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[Xilizhra]

I've determined that, in my own opinion at least, the huge timeskips, especially between Acts 2 and 3, make more sense if Hawke is a mage. Since 3 is the one that seems sort of senseless itself, I'll focus on that.

Basically, Hawke's already breaking a huge precedent by being an open apostate noble. I think Cullen's word had something to do with this, and Carver might help as well if he becomes a templar. Becoming Champion is a whole different story, one that gives Hawke a lot more clout in how the city is run in the current chaotic climate, and she can't really do a whole lot to push a pro-mage agenda during this time. Sure, the populace is grateful to her saving the city from the qunari, but that could fade extremely quickly if Hawke looks like she's trying to overturn the city's order. She has to play by the rules, at least openly, for quite some time, and probably spend most of those three years working on helping out both the general populace and the nobility, and not being able to do a whole lot for mages. Because if she did, it'd look like favoritism at best and an attempt to create a mini-Imperium at worst.

So, those three years had to have sucked for the Gallows, but by Act 3, they've paid off, as Hawke can openly back Orsino and still be lauded by the nobility for it, and thus has by this time rather cleverly spun away her "curse" as a non-factor in her popularity. Her position in the city is quite good and she could probably do a great deal in regards to getting rid of Meredith and getting the city to remain on her side... that is, if it weren't for Anders' little fireworks show smashing the game board. But it was a good run nonetheless.

[King Minos]

Anders actions will effect Hawke badly if they were a mage, well pretty much every Mage in thedas. Anders may have started a genocide of mages as they are all rioting.

[Xilizhra]

...what did that have to do with anything I posted?

[King Minos]

Hawkes popularity and respect and the possibility of losing it because of Anders.

[Urzon]

King Minos wrote...

Hawkes popularity and respect and the possibility of losing it because of Anders.

That is why Hawke has Varric for PR. All it would take is one sad tale of how Anders betrayed his true love or best friend to free the mages from oppression. Add a couple of sad moral choices, a epic battle sequence in the city, Orsino voltron-ing into an harvester, and Meredith going super saiyan and flying around the Gallows and making statues come to life.

...wait a minute. This sounds awfully familiar...

[Gervaise]

To be honest, first run through, that is what I assumed my mage hawke was doing throughout their time in Kirkwall. Everything was intended to show that a mage could have power and not misuse it, while at the same time trying to help fellow mages as much as possible - except that the constant misuse of blood magic kept working against me. When I told Anders to make himself worthy of the cause, I meant by being an exemplary mage inspite of Justice, not by planting a bomb in the Chantry. So as far as I was concerned, he really messed things up big time and then Orsino just put the black icing on the cake.

[jlb524]

iOnlySignIn wrote...
This theory also works for a pro-Mage Hawke who is not a Mage themselves.

I think so too.  

I'm not sure why it wouldn't.

[Sinaxi]

King Minos wrote...

Anders actions will effect Hawke badly if they were a mage, well pretty much every Mage in thedas. Anders may have started a genocide of mages as they are all rioting.

Oh..yes..Anders has really screwed all the Mages big time. They had it so good before, what with the being imprisoned for centuries and such. Sounds like the life! SIGN ME UP!

[Gervaise]

People seem to forget that originally mages weren't locked up but just seemed to be prevented by law from doing anything but very simple magic. The Circle system came about through mages negotiating a way in which they could experiment with magic without putting the general public in danger. It was particularly a way of ensuring that young inexperienced mages did not put themselves or their family/community at risk. That mages are at general risk of possession seems a given. The set up of the Circle, titles, etc, came from Tevinter and likely the Harrowing as well - something the Magisters would use to test the resiliance of a young mage because they would not want uncontrolled abominations running around the place. Even the Rite of Tranquility may have originally been devised by Tevinter, possibly to punish dissident mages. Certainly both the Qun and the Magisters use some form of brain washing to control people. Under the Circle system more experienced trustworthy mages did get the opportunity to leave the Circle. Everyone in DA2 agrees that Kirkwall Gallows is far worse than any other Circle in Thedas. But the incidence of mage possession and blood magic is also much higher - which came first "the chicken or the egg".

[Xilizhra]

I don't know if I'd call the Kirkwall Circle "far" worse, just more blatant in its abuses. Even Ferelden's had plenty of nasty things going on behind closed doors. But that's not quite the topic...

Though something to say on the actual topic is slipping my mind at the moment.