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1136342t54 wrote...
I've been reposting a post I wanted Charlie to respond to multiple times and he has ignored it. Even Gamer girl has been subject to similar treatment.


How about this answer me this question, does red haired femshep have green eyes ?  yes or no.  If she does have green eyes then that is a difference is it not ?

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didymos1120 wrote...

charmingcharlie wrote....

As far as I recall freckled faced green eyed shepard polled absolutely no votes whatsoever yet for some reason she is in the second poll which is apparently supposed to be just about the hair colouring.


Gee, it's almost as if people were voting based primarily on the hairstyle or something....



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Charlie considering that I have answered that question multiple times and you have yet to even respond to my post I am tempted to tell you to go shove it.

Today I'm just to polite for it.

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didymos1120 wrote...

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Imagine this happened in real life. *snip silliness that would never actually happen in a presidential election*


Yeah, well, a FB poll about video game box art doesn't really analogize well to presidential elections.  Hyperbolic silliness dismissed.

Of course it wouldn't happen in real life. But the second poll is just as silly. Let me rephrase.

"Sorry #5 but many supporters gave you their vote out of the fact that you have super cool hair. So lets start a second poll. People can choose between super cool blonde, ultra cool red, mega cool black and not so cool dark blonde. Since you won the first poll with ease, it shouldn't be a problem to win the second poll aswell. What? No, I'm sure the #3, #4 and #6 supporters will hold no grudge against you. These are grown people. Surely they wouldn't vote for another candidate simply out of spite." AhaImage IPB

Better?

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charmingcharlie wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...
I've been reposting a post I wanted Charlie to respond to multiple times and he has ignored it. Even Gamer girl has been subject to similar treatment.


How about this answer me this question, does red haired femshep have green eyes ?  yes or no.  If she does have green eyes then that is a difference is it not ?


Wow. You are selective. After just checking all the candidates and verifying they have the same color eyes you still bring this up. What part is in a language you do not understand so I can look for a translation?

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charmingcharlie wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...
I've been reposting a post I wanted Charlie to respond to multiple times and he has ignored it. Even Gamer girl has been subject to similar treatment.


How about this answer me this question, does red haired femshep have green eyes ?  yes or no.  If she does have green eyes then that is a difference is it not ?


Yes she does have green eyes. No it isn't a difference because every other option has the exact same eye colour! Image IPB

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1136342t54 wrote...

Charlie considering that I have answered that question multiple times and you have yet to even respond to my post I am tempted to tell you to go shove it.

Today I'm just to polite for it.


Oddly enough I feel exactly the same way about responding to your posts.  There are differences with red femshep and you obviously accept that, we did not vote for these changes so it could be argued they ignored the results of poll 1 to bring a new femshep into the voting process (1 we didn't vote for).  Now you are arguing that the changes are "minimal or can't be seen".  I don't see it that way, they can be seen, they are known about and they will affect the poll and it is unfair on the other three sheps that received no additional refinement for poll 2.

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Yes she does have green eyes. No it isn't a difference because every other option has the exact same eye colour! Image IPB


Perhaps due to the fact it is late at night here but could I just ask you to clarify what you are saying here ?  You are saying red haired shep has green eyes but what did you mean by "no it isn't a difference every other option has the same exact eye colour".

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charmingcharlie wrote...

[Oddly enough I feel exactly the same way about responding to your posts.  There are differences with red femshep and you obviously accept that, we did not vote for these changes so it could be argued they ignored the results of poll 1 to bring a new femshep into the voting process (1 we didn't vote for).  Now you are arguing that the changes are "minimal or can't be seen".  I don't see it that way, they can be seen, they are known about and they will affect the poll and it is unfair on the other three sheps that received no additional refinement for poll 2.




But they didn’t just change the redhead. They all have the exact same eye color, so your argument about how the redhead is “special” is built upon an already demolished platform.

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charmingcharlie wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Charlie considering that I have answered that question multiple times and you have yet to even respond to my post I am tempted to tell you to go shove it.

Today I'm just to polite for it.


Oddly enough I feel exactly the same way about responding to your posts.  There are differences with red femshep and you obviously accept that, we did not vote for these changes so it could be argued they ignored the results of poll 1 to bring a new femshep into the voting process (1 we didn't vote for).  Now you are arguing that the changes are "minimal or can't be seen".  I don't see it that way, they can be seen, they are known about and they will affect the poll and it is unfair on the other three sheps that received no additional refinement for poll 2.


Ok do you have a bloody blind spot that covers every good point people have made that invalidate you arguments? Cause it's either that or you're VERY selective about what you read. I really hope it's the former. And if it is, please go get your eyes fixed.

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charmingcharlie wrote...

Oddly enough I feel exactly the same way about responding to your posts.  There are differences with red femshep and you obviously accept that, we did not vote for these changes so it could be argued they ignored the results of poll 1 to bring a new femshep into the voting process (1 we didn't vote for).  Now you are arguing that the changes are "minimal or can't be seen".  I don't see it that way, they can be seen, they are known about and they will affect the poll and it is unfair on the other three sheps that received no additional refinement for poll 2.


You should literally feel surprised at how I haven't reduced your argument to "RABBLE RABBLE Red Shep has freckles and green eyes RABBLE RABBLE!!!" Unlike you I try not to do that.

I'm going to just use simple answers. If Bioware ignored the first poll then there would be no second poll.

I argued that the differences can't be seen due to bad quality pics.

They are known about by at the most a hundred or a bit more people.

If I obviously except there are differences why did you ask me that question and ignore my post again?

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But they didn’t just change the redhead. They all have the exact same eye color, so your argument about how the redhead is “special” is built upon an already demolished platform.


Erm no they don't it was shown way back as far as page 17 I believe that red hair femshep has green eyes and the rest have blue eyes.

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charmingcharlie wrote...

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Yes she does have green eyes. No it isn't a difference because every other option has the exact same eye colour! Image IPB


Perhaps due to the fact it is late at night here but could I just ask you to clarify what you are saying here ?  You are saying red haired shep has green eyes but what did you mean by "no it isn't a difference every other option has the same exact eye colour".

What I'm saying is that every option has the exact same eye colour. I bolded, underlined, and even highlighted it for you. Why was that so hard to get? <_<

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charmingcharlie wrote...

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I don't know if you are doing this on purpose or not but you are ignoring the parts in my posts that recognizes that the majority never saw the differences in the shepards so it wouldn't effect the majority vote.


You are just speculating that, you can't say what makes everyone vote whatever way. My argument about this second vote is that it is just as unfair as the first. You just keep saying "oh the differences don't really matter" well you don't know that unless you ask every single person that voted. I would say eye colour is just as important as hair colour and the fact that red femshep is the only one in that poll that has green eyes gives her an unfair advantage just like in poll 1 when blonde femshep had an unfair advantage with the hairstyle.


WTF? How can I be speculating when it is obvious that the only time anyone actually saw any differences is when the high res pics came up on BSN. No one knew it and there was even an argument over if the eyes was different. You literally have to try very hard to find differences. I'd bet most people who are voting aren't from BSN and is just using the Facebook pictures.

I'm still waiting for you to respond to this.

Edit: I'm waiting.

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charmingcharlie wrote...

Erm no they don't it was shown way back as far as page 17 I believe that red hair femshep has green eyes and the rest have blue eyes.


The fact that you have to come to this thread and actively look for some pics that show some differences for red head shep shows how much of a minority of people that actually sees any differences.

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gamer_girl wrote...  What I'm saying is that every option has the
exact same eye colour. I bolded, underlined, and even highlighted it
for you. Why was that so hard to get? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]


it is so hard to "get" because they DON'T red haired femshep has green eyes and the other three have blue eyes.  There that is a a difference that apparently does not matter.

1136342t54 wrote... WTF? How can I be speculating when it is obvious that the only time anyone actually saw any differences is when the high res pics came up on BSN. No one knew it and there was even an argument over if the eyes was different. You literally have to try very hard to find differences. I'd bet most people who are voting aren't from BSN and is just using the Facebook pictures.

I'm still waiting for you to respond to this.

Edit: I'm waiting.


Because the differences are there, word is spreading you can see the comments on face book.  It has an affect on the damn poll for gods sake.  How much of a difference is the question that no one can answer but in your view you think the affect will be "minimal".

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charmingcharlie wrote...

it is so hard to "get" because they DON'T red haired femshep has green eyes and the other three have blue eyes.  There that is a a difference that apparently does not matter.


Now you just trollin'.

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charmingcharlie wrote...

Because the differences are there, word is spreading you can see the comments on face book.  It has an affect on the damn poll for gods sake.  How much of a difference is the question that no one can answer but in your view you think the affect will be "minimal".



Okay. One more time. Did you read the post didymos1120 made about the eye color of the female shepards?

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charmingcharlie wrote...

Because the differences are there, word is spreading you can see the comments on face book.  It has an affect on the damn poll for gods sake.  How much of a difference is the question that no one can answer but in your view you think the affect will be "minimal".


Really? Even some people on BSN come on to this thread and still believe the eyes are exactly the same. I would have to ask my friend who is actually good at spotting these things to tell the difference but then he would think I was an idiot for actually trying to prove a point to someone who thinks that the eye color is a bigger difference than the hair color.

All I see on face book posts is go Red head shep go. I have only seen one maybe two Ginger posts and even then I don't see any posts that says "Oh look she has freckles this is wrong." or "Her green eyes makes this unfair."

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Now you just trollin'.


How the hell am I trolling ?  Is there some question here as to whether red haired femshep has green eyes or something ?  There are differences between red femshep and the other three, differences we didn't vote for.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Had to rephrase my post: of course people are seeing green eyes on Red 5, because she actually has them.  What I  was trying to get at was that people aren't picking up on the green eyes of the others because they don't expect them there.  Funnily enough, at least one person caught on and complained that Raven 5 would look better if she just had blue eyes. But a bunch of other commenters think she does have them.  With Blondie, you see a lot more comments about her "blue" eyes, likely because the expectation of them with a blonde is higher.  Again, though, a couple people caught on and complained that the blue eyes should be brought back.


The thing is when I first saw the pics I did think that they all had the same color eyes instead of the blonde but when I saw it again the blonde had freaking green eyes then all of them had green eyes. I expected blue so I guess that would make sense. Nice observation.

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@charmingcharlie- I really don't get why you keep saying that this vote is going against what 32K voted for in the poll. It is not, the one they voted for is still there! Why is it so hard to just click "like" again if they really wanted it?

And, based on voting in this poll, it turns out most of those voters didn't even want her to be blonde! It cannot be argued, facts cannot be argued. Screaming and crying "it's not faaaair" because your choice didn't win does not make the previously stated fact untrue.

Yes redhead Shep is different. But no one cares about green eyes and freckles, most people care about hair color. I never remember tons of comments going "this one with green eyes" like you heard "this one with red or black or brown hair". If redhead Shep's eyes were blue and she had no freckles she would still be winning. Why? Because people seem to want her to have red hair. Plus you can't even see their eye colors nor things like freckles on the Facebook poll pictures, so most voters don't even see those differences.

Granted, I have no idea why they made it different, but screaming about conspiracies is just silly speculation.

Urgh I don't know why I keep coming here, I don't care what color her hair is that much. I just get annoyed with pig headed people who refuse to see the truth, or even any other side of the argument but their own (then they expect you to see theirs. Two way street my friends). And yes, I do see other sides of the argument and I understand them very well. This annoyance includes the people who whined about Blonde Shep winning the 1st poll.

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I was checking some more posts for the red head shep and I only saw one "green eyes ftw." and one saying "Yay ginger where are the frecks?" Most people focus on the hair.

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Some people just have a really hard time accepting that not everyone likes the same things as them.

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charmingcharlie wrote...

justgimmedudedammit wrote...
Now you just trollin'.


How the hell am I trolling ?  Is there some question here as to whether red haired femshep has green eyes or something ?  There are differences between red femshep and the other three, differences we didn't vote for.


Seriously? It was YOU that made it a point of contention over the eye color. You were disproved. Is there a difference in facial complexion? Sure there is. It looks natural with Red. Is it enough to sway 32k voters? I can't answer that with a straight face. What I can answer is that Blondie was apparently not the choice a vast majority of voters wanted.

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1136342t54 wrote...

I was checking some more posts for the red head shep and I only saw one "green eyes ftw." and one saying "Yay ginger where are the frecks?" Most people focus on the hair.


It still has an affect on the poll the argument here is how much of an affect.  You insist it will be minimal and that is speculation on your part.  I personally do not know how much of an affect it will have on the poll, will it have as much of an affect as the "hair issue" probably not but it could have some bearing on the poll and it makes the poll unfair especially when the winner of "round 1" never had green eyes or freckles.