That makes it right?marshalleck wrote...
Domination? Heh.
Every species wants dominance. Might as well be my own.
A new "Why is Cerberus an enemy" theory: Because TIM attacks Liara
#51
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:07
#52
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:08
Thompson family wrote...
Good grief. All this loyalty to someone who want to kill Shep.
Whatever Shep does, TIM has at least a powerful, indoctrinated army that appears out of nowhere and wants to kill you.
And you all want to hand him the best intelligence network in the known galaxy.
Why doesn't Shep just kill him/hershelf and save TIM the trouble while we're at it?
I live for TIM and I die for TIM. The difference is trivial.
#53
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:08
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
marshalleck wrote...
With all the attendant bureaucracy and inaction? No, not really.The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
That's some interesting thinking you got there. Wouldn't it be better if we went for a more equal representation style government, like the Council (not that it's perfect)?
If you ask me, that sounds better than "LOLZ HUMANZ EEZ ON TOP BECAUSE WE IS SPESHAL!"
All that would do is cause humans nothing but trouble.
#54
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:08
GodWood wrote...
The Reapers are wiping out the galaxy, I don't want to spend 40% of my time killing hundreds of Cerberus soldiers when I could be using that time to figure out ways to stop the Reapers and I don't want to be killing these soldiers that could be better used against the Reapers.
There is no indication whatsoever that Shep will have any choice in the matter.
So if Shep handed the SB base over, he/she'd just be more ****ed.
#55
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:10
TheOptimist wrote...
I have a feeling there are far too many here who would love to advocate just that for the sake of being contrarian.
Quite true.
#56
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:10
Yes.xXljoshlXx wrote...
That makes it right?marshalleck wrote...
Domination? Heh.
Every species wants dominance. Might as well be my own.
#57
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:12
Sounds like something a Zealot would saySeboist wrote...
I live for TIM and I die for TIM. The difference is trivial.
#58
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:12
I don't know why paragons keep supporting the alien council.The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
That's some interesting thinking you got there. Wouldn't it be better if we went for a more equal representation style government, like the Council (not that it's perfect)?
It's just as oppressive and you know it.
So you might as well:
Kill 'em off and put humans in power (the system is already ****ed up might as well be the top dog)
OR
Advocate for some kind of Revolución and overthrow the incompetent oppressive bastards.
#59
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:12
Kaiser Shepard wrote...
Yes.xXljoshlXx wrote...
That makes it right?marshalleck wrote...
Domination? Heh.
Every species wants dominance. Might as well be my own.
Indeed.
#60
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:14
GodWood wrote...
I don't know why paragons keep supporting the alien council.The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
That's some interesting thinking you got there. Wouldn't it be better if we went for a more equal representation style government, like the Council (not that it's perfect)?
It's just as oppressive and you know it.
So you might as well:
Kill 'em off and put humans in power (the system is already ****ed up might as well be the top dog)
OR
Advocate for some kind of Revolución and overthrow the incompetent oppressive bastards.
Much like with the squadmates, aliens are held to a lower standard than humans. Either that or they don't fully grasp what the racial caste good ol' boys club that the council and their space gestapo force the Spectres truly are.
#61
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:15
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
GodWood wrote...
I don't know why paragons keep supporting the alien council.The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
That's some interesting thinking you got there. Wouldn't it be better if we went for a more equal representation style government, like the Council (not that it's perfect)?
It's just as oppressive and you know it.
So you might as well:
Kill 'em off and put humans in power (the system is already ****ed up might as well be the top dog)
OR
Advocate for some kind of Revolución and overthrow the incompetent oppressive bastards.
That's kind of where I'm at, just maybe not a revolution.
#62
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:15
#63
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:16
GodWood wrote...
I don't know why paragons keep supporting the alien council.The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
That's some interesting thinking you got there. Wouldn't it be better if we went for a more equal representation style government, like the Council (not that it's perfect)?
It's just as oppressive and you know it.
So you might as well:
Kill 'em off and put humans in power (the system is already ****ed up might as well be the top dog)
OR
Advocate for some kind of Revolución and overthrow the incompetent oppressive bastards.
OR
Kill off the humans and end this BS before it even started.
#64
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:16
Choice in what?Thompson family wrote...
There is no indication whatsoever that Shep will have any choice in the matter.GodWood wrote...
The Reapers are wiping out the galaxy, I don't want to spend 40% of my time killing hundreds of Cerberus soldiers when I could be using that time to figure out ways to stop the Reapers and I don't want to be killing these soldiers that could be better used against the Reapers.
Why?So if Shep handed the SB base over, he/she'd just be more ****ed.
#65
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:19
huh I was wrong all this time i need to change all my viewsKaiser Shepard wrote...
Yes.xXljoshlXx wrote...
That makes it right?marshalleck wrote...
Domination? Heh.
Every species wants dominance. Might as well be my own.
#66
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:21
This is a Cerberus loyalty issue.
In light of what we know -- that Cerberus will oppose Shep's plans whatever happens -- then the only way for Cerberus devotees to play ME3 will be to get Shep killed early and not resume.
Modifié par Thompson family, 19 août 2011 - 02:25 .
#67
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:21
I want Asari dominance....dominance of the space between my boots *insert evile laugh*xXljoshlXx wrote...
huh I was wrong all this time i need to change all my viewsKaiser Shepard wrote...
Yes.xXljoshlXx wrote...
That makes it right?marshalleck wrote...
Domination? Heh.
Every species wants dominance. Might as well be my own.
In all honesty if we ever join an intergalactic community humanity will be as close to the top as we can get without going to war,by hook or by crook as they say.
#68
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:23
GodWood wrote...
Choice in what?Thompson family wrote...
There is no indication whatsoever that Shep will have any choice in the matter.GodWood wrote...
The Reapers are wiping out the galaxy, I don't want to spend 40% of my time killing hundreds of Cerberus soldiers when I could be using that time to figure out ways to stop the Reapers and I don't want to be killing these soldiers that could be better used against the Reapers.Why?So if Shep handed the SB base over, he/she'd just be more ****ed.
Well, I hope this isn't a spoiler, and I assume it's not because you clearly know about 40 percent of your time will be spent fighting Cerberus, but:
Shep will spend 40 percent of his/her time fighting Cerberus if you play the game to completion whatever you do.
#69
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:23
I can get down with thisGodWood wrote...
Advocate for some kind of Revolución and overthrow the incompetent oppressive bastards.
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
I want Asari dominance....dominance of the space between my boots *insert evile laugh*
Or this preferably this one....
#70
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:25
#71
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:28
Well that's good but if not through revolution how are you going to do it?The Big Bad Wolf wrote...
That's kind of where I'm at, just maybe not a revolution.GodWood wrote...
Advocate for some kind of Revolución and overthrow the incompetent oppressive bastards.
These tyrants aren't going to give away their power willy nilly.
Yeah that's a much better plan.Someone With Mass wrote...
OR
Kill off the humans and end this BS before it even started.
Have the volus, elcor, hanar and other 'lesser' species oppressed by the Council and not let them have a say in galaxy politics.
Have the Council continue to exploit the 'lesser' races for their own interests
Have species like the quarians still subject to extreme racism and be prevented from settling a planet because of the actions their ancestors did 300 years ago.
AND murder billions of innocent people.
Great idea.
#72
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:30
Thompson family wrote...
This is not a Paragon/Renegade issue or a Council/Humanity issue.
This is a Cerberus loyalty issue.
In light of what we know -- that Cerberus will oppose Shep's plans whatever happens -- then the only way for Cerberus devotees to play ME3 will be to get Shep killed early and not resume.
As far as I'm concerned the real Cerberus and TIM are trapped in another dimension and these are just posers conjured up by the evil wizard Mac Walters.
#73
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:30
I know.Thompson family wrote...
Shep will spend 40 percent of his/her time fighting Cerberus if you play the game to completion whatever you do.
That's why I don't want the reason for me fighting them to be something as silly as "they attacked Liara".
#74
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:33
GodWood wrote...
Yeah that's a much better plan.
Have the volus, elcor, hanar and other 'lesser' species oppressed by the Council and not let them have a say in galaxy politics.
Have the Council continue to exploit the 'lesser' races for their own interests
Have species like the quarians still subject to extreme racism and be prevented from settling a planet because of the actions their ancestors did 300 years ago.
AND murder billions of innocent people.
Great idea.
Oh, because the "perfect" humans will make things so much better when they can't even control their own race.
#75
Posté 19 août 2011 - 02:33
GodWood wrote...
I don't know why paragons keep supporting the alien council.
It's just as oppressive and you know it.
Being a perennial Paragon player, I know no such thing. I DO know that they are what will allow me to get the whole galaxy pushing together, rather than trying to tear each other down in the face of a greater threat. The Council and the Citadel have their flaws, but they still represent the best hope for living together and more or less getting along with each other the galaxy has.





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