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Couple Questions about Berserker builds.


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Mocker22

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Hey guys, I'm messing around with building a S&S berserker and had a couple questions, mainly about the synergy between some abilities. The plan is for a high str build that really pumps wilpower big time when i hit 14 and get berserker. I am considering having upgraded might + Bravery as good crit boosting sustaineds, but I'm wondering if the 50% stam upkeep is gonna really kill berserk? I know stam regen isn't such an issue cause of deathblow but I'm also thinking after using Cleave and Barrage, plus maybe 1 r 2 CCCs robably shield bash something...... well just seems like there won't be a ton of stam left for berserk. Opinions?

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mr_afk

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Yeah, unfortunately if you're going to be using sustains you will probably be better of with pure strength (and just running down your stamina to nothing).

Berserk gives 15% of your remaining stamina as base damage. Willpower gives 5 stamina, or 0.75 base dmg in other words, whereas strength gives 0.5 base damage.

This means that at ~66% of your stamina (possibly a little lower due to starting stamina & equipment) you will deal the same damage as if you had pure strength.
At lower levels of stamina you will actually lose out damage.

This means that bravery kills most the gains from pumping willpower instead of strength base damage-wise. The only plus is maybe how you won't run out of stamina as fast (and need to chug potions or use second wind everytime you want to do something).

I would recommend skipping bravery if you take berserk, otherwise just use it situationally (e.g. when you're surrounded by heaps of enemies so the +%damage and crit chance increases make up for the loss in base damage).

It's up to you I guess.

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Mocker22

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Thanks for the advice. I'll probably just drop Bravery. I'll probably just stick with the classic Berserker/reaver setup, its still brutally effective.

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“Hey guys, I'm messing around with building a S&S berserker and had a couple questions, mainly about the synergy between some abilities. The plan is for a high str build that really pumps wilpower big time when i hit 14 and get berserker. I am considering having upgraded might + Bravery as good crit boosting sustaineds, but I'm wondering if the 50% stam upkeep is gonna really kill berserk? I know stam regen isn't such an issue cause of deathblow but I'm also thinking after using Cleave and Barrage, plus maybe 1 r 2 CCCs robably shield bash something...... well just seems like there won't be a ton of stam left for berserk. Opinions?”
Any sustain kills the dmg bonus from berserk. Bravery is inefficient (costs a lot of stamina for a mediocre effect) and situational (against 2 or less enemies it’s worthless) to begin with so I say drop it. You might want to drop might as well especially if you’re not packing rally to buff your teammates with it and you have a really low crit rate. I suggest getting enough str to get 100% atk vs grunts (buffs like heroic aura included) then maxing will. Equipping +stamina/mana gear also helps, usually generics. Then so that you don’t worry about attacking/buffing/spike damaging lowering your stamina too much have aveline in the party and have her cast rally (W/ control or might on you). At high stamina levels, the rally bonus will keep you at full stamina even if you have Bethany + Anders buffing you w/ dual hastes.
For the times rally is on cooldown then you’ll have to rely on your own stamina regen, stamina draughts and second wind. Remember the higher your stamina, the higher your stamina regen is. +stamina regen items are crap though. Have aveline get second wind as well so she can cast rally much more often.