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[Twistedfaith]

^, enough said really.

Regardless, blonde only won due to having the best hairstyle anyway, that much was given since the others, bar the last weren't..all that great.
Besides, go take your rage elsewhere, please. BW deal with too much rubbish and this thread fits perfectly under said tittle. Oh, don't forget you -CAN- change the damn haircolours in character creation anyway. This is simply for trailers and boxart, change it ingame, done, ten seconds maxed sheared of the start of your game play.

Modifié par Twistedfaith, 18 août 2011 - 12:41 .

[The Elder King]

Balek-Vriege wrote...

hhh89 wrote...



I have to say, ME CC generally sucks for both maleshep and femshep. The best face for maleshep that I saw so far was one created with Kaidan morph (with the Gibbed editor I think)

Agree, a totally revamped cc would make everyone happy I think.  Somehow I doubt it's gonna happen.

I don't have a lof of hope about a new (or greatly improved) CC. We'll get some new options, but I don't expect nothing big.
Oh well, I like the new femshep regardless the hair colour (though I want to see how they'll transport this face on the game) and Sheploo looks better now.

[Rockworm503]

Sepewrath wrote...

Rogue Unit wrote...

Don't worry this vote won't count either. Once people kick up a big enough ****storm, we'll have voting round 3, 4, 5, and 6.

Yep pretty much, all BW has done here is shown once again, how willing they are to cave if you whine enough. Great message to send, because now they will never hear the end of it. Every pixel that people don't like, they will complain until its fixed the way they want. They opened the flood gates on this one, should have manned up and stuck by your first vote.

This is my knee jerk reaction to it as well. But when I thought about it there is no indication that Bioware didn't plan this from the start.

[Rockworm503]

vincor32 wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

They haven't disregarded the first vote... all the options in the second vote are almost exactly the same as the winner of the first vote, the only difference is the hair colour (and in redshep's case, the eye colour and freckles).

In comparison to the first vote's options for different face shapes, skin colour, hairstyles, etc, this vote is just a tweak.

still a tweak. you dont tweak votes. you give people what they voted for. like blonde femsheps and healthcare.

I'm starting to think you have an agenda outside of the femshep thing.  constantly bringing up real world politics is just hurting your argument.

[Knight of Dane]

Rockworm503 wrote...
HOW the F do you know that they didn't plan a second vote from the start?  BEsides if this is screwing with the majority than Blonde would still be winning.
Ironic that Redhead is now winning and your crying foul when thats how majority votes work.  Cry all you want but your wanting exactly what your complaining about.

Because it's obvious, then they would have had to have light hair planned for the dark skinned as well, those don't go together without it being dyed hair, then we might as well just get the cc options.

If bioware from the start had intended a poll for haircolor, then they would have released the first pictures in black and white or just white hair for all haircuts.
Impossible to say who would have won then..

[Rockworm503]

Sepewrath wrote...

Chrismm wrote...

The first vote was not "discarded" people!. If you all pay attention youll realise that its the same shepard were voting on only this time we are choosing the hair colour. and you CAN vote for the exact same colour that you voted for the first time...there is nothing wrong with this! Its just more choice to players....no need for the complainig at all.

Of course they did, they made this second vote, solely for the redhead to win. Obviously less people are going to vote the second time around and the people that will surely vote, are the ones voting AGAINST the blonde. Hence the blonde has no chance of winning. I didn't even vote for the blonde the first time, but it was a legit vote and she won fair and square. This one isn't legit and I don't like that BW is insulting people's intelligence and trying to pretend that is it. Hell it would still be cowardly, but I would rather they avoid they front and just change her to a redhead. Come out and say "They complained long enough, so they win" Why pretend its anything else.

OH thats how voting works we get to decide which ones are legit!  Ok Ummm none of it is real and my shep is going to be on the box because I said so!
Yay entitelemnt is fun.
So not surprised all the butthurt over something so trivial as a hair color with PC Gamer crying foul over women's rights over it people blow things so out of purportion I'm surprised there isn't riots in the streets.

[Aquedius]

I'm just sad that people's bias over blondes seems to be damaging an otherwise great looking character this harshly.

[Rockworm503]

Knight of Dane wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...
HOW the F do you know that they didn't plan a second vote from the start?  BEsides if this is screwing with the majority than Blonde would still be winning.
Ironic that Redhead is now winning and your crying foul when thats how majority votes work.  Cry all you want but your wanting exactly what your complaining about.

Because it's obvious, then they would have had to have light hair planned for the dark skinned as well, those don't go together without it being dyed hair, then we might as well just get the cc options.

If bioware from the start had intended a poll for haircolor, then they would have released the first pictures in black and white or just white hair for all haircuts.
Impossible to say who would have won then..

Funny with your signature.
Didn't it used to say Deal With It?
Now its not going your way and you can't deal with it?
This is the best Irony I've seen in months.
This is why I didn't vote I saw all this coming.

[Rockworm503]

All this thread proves that you can't talk to some people.

[Vyse_Fina]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Funny with your signature.
Didn't it used to say Deal With It?
Now its not going your way and you can't deal with it?
This is the best Irony I've seen in months.
This is why I didn't vote I saw all this coming.

Not the exact words I would have used, but yeah, that's about it. The ones who called everyone "whiners" after the first poll are now whineing themselves. The majority seems to only be right when you're part of it...
What I don't get is this though: Did the people who are complaining now seriously vote for this version ONLY because she was blonde? Was that really ALL that factored ito it? (Do the people who complain now even play as femShep?)

Anyway, I hope this whole mess surrounding the polls thaught Bioware a lesson about letting fans decide on anything. It doesn't work. The minority always ****es and the majority usually has no clue about anything to begin with. Everone tries to vote for what looks the most like heir own custom Shep (or fantasy of her) and get pissed when other versions win.

[spirosz]

Didn't most people pick the blonde one specifically because of the hair style, not because of the hair colour? That's the vibe I was getting at least and I believe Bioware was going off that impression as well. For this hair style specifically, I find the dark brunette/black fits really well.

[Balek-Vriege]

Kings19 wrote...

Does anyone who's worked in game development or modeling know whether it would be difficult or not for Bioware to just include all 4 hair colors as options in character creation?

I haven't, but I have deifnitely worked on my own mods for things like DAO, FO3 and FONV (for example hair in pic and my custom armor in same, being my sexy super blood mage warden ready to take over the world with Darkspawn hybri.... *cough* ...anyways).

Once you have a default model, it doesn't take much to duplicate.  I usually have like 4 variations of textures going at once.  Bioware has a couple options:

1. Make 1 high res default character for marketing and ingame, saving space by having a few less high res textures.  Also saves a bit on time and you can have a very detailed face with less work, since your not dealing with tint maps (a texture file which governs what areas of a texture which can be changed by various colour tints).

2. Make 1 high res preset for marketing and one with tint maps ingame.  Usually means you can change colour, but textures won't be as detailed because a lot of colours have to be taken into account from jet black to super platinum white, and it takes a lot of work making the tint map look good for all.

3.  Make 1 high res for marketing and one ingame with all cc options (tint maps, complexion (normal/bump/whatever map) changes.  Would be the same as 2, but even less detailed.

4.  Make multiple high res Femsheps.  Very doable but would leave Maleshep in the dust.

Half the time it seems 2 and 3's weakenesses are avoidable with a bit of work and time.  I come accross some stuff in games like armor models and think to myself "I'm a noob modder and fixed this clipping issue in 5 minutes with blender.  How come Devs couldn't do this?"  Same goes for diffuse, normal and tint map textures.  You can add a lot of detail to them if you have the time.  I guess there's a time and memory usage restriction on many devs.

Modifié par Balek-Vriege, 18 août 2011 - 01:09 .

[Knight of Dane]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...
HOW the F do you know that they didn't plan a second vote from the start?  BEsides if this is screwing with the majority than Blonde would still be winning.
Ironic that Redhead is now winning and your crying foul when thats how majority votes work.  Cry all you want but your wanting exactly what your complaining about.

Because it's obvious, then they would have had to have light hair planned for the dark skinned as well, those don't go together without it being dyed hair, then we might as well just get the cc options.

If bioware from the start had intended a poll for haircolor, then they would have released the first pictures in black and white or just white hair for all haircuts.
Impossible to say who would have won then..

Funny with your signature.
Didn't it used to say Deal With It?
Now its not going your way and you can't deal with it?
This is the best Irony I've seen in months.
This is why I didn't vote I saw all this coming.

You see irony where there is none, for i did not use it when it said "deal with it" i find that offensive myself.
Your attembts at leading the discussion off track are pathetic.

[wicked117]

 Bah. I'm done with the whole vote. I like blonde the best but if red wins that's fine. I wish that they didn't take the beauty mark away and replace it with the freckles<_< but whatever. I just want the trailer!! No, wait. Scratch that. I just want the game! 

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

wicked117 wrote...

 Bah. I'm done with the whole vote. I like blonde the best but if red wins that's fine. I wish that they didn't take the beauty mark away and replace it with the freckles<_< but whatever. I just want the trailer!! No, wait. Scratch that. I just want the game! 

Bravo ma'am,bravo. Maturity,I thought it was lost.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 18 août 2011 - 01:27 .

[JayhartRIC]

Where is the redhead "Deal with it" pic?

[LilyasAvalon]

I still say we use default female Shep from ME1 and ME2.

I was all for Shep 5# at first but after all the 'anti'-sexism b$#%@ing about her being a 'Barbie', I'm sick and tired of all this.

[KBomb]

Lol at people complaining about Bioware caving into fan service. Had they not caved into fan service, there wouldn’t even be a need for this dumb vote because femShep wouldn’t be getting a fraction of this attention.

[Arppis]

It's hilarious when people call people with blonde hair redheads for one. Seems like these haircolor terms are reaaaally loose.

[Rockworm503]

Knight of Dane wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...
HOW the F do you know that they didn't plan a second vote from the start?  BEsides if this is screwing with the majority than Blonde would still be winning.
Ironic that Redhead is now winning and your crying foul when thats how majority votes work.  Cry all you want but your wanting exactly what your complaining about.

Because it's obvious, then they would have had to have light hair planned for the dark skinned as well, those don't go together without it being dyed hair, then we might as well just get the cc options.

If bioware from the start had intended a poll for haircolor, then they would have released the first pictures in black and white or just white hair for all haircuts.
Impossible to say who would have won then..

Funny with your signature.
Didn't it used to say Deal With It?
Now its not going your way and you can't deal with it?
This is the best Irony I've seen in months.
This is why I didn't vote I saw all this coming.

You see irony where there is none, for i did not use it when it said "deal with it" i find that offensive myself.
Your attembts at leading the discussion off track are pathetic.

When the discussion is as pathetic as this I don't try very hard.

[Zkyire]

Balek-Vriege wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

I have to say, ME CC generally sucks for both maleshep and femshep. The best face for maleshep that I saw so far was one created with Kaidan morph (with the Gibbed editor I think)

Agree, a totally revamped cc would make everyone happy I think.  Somehow I doubt it's gonna happen.

This please. I use Sheploo in every one of my playthroughs because the CC just isn't that great.

The Dragon Age CC on the other hand is awesome.

[Ulicus]

Honestly, I'm just concerned that while that particular shade of red hair looks good with N7 armour, it's going to clash *really* badly with an Alliance or Cerberus uniform.

*tumbleweed*

What?

Modifié par Ulicus, 18 août 2011 - 02:18 .

[CroGamer002]

2nd "blonde" is more brunette.

[Arppis]

JayhartRIC wrote...

Where is the redhead "Deal with it" pic?

Blonde supporters don't cry so much, maybe?

[DCarter]

Can't believe people hold such high morals for the vote of the hair colour of a character on the box art of a video game.