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[RussianSpy27]

Anyone remembers how FreeSpace 2 ended? A portal star had to be destroyed to not allow super powerful aliens called Shedans enter Human and Vasudan space ( &  ) but doing so created massive damage and if my memory serves me right prevented intergalactic travel at some level. 

It was mentioned that we shouldn't expect a lovy-dovy end of ME3 akin to SW: A New Hope.  So...something bittersweet is to be expected. 

In Arrival, an entire system was sacrificed, along with a whole relay. 

Another point is that one Reaper was barely taken down by Citadel and Allience forces. Dozens, if not hundreds/thousands are on route. Something tells me that it's possible that Shepard and Co will destroy majority of Mass Relays in Mikly Way, preventing most of the reaper army from appearing while spending most armies to destroy those that did make it through. 

Result: Galaxy is saved. However, (aside from casualties and lost planets), the whole point of Mass Effect - intergalactic relays - will cease to exist, making travel only possible within the viscinity of your star system. Thus, our favorite characters will have to say good bye to each other foreever...alive and yet separated by millions of light years...

[Zkyire]

RussianSpy27 wrote...

Anyone remembers how FreeSpace 2 ended? A portal star had to be destroyed to not allow super powerful aliens called Shedans enter Human and Vasudan space ( &  ) but doing so created massive damage and if my memory serves me right prevented intergalactic travel at some level. 

It was mentioned that we shouldn't expect a lovy-dovy end of ME3 akin to SW: A New Hope.  So...something bittersweet is to be expected. 

In Arrival, an entire system was sacrificed, along with a whole relay. 

Another point is that one Reaper was barely taken down by Citadel and Allience forces. Dozens, if not hundreds/thousands are on route. Something tells me that it's possible that Shepard and Co will destroy majority of Mass Relays in Mikly Way, preventing most of the reaper army from appearing while spending most armies to destroy those that did make it through. 

Result: Galaxy is saved. However, (aside from casualties and lost planets), the whole point of Mass Effect - intergalactic relays - will cease to exist, making travel only possible within the viscinity of your star system. Thus, our favorite characters will have to say good bye to each other foreever...alive and yet separated by millions of light years...

Maybe, but not forever.

The protheans developed their own small-scale relay, meaning they were closer to making the bigger ones in a generation or two.

Yes the races would be cut off, but it's only a matter of time before they end up making their own.

Or, they'll finally stop relying on Mass Effect tech and start to develop on their own and discover some new means of travel.

Sad on the short term, with a positive outlook on the future.

[Candidate 88766]

It'd be a bittersweet ending - save the galaxy at the cost of civilization as we know it. Colonies of each species would be cut off from each other.

To get another system of Relays set up would require travelling the full distance between them initially, which could take centuries. Maybe they could eventually have a new network, but by that time many civilizations may have forgotten about each other.

[GreenSoda]

I'd find it fitting if we actually would loose Earth, but save the universe in turn.

...doubt it, though.

[RussianSpy27]

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

Maybe, but not forever.

The protheans developed their own small-scale relay, meaning they were closer to making the bigger ones in a generation or two.

Yes the races would be cut off, but it's only a matter of time before they end up making their own.

Or, they'll finally stop relying on Mass Effect tech and start to develop on their own and discover some new means of travel.

Sad on the short term, with a positive outlook on the future.

True...and next non Shepard-centered game in ME series will focus on discovering new technology

[RussianSpy27]

GreenSoda wrote...

I'd find it fitting if we actually would loose Earth, but save the universe in turn.

...doubt it, though.

Humans turning into an Earthless Migrant Fleet #2 akin to Battlestar Galactica?  Unlikely...

I wonder if inter-space communication will still be availible. After relays are cut off, will my Shepard be able to talk to Tali over video like with Illusive man, so she can take her suit off in a virus-free chamber? 

[Reptillius]

This actually seems highly unlikely... As much as people like to make it that way. It wasn't a matter of barely taking down Sovereign... though we can't be sure jsut what disabled it for those final shots... The 5th fleet for example even if it dives in and loses more ships to save the destiny's Ascension still doesn't take heavy losses and the cinematic and the way the ending needs to go gets in the way of us being able to tell truely just how much the largest reapers can withstand. The smaller ones are certainly going to be easier to destroy. So while we know they are hard we don't actually know how hard

This also ignores the issue that Arrival clearly points out that destroying of the Mass Relays does nothing to actually stop the reapers. It just slows them down.

Another Point of contention is that our weapons are becoming more advanced with more power than the ones used on Sovereign. If you recall there was little damage to the collector ship until we used the Thannix cannon as well but that made a world of difference. The Thannix cannon being a tech that not only the alliance is getting their hands on at the start of ME3 but the Turians were also putting into production on their new war ships they were building after ME1 and into ME2.

The two Main Forces involved in the attack on Saren suddenly find it a lot easier to shoot at and potentially shoot down Reapers.

On top of that we still have never actually seen a carrier or a Dreadnaught in action against a Reaper of any size.

And one final note. If it was going to be something like that... It would be easier to abandon and disable or destroy the citadel than blow up individual Mass Relays.

[krzimmer]

That... would actually make a good ending.  Not exactly the happiest ending, but a good one, and that's what matters to me. 

Oh no, a horrible possibility just occurred to me.  Destroying the ability of galactic travel in order to stop the reapers is one thing.... but imagine having to make that choice while your LI is light years away!     DUN DUN DUN!!! 

Modifié par krzimmer, 18 août 2011 - 07:43 .

[Ramus Quaritch]

My guess is that you'll have the option to sacrifice one system (probably Sol) by destroying the Mass Relay of that system with all of the Reapers inside it. This'll lead up to the moral dilemma of sacrificing Earth and killing billions of humans to stop the Reapers.

[Gill Kaiser]

I reckon it'll be the Citadel that has to be sacrificed, if it's anything.

[Davie McG]

I would be satisfied by this ending, however Russianspy27 I think forgets that humanity has about a dozen colonies. If we had to sacrifice earth that doesn't mean we'd be without a planet.

I could be mistaken but if memory serves we as a species only need a population of about 200 000 to have a viable population that could begin a new.

It would take tens of thousands of years to again have the numbers of even 50 years ago but we would survive.

Sacrificing your LI to give humanity and others this chance would be worth it in my eyes.

[RussianSpy27]

Arcian wrote...

... separated by millions of light years? What the actual f**k, OP? The milky way is 100,000 light years across. With fast ships it only takes a few years to go from one end of the galaxy to the other.

Ok 100,000 light years. How much faster do you think Mass Effect drive than light speed is? Even if 200 as suggested by Wikia, then 100,000/200 = 500 light years. 

[RussianSpy27]

Davie McG wrote...

I would be satisfied by this ending, however Russianspy27 I think forgets that humanity has about a dozen colonies. If we had to sacrifice earth that doesn't mean we'd be without a planet.

I could be mistaken but if memory serves we as a species only need a population of about 200 000 to have a viable population that could begin a new.

It would take tens of thousands of years to again have the numbers of even 50 years ago but we would survive.

Sacrificing your LI to give humanity and others this chance would be worth it in my eyes.

It's not that we would stop existing as species, but our contact with other worlds would be extremely minimal or non-existent if all mass relays are destroyed. 

[Davie McG]

RussianSpy27 wrote...

It's not that we would stop existing as species, but our contact with other worlds would be extremely minimal or non-existent if all mass relays are destroyed. 

That's true, could take years at FTL to get to other star systems. I think there would still be contact but it would be much more reduced.

[ThePwener]

I really doubt that OP. Bw said that the key would appear half-way through the game and that it would change and shift depending on the way you progress and what you do, so it won't be the same thing for everyone.

[MrFob]

I thought about something like that as well. Lure the reapers into isolated systems. Destroy the mass relay network and trap them there. ither they will run out of energy eventually or at least it will give everyone decades, if not centuries to come up with a solution.
I doubt it's going to happen though. There are a coulpe of problems with the plan and BW will want to keep the ME universe alive after ME3.
It would be a fitful sacrifice for a victory though.

@ Arcian: There is a problem with your calculation as well. Traveling in FTL charges your ME core. You need to ground your ship every now and so often which you cannot do in between star clusters. Therefore the clusters are natural bounderies to travel without the mass relays.

Modifié par MrFob, 19 août 2011 - 07:44 .

[Savber100]

ThePwener wrote...

I really doubt that OP. Bw said that the key would appear half-way through the game and that it would change and shift depending on the way you progress and what you do, so it won't be the same thing for everyone.

I recall Hudson saying something like this. Do you happen to know the source for this comment? Was it on Twiiter? 

[ThePwener]

Savber100 wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

I really doubt that OP. Bw said that the key would appear half-way through the game and that it would change and shift depending on the way you progress and what you do, so it won't be the same thing for everyone.

I recall Hudson saying something like this. Do you happen to know the source for this comment? Was it on Twiiter? 

I... don't... remember.....

I read it months ago when the first tid-bits of ME3 came out. Ask Phaedon, he's a ME encyclopedia.

[SandTrout]

@Arcian,

Good work with the numbers. The kind of ending that the OP is talking about would still happen, though to a lesser extent. Intergalactic commerce would be crippled, but individual colonies would not be completely isolated. The problem would be that transportation between them would become prohibitively expensive, with months of travel in between colonies, similar to trade across the Atlantic during the colonial period of history.

The total socioeconomic results would be difficult to predict, but I would expect that most colonies would become self-governing in short order, and cultures would differentiate regardless of intermittent contact with outside forces.

Modifié par SandTrout, 19 août 2011 - 07:56 .

[ThePwener]

Arcian wrote...

Oh my god, are you serious? Do you honestly think space is empty between star clusters?

Can a mass effect core be dischraged on large asteroids? Hmmm.....

[SandTrout]

ThePwener wrote...

Can a mass effect core be dischraged on large asteroids? Hmmm.....

Yes. This is explicitly stated in the codex.

[ThePwener]

SandTrout wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

Can a mass effect core be dischraged on large asteroids? Hmmm.....

Yes. This is explicitly stated in the codex.

It is? Damn, I gotta start reading better....