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[gamer_girl]

Fata Morgana wrote...

If there is one criticism I would make of Bioware, it's that the votes don't have high-res face pictures instead of full body ones. It's not like we need to see the bodies, since we're not voting on that.

But what-evs, it's a goddamn facebook poll. The plight of the free world does not hang on the voting of jpegs.

Haha yup it really is kind of silly. But what's even more silly is how people are complaining now after making the vote fair. Some fans are just never happy. Kind of would like to see them do anything half as good as BW does it whether it be games or even stupid polls that effect a minor part of gameplay if you even choose to use default in the first place. Pretty callous of some of the people on here if you ask me. People always find something to complain about. Even when the intention of the thing they were complaining about was generous in itself.

[TNT1991]

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charmingcharlie wrote...

No it is not inaccurate, I voted for a pale faced, blue eyed, long haired mole ridden femshep did I not ? Then why the hell does the second poll feature a green eyed, freckled faced femshep ? I don't recall seeing her winning in the first poll do you ? So by introducing this new femshep that I did not voted for is invalidating the 1st poll in my books.

Your welcome!

[didymos1120]

1136342t54 wrote...
Interesting observation. I'll try that later.

Had to rephrase my post: of course people are seeing green eyes on Red 5, because she actually has them.  What I  was trying to get at was that people aren't picking up on the green eyes of the others because they don't expect them there.  Funnily enough, at least one person caught on and complained that Raven 5 would look better if she just had blue eyes. But a bunch of other commenters think she does have them.  With Blondie, you see a lot more comments about her "blue" eyes, likely because the expectation of them with a blonde is higher.  Again, though, a couple people caught on and complained that the blue eyes should be brought back.

Modifié par didymos1120, 19 août 2011 - 11:24 .

[Seboist]

Red hair/Green eyes and Black Hair/Blue eyes are the best combos by far. That's what my two femsheps have.

Modifié par Seboist, 19 août 2011 - 11:24 .

[Fata Morgana]

gamer_girl wrote...

Fata Morgana wrote...

If there is one criticism I would make of Bioware, it's that the votes don't have high-res face pictures instead of full body ones. It's not like we need to see the bodies, since we're not voting on that.

But what-evs, it's a goddamn facebook poll. The plight of the free world does not hang on the voting of jpegs.

Haha yup it really is kind of silly. But what's even more silly is how people are complaining now after making the vote fair. Some fans are just never happy. Kind of would like to see them do anything half as good as BW does it whether it be games or even stupid polls that effect a minor part of gameplay if you even choose to use default in the first place. Pretty callous of some of the people on here if you ask me. People always find something to complain about. Even when the intention of the thing they were complaining about was generous in itself.

Yeah, the thing that continues to be lost in all the bickering is: Wow, it is pretty amazing for Bioware to spend time and resources on a character that less than 20% of their audience ever see.  If they had just picked a femshep that they liked and gone with it, no voting, that alone would have made me really happy. The fact that they allowed us in to the process at all is incredibly bold and generous of them. Bioware is an amazing, incredible company and I think I'll be fans of them forever.

[1136342t54_]

charmingcharlie wrote...

No it is not inaccurate, we voted for a pale faced, blue eyed, long haired mole ridden femshep did we not ? Then why the hell does the second poll feature a green eyed, freckled faced femshep ? I don't recall seeing her winning in the first poll do you ? So by introducing this new femshep that no one voted for is invalidating the 1st poll in my books.

Considering now that even that the eyes being different are still up for debate the only true difference is the freckles which I haven't even discovered until someone had made high res pics of them. The differences may be there but the only time anyone even noticed is when people were looking for them.

I didn't realise this was up for dispute, it is widely stated that the majority making comments in the femshep picture section were asking for red hair

What was widely known and even stated by bioware was that the people who voted for blonde shep wanted a different hair color. Some said red, others said black etc. It still means that everyone who didn't vote for blonde shep didn't get what they wanted. If that was true then everyone would be voting for red head shep. I certainly didn't get what wanted.

Hell Bioware ignored 32,000 votes for a blue eyed, long haired, pale faced femshep and introduced a green eyed freckled face femshep that no one voted for.

Obviously from this second poll they seem to have actually payed attention to the votes since blonde shep didn't get any where near as many votes as she did in the first poll. You still haven't given a reason why you are ignoring Bioware.

The differences are there, they can be seen and they will influence the vote as I keep saying and you keep saying "blah blah they wont" well if that is the case why did Bioware bother ? The differences exist and they will affect the vote the question is how much they will affect the vote and no one can answer that.

Stop being childish. I am seriously trying to debate with you and hell I even compromised earlier even though you were becoming annoying which I find peculiar for a supposed 40 yr old. Be honest you didn't even notice the differences until someone made a high res pic.

I have not attacked or insulted anyone in the past five pages. I have merely sought to explain that saying "this is just a vote on hair colour" is wrong and the vote is flawed. But for some reason you don't like that.

So because you supposedly haven't attacked anyone in the last five pages that supposed to make me ignore what you have posted throughout this thread?

[charmingcharlie]

justgimmedudedammit wrote...
Tough to vote for something that wasn't an option at the time.

I
wouldn't mind a black haired, green eyed femshep but that isn't an
option yet they made black haired femshep use the winning looks of poll 1
but they didn't make red haired femshep look like poll 1.

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charmingcharlie wrote...

No it is not inaccurate, I voted for a pale faced, blue eyed, long haired mole ridden femshep did I not ? Then why the hell does the second poll feature a green eyed, freckled faced femshep ? I don't recall seeing her winning in the first poll do you ? So by introducing this new femshep that I did not voted for is invalidating the 1st poll in my books.

Your welcome!

Yep I and 32,000 others voted for long haired, pale faced, mole ridden, blue eyed femshep.  She won the contest and the only question left was hair colour so the second poll should have featured 4 femsheps with a pale face, mole, long hair and blue eyes because that is what WON the first poll.

[1136342t54_]

charmingcharlie wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

I don't know if you are doing this on purpose or not but you are ignoring the parts in my posts that recognizes that the majority never saw the differences in the shepards so it wouldn't effect the majority vote.

You are just speculating that, you can't say what makes everyone vote whatever way. My argument about this second vote is that it is just as unfair as the first. You just keep saying "oh the differences don't really matter" well you don't know that unless you ask every single person that voted. I would say eye colour is just as important as hair colour and the fact that red femshep is the only one in that poll that has green eyes gives her an unfair advantage just like in poll 1 when blonde femshep had an unfair advantage with the hairstyle.

WTF? How can I be speculating when it is obvious that the only time anyone actually saw any differences is when the high res pics came up on BSN. No one knew it and there was even an argument over if the eyes was different. You literally have to try very hard to find differences. I'd bet most people who are voting aren't from BSN and is just using the Facebook pictures.

I'm still waiting for you to respond to this.

[Xeranx]

TNT1991 wrote...

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charmingcharlie wrote...

No it is not inaccurate, I voted for a pale faced, blue eyed, long haired mole ridden femshep did I not ? Then why the hell does the second poll feature a green eyed, freckled faced femshep ? I don't recall seeing her winning in the first poll do you ? So by introducing this new femshep that I did not voted for is invalidating the 1st poll in my books.

Your welcome!

To be fair the same question can be asked of you as to who you mean by "we".  It's obvious charmingcharlie uses "we" indicating those who did as he did.  To change that because you don't agree with it is low as far as I'm concerned.  I view it on the same level as stating "that's you're opinion" when it's painfully clear said statement is their opinion.

Modifié par Xeranx, 19 août 2011 - 11:27 .

[gamer_girl]

Fata Morgana wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

Fata Morgana wrote...

If there is one criticism I would make of Bioware, it's that the votes don't have high-res face pictures instead of full body ones. It's not like we need to see the bodies, since we're not voting on that.

But what-evs, it's a goddamn facebook poll. The plight of the free world does not hang on the voting of jpegs.

Haha yup it really is kind of silly. But what's even more silly is how people are complaining now after making the vote fair. Some fans are just never happy. Kind of would like to see them do anything half as good as BW does it whether it be games or even stupid polls that effect a minor part of gameplay if you even choose to use default in the first place. Pretty callous of some of the people on here if you ask me. People always find something to complain about. Even when the intention of the thing they were complaining about was generous in itself.

Yeah, the thing that continues to be lost in all the bickering is: Wow, it is pretty amazing for Bioware to spend time and resources on a character that less than 20% of their audience ever see.  If they had just picked a femshep that they liked and gone with it, no voting, that alone would have made me really happy. The fact that they allowed us in to the process at all is incredibly bold and generous of them. Bioware is an amazing, incredible company and I think I'll be fans of them forever.

Yup. Bunch of self-righteous ingrates if you ask me.

[gamer_girl]

1136342t54 wrote...

charmingcharlie wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

I don't know if you are doing this on purpose or not but you are ignoring the parts in my posts that recognizes that the majority never saw the differences in the shepards so it wouldn't effect the majority vote.

You are just speculating that, you can't say what makes everyone vote whatever way. My argument about this second vote is that it is just as unfair as the first. You just keep saying "oh the differences don't really matter" well you don't know that unless you ask every single person that voted. I would say eye colour is just as important as hair colour and the fact that red femshep is the only one in that poll that has green eyes gives her an unfair advantage just like in poll 1 when blonde femshep had an unfair advantage with the hairstyle.

WTF? How can I be speculating when it is obvious that the only time anyone actually saw any differences is when the high res pics came up on BSN. No one knew it and there was even an argument over if the eyes was different. You literally have to try very hard to find differences. I'd bet most people who are voting aren't from BSN and is just using the Facebook pictures.

I'm still waiting for you to respond to this.

Haha no kidding. One of my responses was ignored also. Probably couldn't think of a way to combat it. XD

[JGDD]

charmingcharlie wrote...

I
wouldn't mind a black haired, green eyed femshep but that isn't an
option yet they made black haired femshep use the winning looks of poll 1
but they didn't make red haired femshep look like poll 1.

Hate to burst your bubble, but...

I just checked all the images as didy suggested and guess what? All eyes are identical.

[KBomb]

charmingcharlie wrote...

I
wouldn't mind a black haired, green eyed femshep but that isn't an
option yet they made black haired femshep use the winning looks of poll 1
but they didn't make red haired femshep look like poll 1.

Yep I and 32,000 others voted for long haired, pale faced, mole ridden, blue eyed femshep.  She won the contest and the only question left was hair colour so the second poll should have featured 4 femsheps with a pale face, mole, long hair and blue eyes because that is what WON the first poll.

Did you even read the post didymos1120 made?

[charmingcharlie]

1136342t54 wrote... Considering now that even that the eyes being different are still up for debate the only true difference is the freckles which I haven't even discovered until someone had made high res pics of them. The differences may be there but the only time anyone even noticed is when people were looking for them.

People also now KNOW about the differences and will look for them and it alters the result. i really cannot believe you are trying to keep going "oh the differences are minor and won't make a difference" they will an eye colour change and a different complexion is hardly minor.

1136342t54 wrote... What was widely known and even stated by bioware was that the people who voted for blonde shep wanted a different hair color. Some said red, others said black etc. It still means that everyone who didn't vote for blonde shep didn't get what they wanted. If that was true then everyone would be voting for red head shep. I certainly didn't get what wanted.

Yes the one you voted for lost, that is regretable there will always be losers in a poll. I would have much preferred to have seen femshep 5 lose in the first one than what Bioware did if I am honest.

1136342t54 wrote... Obviously from this second poll they seem to have actually payed attention to the votes since blonde shep didn't get any where near as many votes as she did in the first poll. You still haven't given a reason why you are ignoring Bioware.

As far as I recall freckled faced green eyed shepard polled absolutely no votes whatsoever yet for some reason she is in the second poll which is apparently supposed to be just about the hair colouring.

1136342t54 wrote... Stop being childish. I am seriously trying to debate with you and hell I even compromised earlier even though you were becoming annoying which I find peculiar for a supposed 40 yr old. Be honest you didn't even notice the differences until someone made a high res pic.

I am not the one being childish here, you keep saying the differences are there but they don't matter. The differences exist, they are known about and they can be seen and it will have an affect on the poll.

1136342t54 wrote... So because you supposedly haven't attacked anyone in the last five pages that supposed to make me ignore what you have posted throughout this thread?

I have recieved a hell of a lot of crap from posters in this thread too, but I ignore them. As far as I am aware I have not outright attacked or insulted anyone since I am well aware of Biowares terms and conditions on there board.

[Syledir]

didymos1120 wrote...

Syledir wrote...

But BioWare left that little fact out.

They didn't leave it out.  They decided after the first poll had been going to do a second one based on all the requests for that hairstyle but another color.  They couldn't have told people when they announced the first vote about something they didn't even know they were going to do yet.

In that case, they shouldn't have done it at all.

Imagine this happened in real life. "Sorry Mr. Obama but many supporters gave you their vote out of the fact that you are afro-american. So lets start a second poll. People can choose between Nelson Mandela, Denzel Washington, Barack Obama and Tiger Woods. Since you won the first poll with ease, it shouldn't be a problem to win the second poll aswell. What? No, I'm sure the Clinton and McCain supporters will hold no grudge against you. These are grown people. Surely they wouldn't vote for another candidate simply out of spite." Aha

Original #3, #4 and #6 supporters can't vote for their favourite femshep anymore, but they can vote against the one who beat them during the first poll. #5 supporters have every right to be pissed.

[TNT1991]

charmingcharlie wrote...


Yep I and 32,000 others voted for long haired, pale faced, mole ridden, blue eyed femshep.  She won the contest and the only question left was hair colour so the second poll should have featured 4 femsheps with a pale face, mole, long hair and blue eyes because that is what WON the first poll.

Yes, they (myself included) did and obviously (by the second poll) they now prefer any other color over blonde. And, just as it's stated by many others on this forum, the freckles, mole, and eye color was (and still is) hard to make out on facebook. All four of the pictures -on facebook- had green eyes and there was no way to get a good enough close-up to tell otherwise. By the way, they all have the same "pale face".  

[didymos1120]

Syledir wrote...


Imagine this happened in real life. *snip silliness that would never actually happen in a presidential election*

Yeah, well, a FB poll about video game box art doesn't really analogize well to presidential elections.  Hyperbolic silliness dismissed.

[gamer_girl]

charmingcharlie wrote...
People also now KNOW about the differences and will look for them and it alters the result. i really cannot believe you are trying to keep going "oh the differences are minor and won't make a difference" they will an eye colour change and a different complexion is hardly minor.

Knowing now doesn't bloody change anything. If people really cared that much they'd go back and change their vote. And most people still probably don't know. The only ones you can be certain know now are the ones that are on BSN and looked at this topic. And the only difference is the freckles. The eye colour is exactly the same. Like I said before to have someone with hair that red and not have freckles on them would be horrible. Never seen someone with hair rose red and did not have freckles.

As far as I recall freckled faced green eyed shepard polled absolutely no votes whatsoever yet for some reason she is in the second poll which is apparently supposed to be just about the hair colouring.

Had you actually READ what other people said you would know that they all have the exact same eye colour. The only difference that exists is one that is expected and realistic.

Modifié par gamer_girl, 19 août 2011 - 11:43 .

[charmingcharlie]

TNT1991 wrote... Yes, they (myself included) did and obviously (by the second poll) they now prefer any other color over blonde. And, just as it's stated by many others on this forum, the freckles, mole, and eye color was (and still is) hard to make out on facebook. All four of the pictures -on facebook- had green eyes and there was no way to get a good enough close-up to tell otherwise. By the way, they all have the same "pale face". 

It is still introducing changes to something we did NOT vote for.  The winner was femshep 5 if this poll is to be legitimate then the only change to the femsheps should have been the hair colour.  The changes they made to red haired femshep can be seen, they are known about and they are differences that can affect the result of the poll.

[1136342t54_]

charmingcharlie wrote...
People also now KNOW about the differences and will look for them and it alters the result. i really cannot believe you are trying to keep going "oh the differences are minor and won't make a difference" they will an eye colour change and a different complexion is hardly minor.

What people? Those who post in this thread? That is a small minority of people and they won't affect the vote so much that a specific Fem shep will win. 

Right now I'm not even saying the differences won't matter as a fact. I have said multiple times (which you now are ignoring) that it is my opinion that the differences are small. 

Yes the one you voted for lost, that is regretable there will always be losers in a poll. I would have much preferred to have seen femshep 5 lose in the first one than what Bioware did if I am honest.

The problem is you seem to generalize many people into groups and sometimes you aren't even consistent about it. In some of your posts you said its the red head supporters who were whining were responsible for the second poll. Then you were saying its everyone who didn't vote for Fem shep 5 got what they want from the second poll.

As far as I recall freckled faced green eyed shepard polled absolutely no votes whatsoever yet for some reason she is in the second poll which is apparently supposed to be just about the hair colouring.

So you ignore the other sheps that look basically the same because of the differences on a shepard that is difficult to see due to picture quality?

I am not the one being childish here, you keep saying the differences are there but they don't matter. The differences exist, they are known about and they can be seen and it will have an affect on the poll.

I'm saying that they are known about by a small minority (mostly those who post in this thread) so it wouldn't make much of a difference.

I have recieved a hell of a lot of crap from posters in this thread too, but I ignore them. As far as I am aware I have not outright attacked or insulted anyone since I am well aware of Biowares terms and conditions on there board.

You don't attack specific people you attacked a group of people like red head supporters. 

[Xeranx]

Syledir wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Syledir wrote...

But BioWare left that little fact out.

They didn't leave it out.  They decided after the first poll had been going to do a second one based on all the requests for that hairstyle but another color.  They couldn't have told people when they announced the first vote about something they didn't even know they were going to do yet.

In that case, they shouldn't have done it at all.

Imagine this happened in real life. "Sorry Mr. Obama but many supporters gave you their vote out of the fact that you are afro-american. So lets start a second poll. People can choose between Nelson Mandela, Denzel Washington, Barack Obama and Tiger Woods. Since you won the first poll with ease, it shouldn't be a problem to win the second poll aswell. What? No, I'm sure the Clinton and McCain supporters will hold no grudge against you. These are grown people. Surely they wouldn't vote for another candidate simply out of spite." Aha

Original #3, #4 and #6 supporters can't vote for their favourite femshep anymore, but they can vote against the one who beat them during the first poll. #5 supporters have every right to be pissed.

But we're still stuck with the one that won that poll.  Any victory we get from this is an extremely small victory.  It's the same as losing a war despite winning a battle.  The only joy that anyone gets from this is throwing the "deal with it" pics back in the faces of those who decided not to win gracefully because it angers them like their schtick angered some of us.

[Ophiskc]

Syledir wrote...
Imagine this happened in real life. "Sorry Mr. Obama but many supporters gave you their vote out of the fact that you are afro-american. So lets start a second poll. People can choose between Nelson Mandela, Denzel Washington, Barack Obama and Tiger Woods. Since you won the first poll with ease, it shouldn't be a problem to win the second poll aswell. What? No, I'm sure the Clinton and McCain supporters will hold no grudge against you. These are grown people. Surely they wouldn't vote for another candidate simply out of spite." Aha

Original #3, #4 and #6 supporters can't vote for their favourite femshep anymore, but they can vote against the one who beat them during the first poll. #5 supporters have every right to be pissed.

You're one of the less people i read so far that have some logic since all this poll mess started

[Shifty Assassin]

I like the black haired one and the blonde one. Dont know what to choose ughhh......

[1136342t54_]

KBomb wrote...

Did you even read the post didymos1120 made?

I've been reposting a post I wanted Charlie to respond to multiple times and he has ignored it. Even Gamer girl has been subject to similar treatment.

[didymos1120]

charmingcharlie wrote....

As far as I recall freckled faced green eyed shepard polled absolutely no votes whatsoever yet for some reason she is in the second poll which is apparently supposed to be just about the hair colouring.

Gee, it's almost as if people were voting based primarily on the hairstyle or something....