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[Mr.House]

Phaedon wrote...

Mr.House wrote...
Read the thread title and you will understand the point of the thread instead of getting your knickers in a twist and hoping on the defending train.

Umm...to troll?

They are obviously there to fix the problem that existed with CQC and melee combat in the previous two games, and especially ME2. There were other problems in ME1, that by the time you got to melee, you would be busy raging over them to notice anything else.

Nah it was to make fun of Bioware and there overuse of awesome, the awesome button joke was a giveaway, you call troll, I call making fun off and thus it has created debates with other people, mission done. Want to play cards?

Modifié par Mr.House, 18 août 2011 - 08:17 .

[Sgt Stryker]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Haven't you heard?

<snip>

It's a palm strike now.

It's not the palm that does the damage.

EDIT: So you wrote this thread to... evoke an emotional response from the community? Sounds like that fits the definition of trolling to me!

http://en.wikipedia....roll_(Internet)

Modifié par Sgt Stryker, 18 août 2011 - 08:18 .

[Phaedon]

Hell, even iakus accepts the justification.

EDIT: Mr. House, trolls used to be fun. You are not supposed to admit it until the 10th page.

Modifié par Phaedon, 18 août 2011 - 08:18 .

[Chewin]

Sgt Stryker wrote...
It's not the palm that does the damage.

You want it to be more specific? Biotic palm strike?

[CroGamer002]

Mr.House wrote...

2 year gap between ME and ME2
6 month gap between ME2 and ME3

The blades are not even mentinoed in the horrible books.

Let's just ignore you missed my point again, but what makes you think Omni-blade can't be created in 6 months gap?

[Texhnolyze101]

sp0ck 06 wrote...

Things that are awesome should not be allowed in mass effect, its catering to the casual xbox kids who play cod. There should be no cutscenes, explosions or space battles. In fact. ME3 should be redesigned to a text based adventure where the player must learn every alien language on his/her own.

I like this idea:wub:

[Mr.House]

Mesina2 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

2 year gap between ME and ME2
6 month gap between ME2 and ME3

The blades are not even mentinoed in the horrible books.

Let's just ignore you missed my point again, but what makes you think Omni-blade can't be created in 6 months gap?

If they where created in that gap then why are they not mentinoed in the last book we had that takes place a good chunk after ME2 and before ME3?

[littlezack]

Mr.House wrote...

littlezack wrote...

Dionkey wrote...

littlezack wrote...
Do you ever just play a game? Does every little thing have to be explained in mind-numbing detail?

If a game is founded upon science then I expect it to try to stay true to a huge majority of the science. If a game outright says that it is unrealistic from the beginning, I will suspend my disbelief. I don't like flip-flopping throughout a series, it just shows laziness.

Mass Effect was always unrealistic.

ME followed sceince to a sense, explained everuthing in good detail and tried to stay tyue to physics, then Bioware was bought by EA and ME became lolshooting.

Oh, really? Omni-Gel.

[marshalleck]

I feel dirty for agreeing with Phaedon and Mesina in this thread.

[Someone With Mass]

You know what's also scientifically ridiculous? The way mass effect fields work.

[Lotion Soronarr]

littlezack wrote...

Do you ever just play a game? Does every little thing have to be explained in mind-numbing detail?

Let me ask you a counter-question:

Do you simply gobble up every pirce of s**** the devs/writers throw in front of you, and then ask for seconds?

If you accuse those who complain about being too anal and critical, remeber that they can always acuse you of being too accpeting and non-critical.

[lovgreno]

In fact omni blades could have been developed for years before even ME1 but it's not untill ME3 there is a usable prototype. Weapons often takes a long time to develop.

[Mr.House]

littlezack wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

littlezack wrote...

Dionkey wrote...

littlezack wrote...
Do you ever just play a game? Does every little thing have to be explained in mind-numbing detail?

If a game is founded upon science then I expect it to try to stay true to a huge majority of the science. If a game outright says that it is unrealistic from the beginning, I will suspend my disbelief. I don't like flip-flopping throughout a series, it just shows laziness.

Mass Effect was always unrealistic.

ME followed sceince to a sense, explained everuthing in good detail and tried to stay tyue to physics, then Bioware was bought by EA and ME became lolshooting.

Oh, really? Omni-Gel.

It's explained in great detail and it's Sci-Fi, healing items are common in Sci-Fi.

[littlezack]

Mr.House wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

2 year gap between ME and ME2
6 month gap between ME2 and ME3

The blades are not even mentinoed in the horrible books.

Let's just ignore you missed my point again, but what makes you think Omni-blade can't be created in 6 months gap?

If they where created in that gap then why are they not mentinoed in the last book we had that takes place a good chunk after ME2 and before ME3?

There are probably a lot of things not mentioned in the book that happened in the six month period. I haven't read it, but I doubt it details EVERYTHING that was going on at the time.

[Il Divo]

Mr.House wrote...

ME followed sceince to a sense, explained everuthing in good detail and tried to stay tyue to physics, then Bioware was bought by EA and ME became lolshooting.

[marshalleck]

Mr.House wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

2 year gap between ME and ME2
6 month gap between ME2 and ME3

The blades are not even mentinoed in the horrible books.

Let's just ignore you missed my point again, but what makes you think Omni-blade can't be created in 6 months gap?

If they where created in that gap then why are they not mentinoed in the last book we had that takes place a good chunk after ME2 and before ME3?

Lets go ahead and list everything else not specifically mentioned in the last book, which we can declare should not be allowed in the games.

[Phaedon]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
Let me ask you a counter-question:

Do you simply gobble up every pirce of s**** the devs/writers throw in front of you, and then ask for seconds?

If you accuse those who complain about being too anal and critical, remeber that they can always acuse you of being too accpeting and non-critical.

Obviously lack of critical thought is not the defending position's problem here.


Let's throw another Button awesome pun instead.

Modifié par Phaedon, 18 août 2011 - 08:22 .

[Texhnolyze101]

Zjarcal wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

They call omi blades awesome, thus it's an awesome blade, goes well with the awesome button. I wonder what they will do next, awesome burger? awesome boobs? awesome pistol?

I already told you, awesome dildos.

those already exist

[Someone With Mass]

littlezack wrote...

Oh, really? Omni-Gel.

Crashed Russian satellites containing high tech armor and omni-tools.

Or omni-tools in general.

[Illiandri]

http://www.scienceda...70506160623.htm

No baby, solid light objects are in the realm of theoretical physics. The same theoretical physics field that in 30 years gave us the devastating nuclear weapon, is developing viable fusion reactors and allowed us to enjoy the current level of life. By the 23rd century who knows?



Solid light objects are not lore breaking.......... they could very well be reality and lets not forget reality>lore.

[sp0ck 06]

Mr.House wrote...

ME followed sceince to a sense, explained everuthing in good detail and tried to stay tyue to physics, then Bioware was bought by EA and ME became lolshooting.

Riiiiight.

/facepalm

[Ghost Lightning]

OH I KNOW! Vanguards can get a biotic ball peen hammer!

[marshalleck]

Also, canonically speaking, Bioware's position seems to be anything presented in the games trumps whatever is presented in the books or comics when there is a conflict.

Modifié par marshalleck, 18 août 2011 - 08:24 .

[Il Divo]

Someone With Mass wrote...

littlezack wrote...

Oh, really? Omni-Gel.

Crashed Russian satellites containing high tech armor and omni-tools.

Or omni-tools in general.

Alien biology was an ass pull as well.

[Dionkey]

Phaedon wrote...
Does the flashlight from ME1 and the wireless connection also come from omni-tool technolodgy? Does the medi-gel that you use in unity come from omni-tool technolodgy? What is omni-tool technolodgy anyway? If you think that it is exclusively haptic interface projectors, then the first game alone renders you incorrect.

I agree, the flashlight in ME1 made no sense, and I think it is just as bad as everything else I mentioned here. The medi-gel is administered through dispensers in the suit, the omni-tool just has a function to dispense it. The first game pretty much stays true to haptic interface projectors all the way through, I don't see the issue.

Phaedon wrote...
What projectiles? Considering that drones are visible even when you are in cover, they are not projected by the omni-tool, and are therefore the projections of mobile components launched by the omni-tool. Those happen to be solid.

And you can make solid enemies to hurt your enemies if you want them to. What projectiles are you talking about anyway? 

I should have worded that better, because they are really bursts of energy. What is this material that makes these drones? I don't see any, so it must be on a molecular level. Even then, why would you make a drone like that? The combat drones from the first game made much more sense. Where do these drones get power to operate and fire bursts of energy?

Phaedon wrote...

Magic, right.
No, it is explained in the same way that geth barriers are explained. Those require mobile projectors, and barrier generators at the same time. The same thing happens in ME2, just imagine them being stationary parts installed on the armour.

Except the fact that the armor appears one your head even when you are not wearing a helmet. Unless Shepard got some nice projectors installed in his head after being rebuilt. This is something else ME1 missed, the fact that omni-tools appear on bare skin. I still believe that ME1 tried to avoid using Omni-tool technology to such insane lengths.

Phaedon wrote...
I should stop reading there, but anyway.

Barriers act as solid objects. End of story. If they can defend you, they can also hurt you.

What's your point? The barriers/armor in ME2 don't make sense anyway, so how would they make sense to be projectiles/bursts of energy?

Phaedon wrote...
Or a monomelar blade according to a ME writer.

Again, illogical nonsense that would be so un-managable that it isn't practical. All this stuff is cool looking, but the military would never develop this. I understand some things in ME push the boundaries, but this is just so unnecessary and impractical that it doesn't make sense.

Modifié par Dionkey, 18 août 2011 - 08:27 .