]

I doubt we will ever see outside of Thedas, this series is about what's happening there, any other place wouldn't be concerned with Thedas or its practices. Even if there was a whole world out there, there's clearly no globalization, so unless the series ends with some invading army from the great beyond, I think Thedas is all this series will cover.

[Quill74Pen]

RagingCyclone wrote...

@ Rifneno...again you are assuming Thedas is a planet like Earth. If it's a moon around a gas giant with a tilt...the normal rules of north/south of an equator might not apply.

It's true that Thedas might not be an Earth-like planet — perhaps it is inhospitable outside certain regions, conveniently those detailed in the Dragon Age series so far — but it *is* a planet. How do we know? Well, when you're in-game, look up in the nighttime sky ... there's a moon hanging in the sky.

So, unless it's one of those weird cosmic things where a moon is orbiting a moon orbiting a planet, Thedas is most indeed a terrestrial world located within its parent star's "Goldilocks" zone.

Quill74Pen

[Quill74Pen]

thats1evildude wrote...

I have a sinking feeling that the reason the qunari left their homeland outside of Thedas because they were fleeing some cataclysm that destroyed it. There is nothing beyond Thedas but wasteland.
That, or Jade Empire exists on the other side of the planet. 

According to an index entry, the Qunari in Thedas have intermittent contact with their civilization on the other side of the ocean. The key word is, of course, intermittent. Who knows what the actual time interval is between those moments of contact with the mother civilization.

Quill74Pen