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[Guanxi]

Chewin3 wrote...

Guanxi wrote...

 I don't get why people keep saying that Kaidan outranks Shepard... Kaidan is staff commander Alenko, Shepard is a full blown commander

There is no "full blown commander"

Shepard has never been called a staff-commander ever to my knowledge.... we still don't know for sure that Shepard is in fact a staff-commander and whether or not there is a more senior rank of commander not listed on that page.

Modifié par Guanxi, 18 août 2011 - 01:55 .

[JukeFrog]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

...So if our new crew are Alliance soliders, what happened to our old crew? Like Gardner, Donnelly and Gabriella?

They'll probably get transferred to the new Normandy. Cerberus and the Alliance apparently use the same HR department.

Phaedon wrote...

I think that Anderson refers to him as
"Lieutenant" in the ending of the Earth level. Casey himself says that
"Joker is probably in there"

Anderson was talking to Ashley in the Earth level.

http://www.youtube.c...NJSLtk#t=03m44s

Modifié par JukeFrog, 18 août 2011 - 02:04 .

[Rovay]

Seems logical. Alliance would probably want people loyal to them, not Cerberus. Besides, whole Cerberus crew (except Joker and Chakwas) is dead in my every playthrough, so I could use some replacements.

[Bad King]

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

FDrage wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

The Alliance woulnd't retrofit the Normandy and leave an illegal and potentially dangerous AI in the ship that would be stupid.

they might not have much of a choice ... beside ripping everything out and rebuilding the Normany instead of retro-fitting.

It wouldn't be hard to kill EDI. All they'd have to do is destroy the AI core which is her 'brain' if you destroy that than she'd be gone. It wouldn't be an overly difficult thing to do at all.

I doubt that the Alliance would destroy EDI- she's potentially a very useful resource. They'd probably try and keep her secret from the Council.

[packardbell]

Hopefully they bring back Adams.

[Bad King]

Guanxi wrote...

Chewin3 wrote...

Guanxi wrote...

 I don't get why people keep saying that Kaidan outranks Shepard... Kaidan is staff commander Alenko, Shepard is a full blown commander

There is no "full blown commander"

Shepard has never been called a staff-commander ever to my knowledge.... we still don't know for sure that Shepard is in fact a staff-commander and whether or not there is a more senior rank of commander not listed on that page.

I'm pretty sure that he's a confirmed Lieutenant Commander.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Bad King wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

FDrage wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...

The Alliance woulnd't retrofit the Normandy and leave an illegal and potentially dangerous AI in the ship that would be stupid.

they might not have much of a choice ... beside ripping everything out and rebuilding the Normany instead of retro-fitting.

It wouldn't be hard to kill EDI. All they'd have to do is destroy the AI core which is her 'brain' if you destroy that than she'd be gone. It wouldn't be an overly difficult thing to do at all.

I doubt that the Alliance would destroy EDI- she's potentially a very useful resource. They'd probably try and keep her secret from the Council.

Which means if they had no problem keeping EDI if she can be useful than they'd be willing to keep Ken and Gabby around if they can be of use.

[corrin1984]

Well, chances are the people like Kelly, Chakwas, Ken and Gabby will be making a return as part of the Normandy's crew. There's nothing saying that civilians can't work on an Alliance Vessel. After all, Tali, Wrex and Garrus served on the first Normandy, and they weren't part of the Alliance. Talui was even allowed to tinker with the systems. And as far as if they are going to be arrested... no... Shepard acted on his own during the mission during Arrival, with no help from the crew of the Normandy SR2; under strict orders from Admiral Hackett to go in alone. Working with Cerberus? Yes, that's bad, it's a terrorist organization... except that they were working for Shepard and avoided a Reaper threat. They assisted in discovering the reasons behind the human colony abductions... if anything, they'd get a pardon on that. And the only reason Shepard is arrested in the first place is because he destroyed an entire Batarian colony. Was that for the best? Of course. Was it still slaughtering an entire colony? Yes.

For the idea about Askley/Kaiden taking over the Normandy... we aren't sure they can. Not that they won't try... but lets face it. The crew follows Shepard... not the VS. Same thing when Jack refused to follow Miranda when she suggested leading the fire team during the suicide mission. The crew will follow Shepard to hell... they don't have that loyalty to the VS. Worse thing that happens is that the VS will try to start a mutiny and end up thrown out the airlock.

[Leonia]

Bad King wrote...

Guanxi wrote...

Chewin3 wrote...

Guanxi wrote...

 I don't get why people keep saying that Kaidan outranks Shepard... Kaidan is staff commander Alenko, Shepard is a full blown commander

There is no "full blown commander"

Shepard has never been called a staff-commander ever to my knowledge.... we still don't know for sure that Shepard is in fact a staff-commander and whether or not there is a more senior rank of commander not listed on that page.

I'm pretty sure that he's a confirmed Lieutenant Commander.

Indeed.

And for more evidence of that, Kaidan was said to be one rank below Shepard in ME1 and rose two ranks in the two years since Shepard's "death".

[LilyasAvalon]

Doesn't Shepard get some sort of promotion for saving humanity from the collectors? I mean, it's due.

[MysteryNotes]

Robhuzz wrote...

Well you couldn't seriously be surprised about this. The Alliance repossessing a Cerberus ship and leaving the Cerberus crew to serve on it would be rather weird.

Cerberus didn't take it from the alliance, Cerberus BUILT the Normandy SR-2 speecially for Shepard.

[Icinix]

Excellent.

Heres hoping they salute me everytime I go past unlike those disrespectful gas baggers on the SR2 under Cerberus.

[Massadonious1]

Except that EDI (especially an ushackled EDI, if the Alliance chooses to keep her that way) would be 100x more useful than anyone or anything else they can keep or bring back.

If they're going back to their Alliance roots, then Engineer Adams makes sense. Or the three of them combined, who knows. It's not like any one of them really stood out, "performance" wise. It's not like we called down to them, Star Trek style, and ask them for "MOAR POWER!"

[Icinix]

Massadonious1 wrote...

Except that EDI (especially an ushackled EDI, if the Alliance chooses to keep her that way) would be 100x more useful than anyone or anything else they can keep or bring back.

If they're going back to their Alliance roots, then Engineer Adams makes sense. Or the three of them combined, who knows. It's not like any one of them really stood out, "performance" wise. It's not like we called down to them, Star Trek style, and ask them for "MOAR POWER!"

Although, it would be totally awesome if there were a few scenes like that in ME3.

But then again, I've been bucking for space combat controlled via dialogue (ala ME1 Citadel Assault) since I got on these forums.  But seriously, being able to actually yell at the three of them while they're running around would be excellent.

[RocketManSR2]

Phaedon wrote...

Looks like the crew of the Normandy are Alliance soldiers. That's pretty interesting, I think. The fact that not only the Normandy is refitted but also has an active crew could be important. For all we know, Ashley or Kaiden were to be using that ship to fulfill their Spectre duties.

That is a very interesting point. It also makes me angry that Shepard is basically guilty before the trial even starts. It sounds like he/she was supposed to be railroaded to a court-martial and executed just to satisfy the batarians. The very thought turns my stomach.

[RocketManSR2]

jreezy wrote...

Ashley using the Normandy to fulfill her Spectre duties seems unlikely.

It makes sense to me. I wouldn't be surprised if the Normandy is already under her command or was moments from it, just waiting for Shepard to be found guilty.

[oberst2]

he or she may drop off the crew at shadow broker base or with wrex,citadel etc befor turn him or she in alliance the normandy can be fuction with only edi, joker and sheperd

[Quething]

Mims wrote...

EDI is pretty smart though. I'm sure she could pretend to be a VI while the Normandy was being fixed up. Most people don't go assuming a ship as an AI, unless Shepard reported it to them.

I'm more concerned about fighting Ashley/Kaidan for my bunk. This will be war, VS.

Why would I fight Ash for my bunk? She just needs to scoot over a couple feet.

I'm glad to be with an Alliance crew again. The SR-2 crew may be loyal to me after I saved them from the milkshaker, but I'm not what you might call particularly loyal to them. They're welcome to disperse back to the eezo rigs and outer colonies whence they came. Main!Shep wants a crew who's loyal to the ideals and service she swore an oath to, not to a single individual (even if that individual is her).

Plus, those douches don't just not salute, they don't even know how (check out that weird left-hand animation from the guy guarding Legion after the Reaper).

[Elvis_Mazur]

I wouldn't be surprised if the old crew member were re-recruited by the Alliance.

[Rahmiel]

PetrySilva wrote...

I wouldn't be surprised if the old crew member were re-recruited by the Alliance.

I would be.  Remember, a lot of the crew from the SR2 were former alliance that left because they could no longer stand the alliance, or like Joker, saw a reduced role and decided to leave.  That's not exactly good material for a good crew.

I wouldn't doubt that the alliance could make use of them when the reapers attack, but they're not convinced of that from what we know.  So in the interim, while shepard is awaiting trial, I would think the crew would be arrested and imprisoned as well.  Their trials are likely to follow shepard's.  But once the Reapers attack, I wouldn't be surprised if the alliance is like.. well ****.  Everyone for themselves!

I'd be disappointed of the SR2 is crewed by former Cerberus from ME2.  I wouldn't have a problem if we went around and found some willing to join us, but to expect the whole crew there and the alliance saying "no harm, no foul" is quite the stretch.  The ONLY way I could see that happening, is if it's revealed that Cerberus is in fact, a former top secret alliance faction as an end around way of avoiding citadel law and treaties.  Which.. is not that far fetched.  But again, that'd have to be revealed.

In either case.. I'm more interested in what will happen to EDI.  The alliance has always been interested in AI's, but have always taken great care with them.  EDI is unshackled.. so.. I'm really curious to find out what the alliance thought/did about EDI.

[ZeroEquat1on]

[/quote]

Anderson was talking to Ashley in the Earth level.

http://www.youtube.c...NJSLtk#t=03m44s


[/quote]

He was talking to Shepard actually not Ash.

[Clonedzero]

well that much was obvious. though if you're gonna go through the trouble of having a spoiler tag in your title, best not to put the spoiler in the title lol.

though it was super obvious, but just for future reference.,

[Red Son Rising]

the minute shepard steps foot on the normandy everyone on board knows whose in charge and it aint the council or the alliance: shepard runs the normandy, period
http://youtu.be/vOg-nLWe71w?t=25s
Shepard:1, VS: 0

[Art3m]

Something's definitely changed inside the ship. And Sheploo now looks like old Freddie.

Modifié par Art3mShepard, 18 août 2011 - 03:07 .

[Darkelefantos1]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Doesn't Shepard get some sort of promotion for saving humanity from the collectors? I mean, it's due.

Seeing as he is/was Spectre as well as KIA for 2 years, I don't think he has any military rank... As much as the Alliance wants it, a Spectre is not part of the military, just like a dead body.