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Omi blades are in ME3 because they are awesome.


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 The Omni-Blade is really one of the more sensible things in the game since constructing something like a blade should be fairly easy for the Omni-Tool. Especially considering that Omni-Tools are capable of making items as complicated as a Flashlight, I'd say a simple blade is very doable.

I was a bit against the Omni-Blade at first as well namely since I didn't ever expect "knives" or melee attacks to become prevalent in Mass Effect, but when you consider how gimped melee attacks are in ME2 I think most would see it as a good thing. Also I believe only Soldiers get the Omni-Blade anyways.

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Nashiktal wrote...

In fact a war was won in the me universe using a parachute that took advantage of that weakness.


Which war was that?

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Isn't the omni blade somewhat of a retcon?

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Isn't the omni blade somewhat of a retcon?


retconning what exactly?

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crimzontearz wrote...

tactics and squad render melee useless??

then why the hell are marines trained in hand to hand combat?????


you mean other than the fact that they dont have laser rifles and energy shields, and advanced powerarmor that covers them from head to toe?  or neosporin that instantly heals all of their wounds and brings them back to life?
or the fact that a video game does not work the same as real life?

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crimzontearz wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Isn't the omni blade somewhat of a retcon?


retconning what exactly?


Isn't the omni blade the omni tool?

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Isn't the omni blade somewhat of a retcon?


retconning what exactly?


Isn't the omni blade the omni tool?


its a new function of the omni tool

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rikimeru420 wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Isn't the omni blade somewhat of a retcon?


retconning what exactly?


Isn't the omni blade the omni tool?


its a new function of the omni tool


And the omni too is a hologram (and holograms cannot be blades) right? And that's confirmed by the Codex? So that's established fact, right?

And since a retcon is a rewrite of established fact....... to me that seems like a retcon.

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It's not retcon...

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
And the omni too is a hologram (and holograms cannot be blades) right? And that's confirmed by the Codex? So that's established fact, right?

And since a retcon is a rewrite of established fact....... to me that seems like a retcon.

But their are several similar things in the Mass Effect universe that are similar to the omni blade

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rikimeru420 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

tactics and squad render melee useless??

then why the hell are marines trained in hand to hand combat?????


you mean other than the fact that they dont have laser rifles and energy shields, and advanced powerarmor that covers them from head to toe?  or neosporin that instantly heals all of their wounds and brings them back to life?
or the fact that a video game does not work the same as real life?


right

because 

Number 1: ME does not have laser weapons, even the Collector energy beam is not a laser. They fire actual projectiles.

Number 2: Kinetic barriers and Armor FAIL. Especially the former since they can be overloaded with an omnitool. Bullets go through armor. For that matter Normal guns in the real world work the same way really, conceptually speaking........see a target, aim (hopefully not at body armor), shoot, kill. But more to the point according to lore Shields do NOT protect against  melee attacks so guess what? if you could charge an enemy would it not be much more practicaly and lethal to just shank them with a technologically advanced  melee weapon? So why would Marines NOT be trained in hand to hand? Oh and.....Ashley says hello, you should talk to her more often in ME1

Number 3: Medigel needs to be applied....but wait how exactly does this become relevant to Melee?

Number 4: "it's just a game" is a very poor excuse. If people want the medium to grow they need to stop excusing poor execution or anything else for that matter with "it's just a game so who cares?". Omni tools and hand to hand combat makes sense in the ME universe...so does the Omni-Blade

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Someone With Mass wrote...

It's not retcon...


Care to prove it's not?

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

rikimeru420 wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Isn't the omni blade somewhat of a retcon?


retconning what exactly?


Isn't the omni blade the omni tool?


its a new function of the omni tool


And the omni too is a hologram (and holograms cannot be blades) right? And that's confirmed by the Codex? So that's established fact, right?

And since a retcon is a rewrite of established fact....... to me that seems like a retcon.


uh....pinnacle station? hello?

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xXljoshlXx wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
And the omni too is a hologram (and holograms cannot be blades) right? And that's confirmed by the Codex? So that's established fact, right?

And since a retcon is a rewrite of established fact....... to me that seems like a retcon.

But their are several similar things in the Mass Effect universe that are similar to the omni blade


Like what?

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

xXljoshlXx wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
And the omni too is a hologram (and holograms cannot be blades) right? And that's confirmed by the Codex? So that's established fact, right?

And since a retcon is a rewrite of established fact....... to me that seems like a retcon.

But their are several similar things in the Mass Effect universe that are similar to the omni blade


Like what?


play pinnacle station

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Care to prove it's not?


Because it's not going against the established facts about the omni-tool.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Care to prove it's not?


Because it's not going against the established facts about the omni-tool.


How is it not?

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crimzontearz wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

xXljoshlXx wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
And the omni too is a hologram (and holograms cannot be blades) right? And that's confirmed by the Codex? So that's established fact, right?

And since a retcon is a rewrite of established fact....... to me that seems like a retcon.

But their are several similar things in the Mass Effect universe that are similar to the omni blade


Like what?


play pinnacle station


I can't. What's in it?

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

How is it not?


The omni-tool is able to construct things that are far more complicated than the omni-blade, like drones with its fabricator.

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

xXljoshlXx wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
And the omni too is a hologram (and holograms cannot be blades) right? And that's confirmed by the Codex? So that's established fact, right?

And since a retcon is a rewrite of established fact....... to me that seems like a retcon.

But their are several similar things in the Mass Effect universe that are similar to the omni blade


Like what?


play pinnacle station


I can't. What's in it?


A training station. Pinnacle station uses Holograms for training. Yes, Holograms + mass effect fields, if the safety systems are off, CAN kill you. A kinetic slug (that is what they call the holographic projectiles) will hurt you and possibly kill you. There are codex entries about it too. The omniblade is a hologram, thus, it COULD be used as a weapon 

Modifié par crimzontearz, 19 août 2011 - 01:21 .


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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
And the omni too is a hologram (and holograms cannot be blades) right? And that's confirmed by the Codex? So that's established fact, right?

And since a retcon is a rewrite of established fact....... to me that seems like a retcon.


*SIGH*

For the >9000-th time, omni-tools are not just holograms. They have physical components. Re-read your Codex.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

How is it not?


The omni-tool is able to construct things that are far more complicated than the omni-blade, like drones with its fabricator.


But it's just a hologram.

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http://masseffect.wi...innacle_Station

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crimzontearz wrote...

http://masseffect.wi...innacle_Station



"Holographic projectors are used to create visual representations of opponents and obstacles. Kinetic barriers
are then cast to prevent participants from passing through the
obstacles and terrain. Kinetic barriers are also used to simulate weapon damage and shockwaves."

So the holograms are just visual representations, not physical.

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http://masseffect.wi...wiki/Omni-tools

The hologram is just the UI.