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[Kimberly Shaw]

I want pretty much everything DAO had except combat SPEED (maybe a tad less frantic but close to that) and the new skill trees and perhaps the friend/rivalry system. Those 3 things you may take from DA2. Everything else go back to the DAO style (with updated 2013 graphics).

[AtreiyaN7]

the_one_54321 wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...
Or how about people stop demanding that the only correct way to proceed is their way and their way alone.

There is only one kind of game that I want from BioWare. Just one. It has nothing to do with it being the right way or the wrong way. It's what I want, and no amount of market jargon justification is going to change that one thing that I want from BioWare.

Yeah, I was quoting IanPolaris and his insistence upon returning to DA:O-land and his insistence that DA2 was a mistake - because it wasn't. I think there were a number of improvements in things like combat (class synergy and speed, in addition to the skill trees). I also liked the friendship/rivalry idea and some of the companion quests. I even liked the story overall, so DA:O-only is not the only way to go forward.

Who knows whether or not they'll actually succeed, but I'd rather see them try something new instead of doing a total 180 just because some people think DA2 was an abomination. Any proof of success/failure will come when the next game is out - I don't put that much stock into marketing, so I'll wait to see what information, etc. comes out during development.

[Rovay]

billy the squid wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

I have come to conclusion the bioware could walk on water, turn water into wine, take five loafs of bread and five fish and 5000. Still some how after all the fan base will find something to be in Outrage about on BSN.

"Give them gold and they'll complain that its heavy."

So nebulous PR is now to be taken as proof of design shifts for future instalments?

Well... This is BSN after all.

Modifié par Rovay, 19 août 2011 - 08:21 .

[csfteeeer]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

I have come to conclusion the bioware could walk on water, turn water into wine, take five loafs of bread and five fish and 5000. Still some how after all the fan base will find something to be in Outrage about on BSN.

"Give them gold and they'll complain that its heavy."

 

Because DA2 is pure Gold.

[Serpieri Nei]

Fool's Gold

[HTTP 404]

without mentioning gameplay from either DA:O and DA2. I would want the pacing of the main story, and consistency of lore from DA:O to meet the grittiness of a story and VO protagonist from DA2.

Also they should keep the uniqueness of Art of Da2 but scale it down a notch or two like the over done armors and the flashy weapons. Mostly I want the story to be more definitive like DA:O's was and not so muddled like DA2's was without taking away the "realness" of DA2.

[Cutlass Jack]

billy the squid wrote...

So nebulous PR is now to be taken as proof of design shifts for future instalments?

Quite the opposite. It should be taken as proof of absolutely nothing. Trying to ferret out the hidden meaning of something that says nothing and being angered by it is kinda silly.

[nitefyre410]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

So nebulous PR is now to be taken as proof of design shifts for future instalments?

Quite the opposite. It should be taken as proof of absolutely nothing. Trying to ferret out the hidden meaning of something that says nothing and being angered by it is kinda silly.

 

^ yeah this right here ...  Cutlass just beat me to the  post   be all    like and such

Modifié par nitefyre410, 19 août 2011 - 08:33 .

[TheConfidenceMan]

They already lost the old fans. Might as well just dumb it all the way down at this point.

[FieryDove]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

"Give them gold and they'll complain that its heavy."

It was gold painted uranium which is going to be...heavy.

No wonder all of us act strange.

Modifié par FieryDove, 19 août 2011 - 08:36 .

[AtreiyaN7]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

So nebulous PR is now to be taken as proof of design shifts for future instalments?

Quite the opposite. It should be taken as proof of absolutely nothing. Trying to ferret out the hidden meaning of something that says nothing and being angered by it is kinda silly.

This. Personally, I don't know why anyone would bother getting worked up about early PR. If they have any sense at all, they'll realize that all this is is just talk for the moment. The only reliable things will be (when the game gets close to release) screenshots, gameplay footage, etc.

[Cutlass Jack]

FieryDove wrote...

It was gold painted uranium which is going to be...heavy.

No wonder all of us act strange.

Lyrium, but same end result.

[FieryDove]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Lyrium, but same end result.

Red kind or blue?

[Captain_Obvious]

IanPolaris wrote...

My level of dread just rose even further. If you try to please everyone, you please no one almost invariably.

Just admit that DA2 was a mistake (to yourselves if not us) and go back to the general DAO model and improve on that.

-Polaris

Negative, I have absolutely no desire for a return to the "general DA:O model."  If I want to play DA:O, I play DA:O. 

[Madame Rose Crimsynn]

HTTP 404 wrote...

without mentioning gameplay from either DA:O and DA2. I would want the pacing of the main story, and consistency of lore from DA:O to meet the grittiness of a story and VO protagonist from DA2.

Also they should keep the uniqueness of Art of Da2 but scale it down a notch or two like the over done armors and the flashy weapons. Mostly I want the story to be more definitive like DA:O's was and not so muddled like DA2's was without taking away the "realness" of DA2.

I concur with you, with a suggestion.

Dialogue: (This sounds so silly, and I blame my much younger cousin) I suggest taking a note out of the book of the Nancy Drew computer games (See? So silly).  Every reply you can have Nancy say is fully written out (like Origins), and miraculously, when you click an option, Nancy says *exactly* what you just told her to. Best of both worlds (and a kid's game beat BioWare to it).

[TMZuk]

Mhm.

While I would not go as far as to say that there was nothing enjoyable about DA2, I would certainly have to say that there was nothing I can think off in DA2, that I prefer over DA:O.

Combat, pace, design, models, companions, protagonist... DA:O for me is the better game by far.

[nitefyre410]

Well anyway I can see where this thread is going, so I'm just going to say   INB4 Lock

and

[billy the squid]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

So nebulous PR is now to be taken as proof of design shifts for future instalments?

Quite the opposite. It should be taken as proof of absolutely nothing. Trying to ferret out the hidden meaning of something that says nothing and being angered by it is kinda silly.

Which is, frankly, why they should simply keep their mouth shut. They are going to get bashed for it unless there is something more compeling as evidence, considering the amount of vitriol that was directed at them upon release of DA2.

Looking at press releases from EA babbling about broader appeal, simply makes any comment of blending the best of both look like a desperate attempt to make minor concessions to shore up their fan base. Best for them to say nothing on how to rectify the situation until they are past the preliminary stage, considering they lost a lot of their IP's equity with DA2.

Modifié par billy the squid, 19 août 2011 - 08:48 .

[xkg]

Captain_Obvious wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

My level of dread just rose even further. If you try to please everyone, you please no one almost invariably.

Just admit that DA2 was a mistake (to yourselves if not us) and go back to the general DAO model and improve on that.

-Polaris

Negative, I have absolutely no desire for a return to the "general DA:O model."  If I want to play DA:O, I play DA:O. 

So what do you suggest ? Completly new game - without any resemblance to DAO/DA2.

Because following your logic - if I want to play DA2, I play DA2.

[Rovay]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Well anyway I can see where this thread is going, so I'm just going to say   INB4 Lock

and

Can I have some?

[happy_daiz]

Sometimes I wish there were 2 separate forums: one for the people who loved DA2, and one for people who didn't.

It would be so nice - everyone could sit on their beach blanket, watching the sunset, snuggling, and singing "Kumbaya".

[Cutlass Jack]

happy_daiz wrote...

Sometimes I wish there were 2 separate forums: one for the people who loved DA2, and one for people who didn't.

It would be so nice - everyone could sit on their beach blanket, watching the sunset, snuggling, and singing "Kumbaya".

Unfortunately it would just fade the forum to black.

[Serpieri Nei]

xkg wrote...

Captain_Obvious wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

My level of dread just rose even further. If you try to please everyone, you please no one almost invariably.

Just admit that DA2 was a mistake (to yourselves if not us) and go back to the general DAO model and improve on that.

-Polaris

Negative, I have absolutely no desire for a return to the "general DA:O model."  If I want to play DA:O, I play DA:O. 

So what do you suggest ? Completly new game - without any resemblance to DAO/DA2.

Because following your logic - if I want to play DA2, I play DA2.

What about those of us that DON'T want to play DA2?

[Rovay]

happy_daiz wrote...

Sometimes I wish there were 2 separate forums: one for the people who loved DA2, and one for people who didn't.

It would be so nice - everyone could sit on their beach blanket, watching the sunset, snuggling, and singing "Kumbaya".

Still however, some people would complain that the opossing forum's "Kumbaya" is too loud.

[happy_daiz]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

happy_daiz wrote...

Sometimes I wish there were 2 separate forums: one for the people who loved DA2, and one for people who didn't.

It would be so nice - everyone could sit on their beach blanket, watching the sunset, snuggling, and singing "Kumbaya".

Unfortunately it would just fade the forum to black.

Ha! Too true. Cheers!

It's beer thirty somewhere, right?