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[1136342t54_]

charmingcharlie wrote...
No my argument is NOT off you just too stubborn to accept it.  Tell me did Bioware create the second poll ?  Yes they did.  Did Bioware give extra detail to red haired femshep and neglect the other three ?  Yes they did.  Therefore simply bloody logic says to us that Bioware made the second poll with an inherent bias towards red haired femshep which is what I have been saying for 3 damn pages now, you just keep going but but but.

So you ignored the part again that I said I could agree with you if you simply said unintentional bias which you did. You also seem to forget that you yourself said it was likely unintentional bias. Now what am I not accepting? I'm not agreeing with 100%? Of course I'm not becaue none of our arguments are likely 100% true hell I was the first one to bring up that it could be unintentional bias.

Then it makes a mockery of both polls, the first poll we voted for a long haired, blue eyed, pale faced mole ridden femshep did we not ?  That means if the second poll is JUST about hair colour we should have four long haired, pale faced, blue eyed, mole ridden femsheps but with different coloured hair right ?  After all this is just about the hair colour and femshep 5 won with everything else right.

Not really. The first poll on its own is good and thats the way I see it. The second poll could have been done better but those differences are only big or small depending on opinion so its difficult to tell if the Red head shep won because of the (in my opinion) small differences or the Red hair. Personally I seriously doubt all of the blonde shep voters stopped voting suddenly allowing the red head shep to win.

Then he shouldn't have because we didn't vote for that did we, we voted for a long haired blue eyed, pale faced, mole ridden femshep.  That was the winner end of discussion, so by making red femshep significantly different they are basically ignoring the result of poll 1 and introduced a bias in femsheps favour because she has unique features the others do not.

Hence what I said mistake. I'm not sure if my definiation is entirely accurate but bias shows favoritism. It is likely either equal parts favoritism and mistake on the artist part or more mistake than favoritism. I mean who would have known that just by adding a few features considered small by some would immediately seem large by others who would call bias on it?


Like I said it could be either or.

Edit: You know its quite funny to even make an attempt to agree with you and still get attacked. Just lovely.

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 19 août 2011 - 09:53 .

[RynJ]

Ophiskc wrote...

xXljoshlXx wrote...

But that still wouldn't put blonde in last the black hair colour has twice as many votes which doesn't have any unique feautures

Maybe black hair Shep would be winning right now if she would have the same threatment as red, green eyes and "cute" freckles. I bet many people dont like moles

Either way the poll was made wrong, they indeed gived redshep special features, and they separate blonde into 2 options (light and dirty blond). This poll seems a little odd to me, and no, i dont care what hair color this Shep has at the end

Don't think so. In fact a lot of the commenters say they "don't" like the freckles.  People voting for green eyes are most likely few and far between.  It's all about the hair color baby!

[1136342t54_]

Honestly the freckles and green eyes probably gave the red head shep less votes then what was intended for the original blonde shep. They voted for someone with a mole on there face and blue eyes.

[slimgrin]

What do fans want now? Purple?

GOOOOO purple!!

[Ryzaki]

I'm vastly amused at some of the blond people who went "Deal with it." having to choke on their own words.

[RynJ]

slimgrin wrote...

What do fans want now? Purple?

GOOOOO purple!!

The point you're trying to make is really silly but I find it amusing!

Sure thing, I like purple! I'm disappointed it wasn't an option in this poll!

[slimgrin]

I'm ammused by the fans who have crystal balls. And Bioware's polls. Those are the most ammusing of all.

Modifié par slimgrin, 19 août 2011 - 09:54 .

[Fata Morgana]

Purple would actually be awesome.

[ErichHartmann]

I want black hair with the fringes dyed pink.

[RynJ]

ErichHartmann wrote...

I want black hair with the fringes dyed pink.

It can have streaks of purple, red, brown, and blonde too! There, everyone wins!

[Arppis]

Fata Morgana wrote...

Purple would actually be awesome.

Only person that worked with was Psylocke... and she is a comic book character.
Even with her it's "iffy". Natural colors, please.

[xXljoshlXx]

PURPLE BUT I WANT PINK

[JGDD]

Fata Morgana wrote...

Purple would actually be awesome.

As would a Foxy Cleopatra hair style. But alas...

[charmingcharlie]

1136342t54 wrote...
So you ignored the part again that I said I could agree with you if you simply said unintentional bias which you did. You also seem to forget that you yourself said it was likely unintentional bias. Now what am I not accepting? I'm not agreeing with 100%? Of course I'm not becaue none of our arguments are likely 100% true hell I was the first one to bring up that it could be unintentional bias.

No one can say whether it was intentional or unintentional.  I would say I find it damn fishy that they put extra effort into the look for red haired femshep for vote 2 but did sod all for the other 3 in the second vote.  So you have to ask why did they do the extra effort for red haired femshep and not the other 3 ?  Truth is we will never know.  But it doesn't change the fact that there was a bias infavour of red haired femshep in vote 2.

1136342t54 wrote... Not really. The first poll on its own is good and thats the way I see it. The second poll could have been done better but those differences are only big or small depending on opinion so its difficult to tell if the Red head shep won because of the (in my opinion) small differences or the Red hair. Personally I seriously doubt all of the blonde shep voters stopped voting suddenly allowing the red head shep to win.

I would say it does make a mockery of the first poll when you don't stick to the result of the first poll.  They might as well not have bothered with the first poll then if they were not even going to stick to the winning results in the second poll.  Again I wouldn't call them small differences, green eyes is a HELL of a change and I could see it going down very well on both blonde and black femsheps and yes it could be something that ate into the red femshep lead.  This isn't just about Red vs Blonde here there is also black haired femshep and green eyes would look very striking on her and I believe she is in second place.

[slimgrin]

Fata Morgana wrote...

Purple would actually be awesome.

Good for you.

[RynJ]

charmingcharlie wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...
So you ignored the part again that I said I could agree with you if you simply said unintentional bias which you did. You also seem to forget that you yourself said it was likely unintentional bias. Now what am I not accepting? I'm not agreeing with 100%? Of course I'm not becaue none of our arguments are likely 100% true hell I was the first one to bring up that it could be unintentional bias.

No one can say whether it was intentional or unintentional.  I would say I find it damn fishy that they put extra effort into the look for red haired femshep for vote 2 but did sod all for the other 3 in the second vote.  So you have to ask why did they do the extra effort for red haired femshep and not the other 3 ?  Truth is we will never know.  But it doesn't change the fact that there was a bias infavour of red haired femshep in vote 2.

1136342t54 wrote... Not really. The first poll on its own is good and thats the way I see it. The second poll could have been done better but those differences are only big or small depending on opinion so its difficult to tell if the Red head shep won because of the (in my opinion) small differences or the Red hair. Personally I seriously doubt all of the blonde shep voters stopped voting suddenly allowing the red head shep to win.

I would say it does make a mockery of the first poll when you don't stick to the result of the first poll.  They might as well not have bothered with the first poll then if they were not even going to stick to the winning results in the second poll.  Again I wouldn't call them small differences, green eyes is a HELL of a change and I could see it going down very well on both blonde and black femsheps and yes it could be something that ate into the red femshep lead.  This isn't just about Red vs Blonde here there is also black haired femshep and green eyes would look very striking on her and I believe she is in second place.

It sounds like you're just against Red Head Shep winning.  Sure, put green eyes on the others. Red would probably still win based on this voting so far. And if it didn't I wouldn't whine about it, because it's what the majority wanted.

Round and round and round we go, where we stop....probably no where actually.

[xXljoshlXx]

It isn't a mockery because your first winner is still there they changed nothing so she is exactly the same if people wanted her that bad they would have voted for her but they didn't....

[Ophiskc]

RynJ wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

xXljoshlXx wrote...

But that still wouldn't put blonde in last the black hair colour has twice as many votes which doesn't have any unique feautures

Maybe black hair Shep would be winning right now if she would have the same threatment as red, green eyes and "cute" freckles. I bet many people dont like moles

Either way the poll was made wrong, they indeed gived redshep special features, and they separate blonde into 2 options (light and dirty blond). This poll seems a little odd to me, and no, i dont care what hair color this Shep has at the end

Don't think so. In fact a lot of the commenters say they "don't" like the freckles.  People voting for green eyes are most likely few and far between.  It's all about the hair color baby!

And i read comments on facebook of people that cheer up the freckles, mine and your words are just assumptions.
The reality, we will never know, because the second poll was not equal anyway

[RynJ]

If blonde was winning again none of these people complaining now would still be complaining...

Modifié par RynJ, 19 août 2011 - 09:59 .

[Fata Morgana]

RynJ wrote...

If blonde was winning again none of these people now would still be complaining...

Pretty much.

[charmingcharlie]

RynJ wrote...
It sounds like you're just against Red Head Shep winning.  Sure, put green eyes on the others. Red would probably still win based on this voting so far. And if it didn't I wouldn't whine about it, because it's what the majority wanted.

Round and round and round we go, where we stop....probably no where actually.

Well it worked for the ones that didn't like the result of the first vote didn't it 

[Fata Morgana]

Hey guyz, guyz.

Hair is serious business.

[1136342t54_]

charmingcharlie wrote...
No one can say whether it was intentional or unintentional.  I would say I find it damn fishy that they put extra effort into the look for red haired femshep for vote 2 but did sod all for the other 3 in the second vote.  So you have to ask why did they do the extra effort for red haired femshep and not the other 3 ?  Truth is we will never know.  But it doesn't change the fact that there was a bias infavour of red haired femshep in vote 2.

Well to me the simplest answer is sometimes the best answer to be honest. The artist thought that a red head would probably have some freckles and green eyes. The other sheps already had features that would fit them so there was no point in the change.

Hell I would have done the same if I wasn't thinking about it much.

I would say it does make a mockery of the first poll when you don't stick to the result of the first poll.  They might as well not have bothered with the first poll then if they were not even going to stick to the winning results in the second poll.  Again I wouldn't call them small differences, green eyes is a HELL of a change and I could see it going down very well on both blonde and black femsheps and yes it could be something that ate into the red femshep lead.  This isn't just about Red vs Blonde here there is also black haired femshep and green eyes would look very striking on her and I believe she is in second place.

I would not have liked green eyes on the black haired shepard at all. Honestly I like her more than the red head shepard. Remember its a matter of personal opinion on the situation. Like I said before the pictures on Facebook are definitely not good enough to tell any difference but hair color. Most of the voters likely can't tell either unless you go on BSN and find some high res pictures or make some yourself.

[Balek-Vriege]

charmingcharlie wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...
So you ignored the part again that I said I could agree with you if you simply said unintentional bias which you did. You also seem to forget that you yourself said it was likely unintentional bias. Now what am I not accepting? I'm not agreeing with 100%? Of course I'm not becaue none of our arguments are likely 100% true hell I was the first one to bring up that it could be unintentional bias.

No one can say whether it was intentional or unintentional.  I would say I find it damn fishy that they put extra effort into the look for red haired femshep for vote 2 but did sod all for the other 3 in the second vote.  So you have to ask why did they do the extra effort for red haired femshep and not the other 3 ?  Truth is we will never know.  But it doesn't change the fact that there was a bias infavour of red haired femshep in vote 2.

1136342t54 wrote... Not really. The first poll on its own is good and thats the way I see it. The second poll could have been done better but those differences are only big or small depending on opinion so its difficult to tell if the Red head shep won because of the (in my opinion) small differences or the Red hair. Personally I seriously doubt all of the blonde shep voters stopped voting suddenly allowing the red head shep to win.

I would say it does make a mockery of the first poll when you don't stick to the result of the first poll.  They might as well not have bothered with the first poll then if they were not even going to stick to the winning results in the second poll.  Again I wouldn't call them small differences, green eyes is a HELL of a change and I could see it going down very well on both blonde and black femsheps and yes it could be something that ate into the red femshep lead.  This isn't just about Red vs Blonde here there is also black haired femshep and green eyes would look very striking on her and I believe she is in second place.

I agree.  What they should have done is have only the hair colour changes and if Redhead Shep won, have a 3rd poll to keep blue eyes and mole or go with freckles and green eyes.  Who knows, maybe there will be a 3rd poll on that anyways with even more complexion changes (scars etc.).

Like I said in my first post on this subject on some thread, bioware opened a huge can of worms with the 2nd poll.

[BigGuy28]

Am I the only one that looked at the hair style and color and didn't care about the eyes or facial features? I didn't even notice the eye colors, freckles or mole until people started mentioning them.