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Will We Ever Find Out What Lands Lie Beyond Thedas?


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#51
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Ehh, I think this is jumping the gun a little bit. We haven't seen anything depicted except Ferelden, a portion of the Deep Roads, and the portion of the Free Marches surrounding Kirkwall. Kirkwall, which is about 10 miles across the Waking Sea from Ferelden.

The map and the Geography of Thedas codex are such teases....

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Rifneno amd Herr Uhl...read the whole thing. It's also about continental drift. There is a gif that shows the continent Pangea splitting and expanding to the current 7 we have today. Is it not conceivable that Thedas exist during any time during that change? Or can you not think outside the box to even concieve of it?

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RagingCyclone wrote...

Rifneno amd Herr Uhl...read the whole thing. It's also about continental drift. There is a gif that shows the continent Pangea splitting and expanding to the current 7 we have today. Is it not conceivable that Thedas exist during any time during that change? Or can you not think outside the box to even concieve of it?


What, that there is continental drift? What is your point exactly, that there was a megacontinent and then Thedas broke off?

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RagingCyclone wrote...

Rifneno amd Herr Uhl...read the whole thing. It's also about continental drift. There is a gif that shows the continent Pangea splitting and expanding to the current 7 we have today. Is it not conceivable that Thedas exist during any time during that change? Or can you not think outside the box to even concieve of it?


I know what Pangea was and what happened to it.  I do not, however, see how it ties to Thedas.  Even going back to the founding of Arlathan is barely the blink of an eye to a cycle of a supercontinent.

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Quill74Pen wrote...

Everyone:

I'm curious, because the map of Thedas seems incredibly limited. Surely there's an entire planet out there and, unless it's an oceanic world, there should be other landmasses beyond Thedas. Heck, even if it's a planet dominated by massive oceans, Thedas itself isn't fully explored.

I hope we learn more about the planet that Thedas occupies. Do you? If so, why? And, what are the possibilities the developers will shed light on this topic?

Quill74Pen


Based on the lore provided, it seems like humans and the Kossith came from somewhere else, so it's very likely there is land beyond the continent of Thedas. It's an interesting issue that I'd like to see explored.

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RagingCyclone wrote...

Haradmir wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

Haradmir wrote...

Does anyone know how many days are in a year on the Chantry calendar? 


There are twelve thirty-day months, so their year is about the same as ours.

Would you say it's safe to assume for now that Thedas is on planet pretty similar to Earth then?

Just for convience, it could be.


I could buy that, if we also could agree that this is possible:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangaea

I am aware of the general history of Earth's landmasses, but what does that have to do with Thedas' planet occupying a similar region of space as Earth does, and possibly being about the same size? And are you expressing doubt that Pangaea existed? I can't tell.

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LobselVith8 wrote...

Quill74Pen wrote...

Everyone:

I'm curious, because the map of Thedas seems incredibly limited. Surely there's an entire planet out there and, unless it's an oceanic world, there should be other landmasses beyond Thedas. Heck, even if it's a planet dominated by massive oceans, Thedas itself isn't fully explored.

I hope we learn more about the planet that Thedas occupies. Do you? If so, why? And, what are the possibilities the developers will shed light on this topic?

Quill74Pen


Based on the lore provided, it seems like humans and the Kossith came from somewhere else, so it's very likely there is land beyond the continent of Thedas. It's an interesting issue that I'd like to see explored.


Hmm ... it's possible that when David Gaider, et al., explain more about why darkspawn ogres — who are birthed from broodmothers who were once Kossith — have been around in Thedas far longer than the Kossith themselves, we'll also learn more about what lies beyond the explored regions of whatever planet Thedas is a part of. (And, yes, I think that was a run-on sentence. Heh.)

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One day they might. There would be a limit though, most of these sort of fictional universes (Song of ice and fire, Eragon, LOTR etc.) don't usually bother though.

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No. TheDAS stands for "the Dragon Age Setting". I thought it was self explanatory. Invaders coming from other continents is possible (like the Qunari and Humans before them), but a PC leaving Thedas in a Dragon Age game isn't happening.

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oh look a thread to post this in

Based on information from the DA RPG and guesstimations from the climate, this would be the approximate size and latitudinal location of Thedas (longitudinal placement arbitrary) if it were on a planet the same size as Earth:

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So, yes, I'd assume there is way more to the Dragon Age planet. (... Thedap?)

If we end up seeing Par Vollen/Rivain/whatever further north and those climates are far more temperate than Ferelden, that may be evidence for a planet that is proportionally smaller than Earth (or that the mile measurements in the RPG are wrong and Thedas is much bigger).

Modifié par ipgd, 19 août 2011 - 07:02 .


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ipgd wrote...

oh look a thread to post this in

Based on information from the DA RPG and guesstimations from the climate, this would be the approximate size and latitudinal location of Thedas (longitudinal placement arbitrary) if it were on a planet the same size as Earth:

Posted Image

So, yes, I'd assume there is way more to the Dragon Age planet. (... Thedap?)

If we end up seeing Par Vollen/Rivain/whatever further north and those climates are far more temperate than Ferelden, that may be evidence for a planet that is proportionally smaller than Earth (or that the mile measurements in the RPG are wrong and Thedas is much bigger).

Par Vollen and Seheron are supposed to be full of jungles though, so I'd think that would put them at maybe around 20 degrees south at least...

*shrug*

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what's north of those places then.



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Ignoring measurements in DA, I'd think this would be a better placement of Thedas.

Modifié par Haradmir, 19 août 2011 - 11:08 .


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Well it is The Dragon Age setting...

dgcatanisiri wrote...

Well, it is essentially fantasy world Europe, so based on the level of technology, the people of Thedas may not even think that there's anything beyond whatever ocean surrounds the continent. Admittedly, since the qunari were said to have appeared, rather than been discovered, there's clearly more world out there, but think of it from a Thedas-ian perspective - the qunari came from there. Are you all that interested in finding more of them?


People in 12th Century Europe knew there was more to the world than Europe... they'd been there - they'd invaded the middle east en masse nine times. Marco Polo had been to China and back...

Haradmir wrote...

Just for convience, it could be.


If their days are roughly the same length and their years are roughly the same length then the planet has to be about the same size as the earth. Unless they have a different kind of star maybe... does anyone know what colour it is? Or ... no wait... I've confused myself. :?

Herr Uhl wrote...

So, a continent the size of Europe is the only landmass there?


That seems unlikely. If that were the case the weather would be... weird.

I'm even less of a meteorologist than an astronomer but the climate of a  planet that only had one landmass would be very extreeme ... one way or the other.

Modifié par Gespenst, 19 août 2011 - 11:42 .


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Dragon Age is... not so good with a lot of scientific laws. A lot of places in the Deep Roads you can get much closer to magma than you should be able to. One spot leading into the Primeval Thaig in particular is amusing as there's a stream of magma only a few feet away on either side of the PC. Heat radiates. And the temperature of magma varies a lot, but generally speaking 1500 degrees fahrenheit is frigid for it. So in places like that, you'd be screaming in horrible agony. But not for very long.

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That's true, but it's so ubiquitous in videogames that I tend to forget about it myself.

After the first time I got to see Orzammar and yelled "how is anyone alive!?" I kind of had to stop worrying about such things.

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Rifneno wrote...

Dragon Age is... not so good with a lot of scientific laws. A lot of places in the Deep Roads you can get much closer to magma than you should be able to. One spot leading into the Primeval Thaig in particular is amusing as there's a stream of magma only a few feet away on either side of the PC. Heat radiates. And the temperature of magma varies a lot, but generally speaking 1500 degrees fahrenheit is frigid for it. So in places like that, you'd be screaming in horrible agony. But not for very long.


Well at least My hawke armor has Fire protections! rofl! did I just did that? rofl.;)

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Rifneno wrote...

Dragon Age is... not so good with a lot of scientific laws. A lot of places in the Deep Roads you can get much closer to magma than you should be able to. One spot leading into the Primeval Thaig in particular is amusing as there's a stream of magma only a few feet away on either side of the PC. Heat radiates. And the temperature of magma varies a lot, but generally speaking 1500 degrees fahrenheit is frigid for it. So in places like that, you'd be screaming in horrible agony. But not for very long.

 

Hmmm  this is true could it have something to do with rocks  possible enchantments used in the construction...  Either way you are right  the DA  universe even in the Magical Scientific Laws is very lacking  and needs to beef that  up some.

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"...the thaig is located a week below the surface."
And you say you're having trouble finding people to go on this expedition? Fancy that.

Rifneno wrote...

Dragon Age is... not so good with a lot of scientific laws. A lot of places in the Deep Roads you can get much closer to magma than you should be able to. One spot leading into the Primeval Thaig in particular is amusing as there's a stream of magma only a few feet away on either side of the PC. Heat radiates. And the temperature of magma varies a lot, but generally speaking 1500 degrees fahrenheit is frigid for it. So in places like that, you'd be screaming in horrible agony. But not for very long.

The darkspawn must be able to resist the heat....and are probably master BBQ chefs. :pinched:

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nitefyre410 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Dragon Age is... not so good with a lot of scientific laws. A lot of places in the Deep Roads you can get much closer to magma than you should be able to. One spot leading into the Primeval Thaig in particular is amusing as there's a stream of magma only a few feet away on either side of the PC. Heat radiates. And the temperature of magma varies a lot, but generally speaking 1500 degrees fahrenheit is frigid for it. So in places like that, you'd be screaming in horrible agony. But not for very long.

 

Hmmm  this is true could it have something to do with rocks  possible enchantments used in the construction...  Either way you are right  the DA  universe even in the Magical Scientific Laws is very lacking  and needs to beef that  up some.

It must have something to do with Sandal. The same power that is within him is also that which protects the various thaigs.

Enchantment! :wizard:

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Rifneno wrote...

Dragon Age is... not so good with a lot of scientific laws. A lot of places in the Deep Roads you can get much closer to magma than you should be able to. One spot leading into the Primeval Thaig in particular is amusing as there's a stream of magma only a few feet away on either side of the PC. Heat radiates. And the temperature of magma varies a lot, but generally speaking 1500 degrees fahrenheit is frigid for it. So in places like that, you'd be screaming in horrible agony. But not for very long.


movies and other video games fail at this.  Even LoTR's end where bilbo and fordo are inches away from lava.  Growing up in Hawaii, being 8 feet away from lava feels like an oven and things inches away burn.

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Rifneno wrote...

Dragon Age is... not so good with a lot of scientific laws. A lot of places in the Deep Roads you can get much closer to magma than you should be able to. One spot leading into the Primeval Thaig in particular is amusing as there's a stream of magma only a few feet away on either side of the PC. Heat radiates. And the temperature of magma varies a lot, but generally speaking 1500 degrees fahrenheit is frigid for it. So in places like that, you'd be screaming in horrible agony. But not for very long.


Also, one of the biggest problems with mining and tunneling is getting enough fresh air in. I don't see any air refreshment installations in the deep roads, and i've seen a doc on tunneling once that had a friggin huge (and noisy) machine to do that.
It is a fantasy setting.

As for lands beyond thedas, I doubt we'll get to know all of it. Thats okay with me.

On another note, my partner recently pointed out that bioware tends to do only trilogies. If thats true, would DA3 be the last game in this setting?

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Neminea wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Dragon Age is... not so good with a lot of scientific laws. A lot of places in the Deep Roads you can get much closer to magma than you should be able to. One spot leading into the Primeval Thaig in particular is amusing as there's a stream of magma only a few feet away on either side of the PC. Heat radiates. And the temperature of magma varies a lot, but generally speaking 1500 degrees fahrenheit is frigid for it. So in places like that, you'd be screaming in horrible agony. But not for very long.


Also, one of the biggest problems with mining and tunneling is getting enough fresh air in. I don't see any air refreshment installations in the deep roads, and i've seen a doc on tunneling once that had a friggin huge (and noisy) machine to do that.
It is a fantasy setting.

As for lands beyond thedas, I doubt we'll get to know all of it. Thats okay with me.

On another note, my partner recently pointed out that bioware tends to do only trilogies. If thats true, would DA3 be the last game in this setting?


Doubt it. Mass Effect was established to be a trilogy of games. They haven't said that the DA series would end at DA3. Plus, there are so many unanswered questions that they wouldn't be able to end the series in DA3 in a good way.

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Neminea wrote...

On another note, my partner recently pointed out that bioware tends to do only trilogies. If thats true, would DA3 be the last game in this setting?


Other than ME, when have they ever made a trilogy? I don't count Throne of Bhaal as a whole game btw.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Neminea wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Dragon Age is... not so good with a lot of scientific laws. A lot of places in the Deep Roads you can get much closer to magma than you should be able to. One spot leading into the Primeval Thaig in particular is amusing as there's a stream of magma only a few feet away on either side of the PC. Heat radiates. And the temperature of magma varies a lot, but generally speaking 1500 degrees fahrenheit is frigid for it. So in places like that, you'd be screaming in horrible agony. But not for very long.


Also, one of the biggest problems with mining and tunneling is getting enough fresh air in. I don't see any air refreshment installations in the deep roads, and i've seen a doc on tunneling once that had a friggin huge (and noisy) machine to do that.
It is a fantasy setting.

As for lands beyond thedas, I doubt we'll get to know all of it. Thats okay with me.

On another note, my partner recently pointed out that bioware tends to do only trilogies. If thats true, would DA3 be the last game in this setting?


Doubt it. Mass Effect was established to be a trilogy of games. They haven't said that the DA series would end at DA3. Plus, there are so many unanswered questions that they wouldn't be able to end the series in DA3 in a good way.

I hope DA3 isn't the end of it. I don't care if they leave things out for resolution in later comics or books or whatever, but I sincerely hope they don't try to force as much as possible to wrap up in a trilogy. I don't know why they would though... :?

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SkittlesKat96 wrote...

One day they might. There would be a limit though, most of these sort of fictional universes (Song of ice and fire, Eragon, LOTR etc.) don't usually bother though.


Please, do not insult fantasy by including the word "Eragon" in your posts. ;)