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The largest consensus went to femshep 5. And now, the largest consensus is going to femshep 5 with red hair. There is nothing rigged about that.


AGAIN READ what I say, the way the voting was carried out has caused a skewed inaccurate result.  It may or may not have been intentional but the fact is they changed their mind and decided to do a second poll after there was a clear winner.  Then they shoved two blonde femsheps in there, then they altered red femshep and left the others alone and this was following a huge negative campaign against blonde femshep.  But hey none of that matters I guess, although it all seemed to matter when femshep 5 was winning.

CrookedAsylum wrote... But this is useless. You are so butthurt about the whole thing - ridiculously so because, if I recall correctly, you're one of the people who are refusing to vote 'in protest'  - that you won't be reasoned with, no, everything with the world is wrong if you don't get blondeshep, but you have no right to b-tch if you're not going to vote.


The ones wanting a ginger femshep were butt hurt that femshep 5 won and they ****ed enough and got a do over, why aren't you "having a go" at them ?  I am not voting because of a "protest" I am not voting cos I can't see the damn point.  I already voted Bioware ignored the result and did a do over.  So I don't see the point of voting again only to see Bioware do another bloody do over just because some don't like the result.

Now everything with the world isn't wrong if I don't get a blondeshep.  That is just you trying to moronically exaggerate my position as some like to do on here.  I have every right to **** I voted for femshep 5, she won and then hey presto we have to do it again because some didn't like the result.

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charmingcharlie wrote...

Firstly quit with the picture spam, we have all seen the crappy gifs hundreds of times we don't need to see them again.

Secondly I am not saying Bioware intentionally rigged the vote.  I am saying the way they engineered the 1st and 2nd poll situation was a complete and utter **** up and has led to a screwed up result.  I am not going to keep repeating the same stuff over and over again, if you want to know what my views are then READ my previous posts in this thread.

As for the majority wanting a ginger shep, that isn't the case.  Yes ginger shep is winning but the majority DO NOT want a ginger shep.  The numbers show that Ginger shep has less than 50% of the vote that means more people DO NOT WANT a ginger shep than those that want a ginger shep.  It was the same with femshep 5 most did not want her (about 58% voted against femshep 5).  So no ginger shep may be winning but she is NOT what the majority want.  This argument was constantly used to bash femshep 5 in the first poll btw so I guess it must still be applicable now (or does it only work when blonde femshep is winning ?).

So based on that statement, the majority wants a mixture of three Shepards? Then let me rephrase: Redshep has the majority of votes based on the individual choices. Better or am I still wrong?

I've been reading your posts and most essentially say the same thing: You wanted Blondshep and now u mad. I think I'm gonna end this right here. You can go ahead and believe you've "won" this argument if it makes you feel better, but I've dealt with enough people like you to know that it's better to just walk away.

Was going to post a rather humorous Willy Wonka "Good day, sir" pic, but you just aren't any fun.

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Majority wins?! What a cheat. That is so unfair, you guys. So unfair. I'm going to my room to write sad poems and cry.

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charmingcharlie wrote...
AGAIN READ what I say, the way the voting was carried out has caused a skewed inaccurate result.  It may or may not have been intentional but the fact is they changed their mind and decided to do a second poll after there was a clear winner.  Then they shoved two blonde femsheps in there, then they altered red femshep and left the others alone and this was following a huge negative campaign against blonde femshep.  But hey none of that matters I guess, although it all seemed to matter when femshep 5 was winning.

Okay then explain how the hell this second poll is so skewed. Now don't tell me that bs of Red shep getting freckles and green eyes because the only time you can even see that is if you use a high rez version of the pictures.

The ones wanting a ginger femshep were butt hurt that femshep 5 won and they ****ed enough and got a do over, why aren't you "having a go" at them ?  I am not voting because of a "protest" I am not voting cos I can't see the damn point.  I already voted Bioware ignored the result and did a do over.  So I don't see the point of voting again only to see Bioware do another bloody do over just because some don't like the result.

So just because they wanted something different from you that means they ****ed? So because I liked #3 you are assuming I complained a lot to?

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Okay, voted brunette I guess. Which...actually is in second place. Interesting. If there IS another vote I hope it's to allow us to customize the default.

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charmingcharlie wrote...
The ones wanting a ginger femshep were butt hurt that femshep 5 won and they ****ed enough and got a do over, why aren't you "having a go" at them ? 


Because they aren't still throwing a teenaged tantrum. If they were, people would 'have a go' at them, too. If someone wanting raven shep came into this thread and threw a teenaged tantrum like you're doing, the same would be true.

Basically you're getting treated like a whiny baby based on your posts, nothing else. Other people will be similarly treated based on their posts. Such is the way of things, child.

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Okay, voted brunette I guess. Which...actually is in second place. Interesting. If there IS another vote I hope it's to allow us to customize the default.

We can't customize default maleshep or femshep in M3. Sorry.

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Fata Morgana wrote...

Majority wins?! What a cheat. That is so unfair, you guys. So unfair. I'm going to my room to write sad poems and cry.


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Ferris95 wrote...

Fata Morgana wrote...

Majority wins?! What a cheat. That is so unfair, you guys. So unfair. I'm going to my room to write sad poems and cry.


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Okay then explain how the hell this second poll is so skewed. Now don't tell me that bs of Red shep getting freckles and green eyes because the only time you can even see that is if you use a high rez version of the pictures.


Firstly there are the visual alterations to Ginger shep, yes they are there and they can be seen they are known about.  In effect the ginger shep is pretty much EVERYTHING that ginger shep users wanted.  The blonde and black haired femshep are just copy pasta from the last poll and in the black hairs case a simple repaint.  The blonde even gets split into two with a light blonde and a "dirty" blonde vote.

Then on top of that this new poll has started on the tail end of a huge ****fest by the media about blonde femshep winning.

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So just because they wanted something different from you that means they ****ed? So because I liked #3 you are assuming I complained a lot to?

There is nothing wrong with wanting something different my point was that those that complained made enough noise to get Bioware to redo the poll.  I am not assuming you complained I don't even know who you are but the fact is there were those that didn't like the result of the last poll so they got a do over and we are supposed to be happy with that :whistle: .

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By all means, don't vote. Please don't vote. In fact, I forbid you to make votes of any kind. That'll show em.

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charmingcharlie wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...
The largest consensus went to femshep 5. And now, the largest consensus is going to femshep 5 with red hair. There is nothing rigged about that.


AGAIN READ what I say, the way the voting was carried out has caused a skewed inaccurate result.  It may or may not have been intentional but the fact is they changed their mind and decided to do a second poll after there was a clear winner.  Then they shoved two blonde femsheps in there, then they altered red femshep and left the others alone and this was following a huge negative campaign against blonde femshep.  But hey none of that matters I guess, although it all seemed to matter when femshep 5 was winning.

CrookedAsylum wrote... But this is useless. You are so butthurt about the whole thing - ridiculously so because, if I recall correctly, you're one of the people who are refusing to vote 'in protest'  - that you won't be reasoned with, no, everything with the world is wrong if you don't get blondeshep, but you have no right to b-tch if you're not going to vote.


The ones wanting a ginger femshep were butt hurt that femshep 5 won and they ****ed enough and got a do over, why aren't you "having a go" at them ?  I am not voting because of a "protest" I am not voting cos I can't see the damn point.  I already voted Bioware ignored the result and did a do over.  So I don't see the point of voting again only to see Bioware do another bloody do over just because some don't like the result.

Now everything with the world isn't wrong if I don't get a blondeshep.  That is just you trying to moronically exaggerate my position as some like to do on here.  I have every right to **** I voted for femshep 5, she won and then hey presto we have to do it again because some didn't like the result.


Oh my God... you voted for the hair color. Many people voted for the hair style, and didn't like the color. This isn't a do-over. You interpreted the first poll as the only and final one, and it obviously wasn't. Even if it was at the time, Bioware is allowed to change their minds. Don't make it sound like it should be final just because it would mean you got what you wanted. You're throwing a tantrum about not getting your way, and throwing around statements such as the poll being rigged (which it isn't); this first poll didn't count (which is did, because it's the same model, different hair color); Bioware caved to the whiners (which would be chill if they caved to your whining, right?).

That aside, mass consensus is going to ginger haired femshep. That pisses you off, vote. Otherwise, you're worse than the original whiners.

At least they actually participated instead of sitting back, b-tching, 'there's no point.'

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Fata Morgana wrote...

Ferris95 wrote...

Fata Morgana wrote...

Majority wins?! What a cheat. That is so unfair, you guys. So unfair. I'm going to my room to write sad poems and cry.


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I'll be taking that to go please :innocent:

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Sylvianus wrote...

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Okay, voted brunette I guess. Which...actually is in second place. Interesting. If there IS another vote I hope it's to allow us to customize the default.

We can't customize default maleshep or femshep in M3. Sorry.



Yeah...I heard.  Sigh.  Like I said earlier, Sheploo is a real person's image, so it would make sense that we can't alter it.  But FemShep is generated.  I'm cool with default FemShep’s hair being red in keeping with the consistency of ME1 and 2.  The only thing I'm not liking is if the slider choices for customizing  turn out to be, shall we say, not as sharp or defining as those on default FemShep, like the experience I've had with custom male Sheps.  I've never had that problem with my FemSheps 'cause they all look decent (default Jane looked like she came from the customizable settings and therefore fit in with them).  Maybe it's just me but for the life of me I haven't been able to make a male Shep that looks as…maybe “as decent” isn't the right wording because not everyone likes Sheploo I’m sure, but as unique and scaled as the default's traits.

TL;DR: I don't want my imported/customized FemSheps to get screwed out of quality features when default FemShep herself is a generated image. 

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charmingcharlie wrote...


Firstly there are the visual alterations to Ginger shep, yes they are there and they can be seen they are known about.  In effect the ginger shep is pretty much EVERYTHING that ginger shep users wanted.  The blonde and black haired femshep are just copy pasta from the last poll and in the black hairs case a simple repaint.  The blonde even gets split into two with a light blonde and a "dirty" blonde vote.

Then on top of that this new poll has started on the tail end of a huge ****fest by the media about blonde femshep winning.

I'm not saying there are no differences. I am saying that the differences are so difficult to see using the normal pics that you have to actually use a high rez version of them to figure them out. I didn't even know Red Head shep had freckles or even green eyes. Actually I thought they all had the same color eyes.

There is nothing wrong with wanting something different my point was that those that complained made enough noise to get Bioware to redo the poll.  I am not assuming you complained I don't even know who you are but the fact is there were those that didn't like the result of the last poll so they got a do over and we are supposed to be happy with that :whistle: .


The problem with this is that that's not what happened. Bioware specifically told us that they read posts regarding how people liked the hair style but would prefer a different hair color. I was even one of those people but I ultimately chose #3. 

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I also want to know who are the Ginger whiners? There was no arguments over why can't the blonde be red RABBLE RABBLE. Most of the arguments were that using a hot blonde was sexist somehow and males would mostly vote for the hot blonde.

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Is there a non-facebook poll?

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Weiser_Cain wrote...

Is there a non-facebook poll?


Nope

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Unofficially there is, officially no.

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1136342t54 wrote...

I also want to know who are the Ginger whiners?
There was no arguments over why can't the blonde be red RABBLE RABBLE. Most of the arguments were that using a hot blonde was sexist somehow and males would mostly vote for the hot blonde.



Yeah, this. I don’t remember seeing a lot of people whining about her not being a red head. I saw a lot of people say they wish number five had red hair, but they weren’t whining.
@charmingcharlie

The femshep I wanted didn’t get picked at all. I wanted number one. Still want her. I didn’t get her--or even get a chance to vote on a different hair color for her. I got over it. Maybe you should do the same.

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All this could be ended with BioWare doing the easier thing and letting you alter the hair color in the CC. Everyone is pleased, no complaining.

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Rogue Unit wrote...

All this could be ended with BioWare doing the easier thing and letting you alter the hair color in the CC. Everyone is pleased, no complaining.


Ha ha ha ha ha. Oh wait, you're serious?  Allow me to laugh even harder. HA HA HA HA.

Someday, the sun will go supernova and our planet will be utterly engulfed in a wave of destruction.  On that day, there will be a starship full of Bioware fans complaining that it was the WORST. SUPERNOVA. EVER.

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1136342t54 wrote...

I also want to know who are the Ginger whiners? There was no arguments over why can't the blonde be red RABBLE RABBLE. Most of the arguments were that using a hot blonde was sexist somehow and males would mostly vote for the hot blonde.


It's taking a subset (or in this case, a larger subset) and forcing them into another subset that everyone on ---> that side can now hate.  

It's tantamount to taking the majority of a group of people and lumping them with a subset that are criminals and look like them so that you can view them all as criminals.  In other words, painting everyone with the same brush because they aren't representative of (or different from) you.

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Fata Morgana wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

Is there a non-facebook poll?


Nope

What the hell is the point of being on the official forums if we have to go to facebook to have a say?

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Ferris95 wrote...

Fata Morgana wrote...

Ferris95 wrote...

Fata Morgana wrote...

Majority wins?! What a cheat. That is so unfair, you guys. So unfair. I'm going to my room to write sad poems and cry.


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You win the thread. Posted Image


I'll be taking that to go please :innocent:


*Hands over trophy.*  :)