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charmingcharlie wrote...
Well it worked for the ones that didn't like the result of the first vote didn't it 

No it didn't. Not for me or the majority who wanted 1,2,3,4 and 6.

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BigGuy28 wrote...

Am I the only one that looked at the hair style and color and didn't care about the eyes or facial features? I didn't even notice the eye colors, freckles or mole until people started mentioning them.

This. No one noticed them not even me until BSN posters started to put so much focus on the pictures and started mentioning them.

[RynJ]

charmingcharlie wrote...

RynJ wrote...
It sounds like you're just against Red Head Shep winning.  Sure, put green eyes on the others. Red would probably still win based on this voting so far. And if it didn't I wouldn't whine about it, because it's what the majority wanted.

Round and round and round we go, where we stop....probably no where actually.

Well it worked for the ones that didn't like the result of the first vote didn't it 

What? Oh you mean the majority!

[Fata Morgana]

BigGuy28 wrote...

Am I the only one that looked at the hair style and color and didn't care about the eyes or facial features? I didn't even notice the eye colors, freckles or mole until people started mentioning them.

That's how I felt too. I even argued that the eyecolors were the same until someone did a blowup of one of the faces to 'prove' it. To be honest, I'm still not sure that wasn't a photoshop job. I can't tell a difference between the eyecolors using the facebook images, and the 'freckles' could just be artifacting.

[xXljoshlXx]

Fata Morgana wrote...

Hey guyz, guyz.

Hair is serious business.

It is when your preferred choice is losing then it becomes unfair

[Balek-Vriege]

BigGuy28 wrote...

Am I the only one that looked at the hair style and color and didn't care about the eyes or facial features? I didn't even notice the eye colors, freckles or mole until people started mentioning them.

Same.  I only noticed a couple hours in after someone pointed it out.  There in lies the problem:  People are assuming the vote is for hair only, but the face/eye texture has been changed on redhead shep and the pictures are not high res/big enough to make them stand out.

Edit:  To be fair the same goes for original vote, but there were a lot of high res photos and good closeups floating about.

Modifié par Balek-Vriege, 19 août 2011 - 10:04 .

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Fata Morgana wrote...

BigGuy28 wrote...

Am I the only one that looked at the hair style and color and didn't care about the eyes or facial features? I didn't even notice the eye colors, freckles or mole until people started mentioning them.

That's how I felt too. I even argued that the eyecolors were the same until someone did a blowup of one of the faces to 'prove' it. To be honest, I'm still not sure that wasn't a photoshop job. I can't tell a difference between the eyecolors using the facebook images, and the 'freckles' could just be artifacting.

Me to. Thats why I doubt the freckles or green eyes actually had anything to do with the Red head winning. Hell bioware probably did that on purpose with the pictures so the majority couldn't see the differences.

[charmingcharlie]

1136342t54 wrote... Well to me the simplest answer is sometimes the best answer to be honest. The artist thought that a red head would probably have some freckles and green eyes. The other sheps already had features that would fit them so there was no point in the change.

Hell I would have done the same if I wasn't thinking about it much.

As I said you can think that if you like, but we are supposed to be talking about a fair vote here and I do not consider making changes to red haired femshep to improve her looks for vote 2 and doing nothing with the others as "fair".

1136342t54 wrote...  I would not have liked green eyes on the black haired shepard at all. Honestly I like her more than the red head shepard. Remember its a matter of personal opinion on the situation. Like I said before the pictures on Facebook are definitely not good enough to tell any difference but hair color. Most of the voters likely can't tell either unless you go on BSN and find some high res pictures or make some yourself

That is you though, just because you wouldn't have liked green eyes on black haired shepard is neither here nor there.  I personally would be very inclined to vote for a black haired femshep with green eyes myself.  In fact I would probably take that over a blonde femshep.  We have already had one person in here saying that green eyes also helped convince him to vote for red hair.  So yes eye colour DOES matter and does influence the result.

[Fata Morgana]

xXljoshlXx wrote...

Fata Morgana wrote...

Hey guyz, guyz.

Hair is serious business.

It is when your preferred choice is losing then it becomes unfair

Everything is unfair forever and always.

I really want Bioware to do some real trolling here so the whiners can see what it looks like. Completely throw out the results of both polls and do FemShep off the face of a model or something. Or just use a graphic designer to come up with something. Anything so that the angst wagon will continue indefinitely. And then once it reaches a fever pitch, Bioware closes BSN forever and when you click on the link to get here the only thing you see is a giant **** YOU. That would be so boss.

[RynJ]

Fata Morgana wrote...

xXljoshlXx wrote...

Fata Morgana wrote...

Hey guyz, guyz.

Hair is serious business.

It is when your preferred choice is losing then it becomes unfair

Everything is unfair forever and always.

I really want Bioware to do some real trolling here so the whiners can see what it looks like. Completely throw out the results of both polls and do FemShep off the face of a model or something. Or just use a graphic designer to come up with something. Anything so that the angst wagon will continue indefinitely. And then once it reaches a fever pitch, Bioware closes BSN forever and when you click on the link to get here the only thing you see is a giant **** YOU. That would be so boss.

As cool as that would be, whiny fans aren't worth the effort.

[slimgrin]

Everyone who voted in the first poll, despite the fact that it won, is a whiny fan. Rock on bsn.

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charmingcharlie wrote...

As I said you can think that if you like, but we are supposed to be talking about a fair vote here and I do not consider making changes to red haired femshep to improve her looks for vote 2 and doing nothing with the others as "fair".

Depends on how you see it which is purely speculation. Some would see it as improving while others wouldn't. I really don't see it as an improvement more of a difference.

That is you though, just because you wouldn't have liked green eyes on black haired shepard is neither here nor there.  I personally would be very inclined to vote for a black haired femshep with green eyes myself.  In fact I would probably take that over a blonde femshep.  We have already had one person in here saying that green eyes also helped convince him to vote for red hair.  So yes eye colour DOES matter and does influence the result.

I just said in the other post. Its a matter of opinion period. One person saying that means it matters to that one person thats it. It only proves my point its a matter of opinion but it really doesn't matter. Most voters likely didn't see the differences. Hell I see the differences and it still doesn't change my vote.

[Balek-Vriege]

Fata Morgana wrote...

xXljoshlXx wrote...

Fata Morgana wrote...

Hey guyz, guyz.

Hair is serious business.

It is when your preferred choice is losing then it becomes unfair

Everything is unfair forever and always.

I really want Bioware to do some real trolling here so the whiners can see what it looks like. Completely throw out the results of both polls and do FemShep off the face of a model or something. Or just use a graphic designer to come up with something. Anything so that the angst wagon will continue indefinitely. And then once it reaches a fever pitch, Bioware closes BSN forever and when you click on the link to get here the only thing you see is a giant **** YOU. That would be so boss.

You've gone mad Fata...  utterly mad!  This is an OUTRAGE!

[Fata Morgana]

slimgrin wrote...

Everyone who voted in the first poll, despite the fact that it won, is a whiny fan. .

Everyone who whined about either vote is a whiny fan.  But this is obvious.

[charmingcharlie]

1136342t54 wrote... Depends on how you see it which is purely speculation. Some would see it as improving while others wouldn't. I really don't see it as an improvement more of a difference.

It is a difference that should never have existed and it skews the results, just like people argued the differences in hairstyles skewed the results in blonde femsheps favour.  I think it is equally valid to say that giving only red haired femshep green eyes skews it in her favour.

1136342t54 wrote...
I just said in the other post. Its a matter of opinion period. One person saying that means it matters to that one person thats it. It only proves my point its a matter of opinion but it really doesn't matter. Most voters likely didn't see the differences. Hell I see the differences and it still doesn't change my vote.

It was a matter of opinion when people kept saying "they are only voting for blonde femshep because of the hair".  You can think that most voters don't see the difference if you like but that doesn't change the fact the difference is there, it can be seen and it is known about and it does have the potential to alter the results of the poll and that makes the second poll unfair.

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 19 août 2011 - 10:17 .

[RynJ]

slimgrin wrote...

Everyone who voted in the first poll, despite the fact that it won, is a whiny fan. Rock on bsn.

No people who whined about it on either poll is a whiny fan. I'm sure you know of some.

[1136342t54_]

I don't know if you are doing this on purpose or not but you are ignoring the parts in my posts that recognizes that the majority never saw the differences in the shepards so it wouldn't effect the majority vote.

[slimgrin]

Fata Morgana wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Everyone who voted in the first poll, despite the fact that it won, is a whiny fan. .

Everyone who whined about either vote is a whiny fan.  But this is obvious.

Only the people in the first vote have been told, 'sorry suckaz! Peeps be b*tchin, so we doin it again!'

Hmm, that's quite the vote.

Modifié par slimgrin, 19 août 2011 - 10:24 .

[charmingcharlie]

1136342t54 wrote...

I don't know if you are doing this on purpose or not but you are ignoring the parts in my posts that recognizes that the majority never saw the differences in the shepards so it wouldn't effect the majority vote.

You are just speculating that, you can't say what makes everyone vote whatever way.  My argument about this second vote is that it is just as unfair as the first.  You just keep saying "oh the differences don't really matter" well you don't know that unless you ask every single person that voted.  I would say eye colour is just as important as hair colour and the fact that red femshep is the only one in that poll that has green eyes gives her an unfair advantage just like in poll 1 when blonde femshep had an unfair advantage with the hairstyle.

[Xeranx]

1136342t54 wrote...

I don't know if you are doing this on purpose or not but you are ignoring the parts in my posts that recognizes that the majority never saw the differences in the shepards so it wouldn't effect the majority vote.

What does it matter?  He took himself out of the vote if I recall.  He adamantly said he would not vote in this poll.  As such he removed himself as a voice to be heard.  He's, basically, just making noise for the sake of doing so. 

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charmingcharlie wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

I don't know if you are doing this on purpose or not but you are ignoring the parts in my posts that recognizes that the majority never saw the differences in the shepards so it wouldn't effect the majority vote.

You are just speculating that, you can't say what makes everyone vote whatever way.  My argument about this second vote is that it is just as unfair as the first.  You just keep saying "oh the differences don't really matter" well you don't know that unless you ask every single person that voted.  I would say eye colour is just as important as hair colour and the fact that red femshep is the only one in that poll that has green eyes gives her an unfair advantage just like in poll 1 when blonde femshep had an unfair advantage with the hairstyle.

WTF? How can I be speculating when it is obvious that the only time anyone actually saw any differences is when the high res pics came up on BSN. No one knew it and there was even an argument over if the eyes was different. You literally have to try very hard to find differences. I'd bet most people who are voting aren't from BSN and is just using the Facebook pictures.

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Xeranx wrote...

What does it matter?  He took himself out of the vote if I recall.  He adamantly said he would not vote in this poll.  As such he removed himself as a voice to be heard.  He's, basically, just making noise for the sake of doing so. 

If that is true then there is little point in arguing. People who don't vote but then get pissy about elections or even small things like this are very annoying usually.

[Fata Morgana]

slimgrin wrote...

Fata Morgana wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Everyone who voted in the first poll, despite the fact that it won, is a whiny fan. .

Everyone who whined about either vote is a whiny fan.  But this is obvious.

Whine, whine, WHINE, whine, whine!  Whine wh-whine!

[charmingcharlie]

1136342t54 wrote...
If that is true then there is little point in arguing. People who don't vote but then get pissy about elections or even small things like this are very annoying usually.

Why would I want to take part in a voting process that is skewed in favour of one option ?  I would say voting in a flawed poll is actually worse because you are trying to give validity to a flawed poll.

[gamer_girl]

1136342t54 wrote...

charmingcharlie wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

I don't know if you are doing this on purpose or not but you are ignoring the parts in my posts that recognizes that the majority never saw the differences in the shepards so it wouldn't effect the majority vote.

You are just speculating that, you can't say what makes everyone vote whatever way.  My argument about this second vote is that it is just as unfair as the first.  You just keep saying "oh the differences don't really matter" well you don't know that unless you ask every single person that voted.  I would say eye colour is just as important as hair colour and the fact that red femshep is the only one in that poll that has green eyes gives her an unfair advantage just like in poll 1 when blonde femshep had an unfair advantage with the hairstyle.

WTF? How can I be speculating when it is obvious that the only time anyone actually saw any differences is when the high res pics came up on BSN. No one knew it and there was even an argument over if the eyes was different. You literally have to try very hard to find differences. I'd bet most people who are voting aren't from BSN and is just using the Facebook pictures.

And I was definitely one of those people. The faces looked completely identical to me. And I wasn't even aware of the high res ones on here until now. I just voted cause I was like "Well I think the brunette with the braid looks pretty cool".