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A new "Why is Cerberus an enemy" theory: Because TIM attacks Liara


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Jonathan Shepard

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Omg. It makes sense. I can actually see this one filling in the gaps and making sense.

I love you, OP.

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*Light bulb goes on*

What if...

TIMs encounter (P.S!!!) with the artifact in that one comic led to his indoctrination?

Now, we know that TIM was slightly affected by the artifact. You can see it in his eyes. We also know of his tests on a certain person. Perhaps he was studying this person to try and fix his own indoctrination? Perhaps that is also why TIM sends Shepard to the Collector base--He is not in control. And also, perhaps, why he is now working for the Reapers(look at conf. features list, its there).

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I was thinking something kind of similar except I thought maybe Miranda took over for Liara as the shadowbroker since she's not a permanent squad-mate and they said she would have a major role in the game. I don't know I can't wait either way.

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has anyone ever considered that TIM is not after shepard. but he just keeps bumping into them because they have similar goals. and the illusive man wants stuff done his way?

Modifié par havoc373, 19 août 2011 - 01:31 .


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So all I have to do for TIM and I to be BFF again is give him Liara? Hell, all he had to do was ask.

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TheOptimist wrote...

While I agree that this would explain hostility between TIM and Shepard, it doesn't really explain why TIM's expending the extensive amount of resources we've seen to kill Shepard.


Much of the limited video we've seen so far has Cerberus expending those resources, for instance, to kill a Krogan Princess. Shep's fighting them. (havoc373 beat me to this point as I was typing.)

The Reapers are by far the bigger threat, and TIM could pretty much
count on the fact that Shepard's gonna deal with the Reapers before he
deals with TIM.  For that matter, one would think that would be TIM's
approach too, considering that if the Reapers win, personal grudges
aren't going to matter.


True, but they clearly have opposing views of how the war should be fought, and clearly its something the Shep can't agree with either paragon or renegade.

Irrespective of that, if TIM ****s with Liara, he's a dead dog in my Shepard's eyes.Image IPB


LIkewise. Don't mess with my Shep's Azure.

Jonathan Shepard wrote...

Omg. It makes sense. I can actually see this one filling in the gaps and making sense.

I love you, OP.



havoc373 had the idea. I just posted it, but thanks.

Modifié par Thompson family, 19 août 2011 - 01:39 .


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Stupid idea.

If TIM wants Liara he can have her.

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marshalleck wrote...

So all I have to do for TIM and I to be BFF again is give him Liara? Hell, all he had to do was ask.


Indeed, my Shepard would gladly hogtie her and drop her off to TIM asap.

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I was an ass to Liara and was forced to befriend her in LOTSB against what my Shepard would do, so he can have her.

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GodWood wrote...

Stupid idea.

If TIM wants Liara he can have her.


And similar replies:

All right.

TIM wants the Shadow Broker network. Even if you don't care about Liara, you want to let him have that?

-- and the Collector Base.

Modifié par Thompson family, 19 août 2011 - 01:56 .


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Seboist wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

So all I have to do for TIM and I to be BFF again is give him Liara? Hell, all he had to do was ask.


Indeed, my Shepard would gladly hogtie her and drop her off to TIM asap.

Sebo,you would gladly hogtie yourself and offer up your body to TIM...

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Dave of Canada wrote...

I was an ass to Liara and was forced to befriend her in LOTSB against what my Shepard would do, so he can have her.


I hated how LOTSB forced my Shepard to be BFF with her and not Tali or Miranda who she considers her real best friends.

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havo373 wrote...
has anyone ever considered that TIM is not after shepard. but he just keeps bumping into them because they have similar goals. and the illusive man wants stuff done his way?


Thompson family wrote...
Much of the limited video we've seen so far has Cerberus expending those resources, for instance, to kill a Krogan Princess. Shep's fighting them. (havoc373 beat me to this point as I was typing.)


Actually, that's true, now I think about it. I've just been assuming that Cerberus is attacking Shepard when in fact Shepard may just be continually getting in their way. Again.  Mind you, I'm not sure that's all there is to it, but this theory WOULD fit all the info we've got. 

Man, I can't wait for all the whining about 'I should have been able to agree with TIM etc.' if this theory turns out to hold water.Image IPB

EDIT: And as I look above this post, it's ALREADY started.  Good to know the BSN is reliable in some ways.Image IPB

Modifié par TheOptimist, 19 août 2011 - 01:55 .


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Seboist wrote...

marshalleck wrote...
So all I have to do for TIM and I to be BFF again is give him Liara? Hell, all he had to do was ask.

Indeed, my Shepard would gladly hogtie her and drop her off to TIM asap.

Hell I'd field dress her and drop her off to TIM asap.

/taking it too far

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Thompson family wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Stupid idea.

If TIM wants Liara he can have her.


All right.

TIM wants the Shadow Broker network. Even if you don't care about Liara, you want to let him have that?

-- and the Collector Base.


Absolutely. He's already proven that he's adept at managing information. Moreso than Liara.

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Seboist wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

So all I have to do for TIM and I to be BFF again is give him Liara? Hell, all he had to do was ask.


Indeed, my Shepard would gladly hogtie her and drop her off to TIM asap.

Sebo,you would gladly hogtie yourself and offer up your body to TIM...


You're confusing me for my femshep, I don't have the hots for him or am into kinky S&M acts like she is.

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marshalleck wrote...

Thompson family wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Stupid idea.

If TIM wants Liara he can have her.


All right.

TIM wants the Shadow Broker network. Even if you don't care about Liara, you want to let him have that?

-- and the Collector Base.


Absolutely. He's already proven that he's adept at managing information. Moreso than Liara.


But someone who wants domination?

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Good grief. All this loyalty to someone who want to kill Shep.

Whatever Shep does, TIM has at least a powerful, indoctrinated army that appears out of nowhere and wants to kill you.

And you all want to hand him the best intelligence network in the known galaxy.

Why doesn't Shep just kill him/hershelf and save TIM the trouble while we're at it?

Modifié par Thompson family, 19 août 2011 - 01:57 .


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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Thompson family wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Stupid idea.

If TIM wants Liara he can have her.


All right.

TIM wants the Shadow Broker network. Even if you don't care about Liara, you want to let him have that?

-- and the Collector Base.


Absolutely. He's already proven that he's adept at managing information. Moreso than Liara.


But someone who wants domination?

Domination? Heh. 

Every species wants dominance. Might as well be my own. 

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Domination? Heh. 

Every species wants dominance. Might as well be my own. 


Because its better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as an indoctrinated sheep.

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Thompson family wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Stupid idea.

If TIM wants Liara he can have her.

All right.
TIM wants the Shadow Broker network. Even if you don't care about Liara, you want to let him have that?

-- and the Collector Base.

Sure.

The Reapers are wiping out the galaxy, I don't want to spend 40% of my time killing hundreds of Cerberus soldiers when I could be using that time to figure out ways to stop the Reapers and I don't want to be killing these soldiers that could be better used against the Reapers.

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Thompson family wrote...

Good grief. All this loyalty to someone who want to kill Shep.

Whatever Shep does, TIM has at least a powerful, indoctrinated army that appears out of nowhere and wants to kill you.

And you all want to hand him the best intelligence network in the known galaxy.

Why doesn't Shep just kill him/hershelf and save TIM the trouble while we're at it?

I have a feeling there are far too many here who would love to advocate just that for the sake of being contrarian.Image IPB

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[quote]marshalleck wrote...


But someone who wants domination?

[/quote] Domination? Heh. 

Every species wants dominance. Might as well be my own. 

[/quote]

That's some interesting thinking you got there. Wouldn't it be better if we went for a more equal representation style government, like the Council (not that it's perfect)?

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I can't wait to see why Cerberus is after you,hell I would like a clear-cut answer to if TIM himself is after you,I still don't think he is though.

All this speculation cause they said 40%

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

That's some interesting thinking you got there. Wouldn't it be better if we went for a more equal representation style government, like the Council (not that it's perfect)?

With all the attendant bureaucracy and inaction? No, not really. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 19 août 2011 - 02:05 .