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[1136342t54_]

LPPrince wrote...
This is the core of my problem with it.

I feel really uncomfortable with the feeling that I voted for the one I wanted in game, and now she's not the one who's going to be in game even after the fact that she won.

Getting my hopes up only to have them dashed=Not cool.

Considering that the majority didn't want what you wanted this second round was better since the majority actually got what they wanted. I didn't get what I wanted at all and I'm not complaining. 

[Fata Morgana]

LPPrince wrote...

Ulicus wrote...



No offence is meant to the awesome fellas at Penny Arcade by altering their strip, of course.

This is the core of my problem with it.

I feel really uncomfortable with the feeling that I voted for the one I wanted in game, and now she's not the one who's going to be in game even after the fact that she won.

Think of it as a runoff election. Maybe Bioware should have warned you that there would be a runoff, and that's not cool. But the Shep I voted for in the first poll didn't win.  Am I owed something because of that?  Of course not. And you're not owed anything, either, just because it turns out that the femshep you liked isn't really the most popular one.  You'll live. 

[wolfennights]

I'm glad the redhead is winning, even with blonde shep there.

Not that I hate blondes.

[BigGuy28]

wicked117 wrote...

Fata Morgana wrote...

BigGuy28 wrote...

Basically what it comes down to is:

Yeah I won, deal with it losers!

Nooooo I won last time! You can't do it again! This is wrong! I won! Me! Me! ME!!!!!!!!!

Exactly.

Not all who voted for blonde shep and preferred blonde has that attitude 

I know just the ones that are freaking out over the blonde losing now are like that. I voted for the blonde in the first poll but only because of the hair style.

[AlphaJarmel]

Also it's not like this is even close. Blonde is getting STOMPED. People were apparently voting for style in the first.

[1136342t54_]

Marionetten wrote...
It's a significant difference when compared to the original face which everyone voted for. And I fail to see how stereotyping redheads is a positive. Either way, the votes were obviously chucked for this do over.

I never said it was a good thing. Stereo type may not have been the best word for it but I'm tired and getting annoyed at how people are getting pissy over incredibly small and minor things that barely even shows up unless you actually make a high res version of the pics. 

When people think of red heads they would think of red hair maybe green eyes and freckles. Its obviously the artist who did that pic just wanted add in some things akin to some red heads and didn't think to much about it afterwards. It isn't significant enough to say it was a do over. Even if it was somehow that significant Blonde shep wouldn't have won either way. Brunette shep would have won.

[Ophiskc]

1136342t54 wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

Before assuming i'm wrong, just check the high res wallpapers in the M3 page, there's #2 face in this new poll, wich is suppose to be #5 exclusive

I've checked it. Other than the similarity that nearly everysingle shepard has no it isn't really exactly like #2. 

It is, except for the hair style, if you're not able to see it then you just dont have an eye for that, or just dont want to admit that your assumption that i'm wrong is not correct

[1136342t54_]

Ophiskc wrote...
It is, except for the hair style, if you're not able to see it then you just dont have an eye for that, or just dont want to admit that your assumption that i'm wrong is not correct

If I was wrong then that would mean that nearly every poster in this thread who hasn't seen what you have doesn't have an eye for it.

[KBomb]

Whew! Red ftw!

[Fata Morgana]

nevermind

Modifié par Fata Morgana, 18 août 2011 - 02:29 .

[LPPrince]

I feel like it turned out like this, pardon the example-

Vote for who you want to be President of the USA.

Obama, Clinton, Bush.

Lets say I pick Clinton in this case.

Voting happens, Clinton wins. NICE.

So now he's the presi....wait.

Suddenly there's a ninja poll. Now its-

Clinton, Kerry, and Palin. Gotta vote again.

Wha....

^ Totally horrible example, but the fact is this-

The vote was for what I wanted in game. I pictured all of them in game, and I wanted #5.

#5 won. So I can rest easy, and seeing her in game would be a reality, as well as in the trailer, cover, etc etc.

Now I'm told the first poll is meaningless and I have to vote for her again amongst new options, and THIS one is the one that matters.

Hell, I'd completely understand if a bunch of blonde-supporters just don't vote. It feels wrong to me.

That and the fact that the redhead is unique to all the others with a beauty mark removal, freckle addition, and an eye color switch. Now its not just for hair color. Now its a copy of the first poll, which defeats the whole point.

So I have to voice my concerns and dissatisfaction. I do not in any way like that my vote is being null and voided after being assured that the one I wanted would be in game.

If I have to keep bringing it up or PM a dev or two, I will. Cause this makes me question Bioware and how they respond to the fandom's style of asking for changes.

Do they respond better to complaining, moaning, etc etc, or to honest lengthy explanations of why a variance would be better?

[slimgrin]

^^^Lol. Exactly. Ninja poll ftw. This could go on forever.

Modifié par slimgrin, 18 août 2011 - 02:33 .

[Balek-Vriege]

1136342t54 wrote...

Marionetten wrote...

So changing her eye color and giving her freckles isn't a substantial change at all according to you? And I still have an argument as neither of those pertain to hair color. Clearly we need to have a poll for her eye color and then another poll for freckles for things to be fair, no?

Its not. Many Red Heads or gingers or whatever have freckles and sometimes green eyes. Those characteristics are so akin to stereo typical red heads that it isn't a significant difference.

I think changing the face is misleading with the small photos they have.  It appears the poll is only a competition on hair colour.  However, three of the faces have identical face and textures to femshep 5, while the red hair face has a completely different texture and eye colour on closer inspection.  A lot of people are going to overlook that small difference assuming the hair is the only thing changed.

That's a fairly big difference, especially for people who liked the overall face and not the hair colour/type may be shocked to see the textures have changed without them knowing.  In a way, they took textures from an unpopular femshep face and transposed them onto the most popular, probably because people complained about the mole.

I personally like the freckles and the red hair since they go well together, but I dislike the unrealistically green eyes.  If they stay, I could see the complaints now that Femshep looks too cartoony because of her eye colour.

1136342t54 wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

The eye form is also different, and thats what disturbs me the most, they are more rounded and gently shaped. Why they dont keep the winner eyes or face in that one i just cant understand

WTF?

I don't even see that either.

Your right.  I have been doing custom textures on some mods of mine for 3 hours now.  I have taken like five looks and the shapes are identical.  It might be what I have a problem with:  The green eyes drawing attention away from the eye shape and making people think they're bigger, because the colour is bolder/more saturated.

Modifié par Balek-Vriege, 18 août 2011 - 02:31 .

[1136342t54_]

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!

Sorry I just felt like doing that lol.

[Nauks]

Sad to see a new poll, bitter sweet.

[Fata Morgana]

LPPrince wrote...

I feel like it turned out like this, pardon the example-

Vote for who you want to be President of the USA.

Obama, Clinton, Bush.

Lets say I pick Clinton in this case.

Voting happens, Clinton wins. NICE.

So now he's the presi....wait.

Suddenly there's a ninja poll. Now its-

Clinton, Kerry, and Palin. Gotta vote again.

Wha....

Actually it's a lot more like a runoff election, which happens all the time (though not during a presidential vote - though some people think there should be run-off elections for the president, if the winning candidate didn't get more than 50% of the vote) .

[BigGuy28]

I still think that if the blonde was winning this time, no one would be crying about there being a second vote.

Modifié par BigGuy28, 18 août 2011 - 02:33 .

[Ophiskc]

1136342t54 wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...
It is, except for the hair style, if you're not able to see it then you just dont have an eye for that, or just dont want to admit that your assumption that i'm wrong is not correct

If I was wrong then that would mean that nearly every poster in this thread who hasn't seen what you have doesn't have an eye for it.

Is funny, in your other posts you just admit that they're different but with me you just say no, do you have double personality issues? or you're just a person who hates to admit they're wrong?. Either way i'll just ignore you now, makes no sense to discuss with people like you

[Marionetten]

BigGuy28 wrote...

I still think that if the blonde was winning this time, no one would be crying about their being a second vote.

Except for the same people who cried about the first one, you mean.

[LPPrince]

Well, if its like a runoff election, we should've known there would be a runoff election BEFOREHAND.

We didn't.

Springing this on us is wrong, and I don't like it one bit.

Don't give me a choice if you're not going to follow it anyway.

[leggywillow]

I just hope that the red isn't so... bright when it's actually rendered in the trailer and in-game.  She looks like the Little Mermaid fell into a pit of radioactive goo.

[LPPrince]

BigGuy28 wrote...

I still think that if the blonde was winning this time, no one would be crying about there being a second vote.

There would still be the issue of a second poll coming up.

I mean dang, there was a TON of people who said, "Bioware, please don't make a second poll. Once this is over, let it be."

Aaaaaaand Bioware completely ignored them.

[lucylips000]

LPPrince wrote...

I feel like it turned out like this, pardon the example-

Vote for who you want to be President of the USA.

Obama, Clinton, Bush.

Lets say I pick Clinton in this case.

Voting happens, Clinton wins. NICE.

So now he's the presi....wait.

Suddenly there's a ninja poll. Now its-

Clinton, Kerry, and Palin. Gotta vote again.

Wha....

^ Totally horrible example, but the fact is this-

The vote was for what I wanted in game. I pictured all of them in game, and I wanted #5.

#5 won. So I can rest easy, and seeing her in game would be a reality, as well as in the trailer, cover, etc etc.

Now I'm told the first poll is meaningless and I have to vote for her again amongst new options, and THIS one is the one that matters.

Hell, I'd completely understand if a bunch of blonde-supporters just don't vote. It feels wrong to me.

That and the fact that the redhead is unique to all the others with a beauty mark removal, freckle addition, and an eye color switch. Now its not just for hair color. Now its a copy of the first poll, which defeats the whole point.

So I have to voice my concerns and dissatisfaction. I do not in any way like that my vote is being null and voided after being assured that the one I wanted would be in game.

If I have to keep bringing it up or PM a dev or two, I will. Cause this makes me question Bioware and how they respond to the fandom's style of asking for changes.

Do they respond better to complaining, moaning, etc etc, or to honest lengthy explanations of why a variance would be better?

I feel the exact same way! Nicely put

[Balek-Vriege]

Fata Morgana wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

I feel like it turned out like this, pardon the example-

Vote for who you want to be President of the USA.

Obama, Clinton, Bush.

Lets say I pick Clinton in this case.

Voting happens, Clinton wins. NICE.

So now he's the presi....wait.

Suddenly there's a ninja poll. Now its-

Clinton, Kerry, and Palin. Gotta vote again.

Wha....

Actually it's a lot more like a runoff election, which happens all the time (though not during a presidential vote - though some people think there should be run-off elections for the president, if the winning candidate didn't get more than 50% of the vote) .

True, but its even more like having an election, everyone thinking that's the final decision and all of a sudden, a run off election comes out of no where.  Imagine how many people would be mad in real life if they voted for a President, thought he won, then had to vote again mysteriously out of nowhere.  I think a lot of people would have been ok with a second poll, if they were told or at least given a hint another one was coming.  It seems this new poll is reactionary and was dreamed up in between poll #1 and now.