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[chunkyman]

Ringo12 wrote...

chunkyman wrote...

Warheadz wrote...

Magikarp is awesome.

No, see the point of this thread is unpopular opinions. Everyone knows Magikarp is a boss!  

Well it seems most people are just saying things like "I do't like X" which really isn't an opinion.

True. Besides, Magikarp being a boss really isn't an opinion, it's pretty much fact.

(Six Magikarp pokemon team for life, yo!)

[Calamity Abounds]

The Minority wrote...

Purple is a very manly color.

Its certainly my favorite color.

[SirLysander]

UpiH wrote...

Sundance31us wrote...
Fixed.  

*Bows*


Could it be that simple, people wouldn't want to give credit to a woman and an unknown one at that, but to a man (of authority)?

Could it be that simple, that when faced with statements on an Internet forum where the gender of the commentator is not immediately apparent, that the assumption of sexism as a root cause is appropriate?

[UpiH]

SirLysander wrote...

UpiH wrote...

Sundance31us wrote...
Fixed.  

*Bows*


Could it be that simple, people wouldn't want to give credit to a woman and an unknown one at that, but to a man (of authority)?

Could it be that simple, that when faced with statements on an Internet forum where the gender of the commentator is not immediately apparent, that the assumption of sexism as a root cause is appropriate?

I've seen that happening a lot elsewhere, wasn't exactly talking about a specific poster or particular forum. S.G. Tallentyre as such doesn't tell the gender, could be that Voltaire has more prestige and that's about it..

[SirLysander]

UpiH wrote...

SirLysander wrote...

UpiH wrote...

Sundance31us wrote...
Fixed.  

*Bows*


Could it be that simple, people wouldn't want to give credit to a woman and an unknown one at that, but to a man (of authority)?

Could it be that simple, that when faced with statements on an Internet forum where the gender of the commentator is not immediately apparent, that the assumption of sexism as a root cause is appropriate?

I've seen that happening a lot elsewhere, wasn't exactly talking about a specific poster or particular forum. S.G. Tallentyre as such doesn't tell the gender, could be that Voltaire has more prestige and that's about it..

I'd be inclined to believe you, but for your initially quoting the poster that posted a quote commonly, if incorrectly, attributed "to a man (of authority)" while actually originating from "a woman and an unknown one at that."  Now, if you had not specifically pressed the quote button on BSN, it may have strengthened your arguement, but as you did, the more appropriate term is "undercut."B)

[Sundance31us]

- I'm a female who likes playing male characters. (If I'm going to watch the back of a character for prolonged periods of time I might as well enjoy the view.)  :whistle::innocent:

[Creature 1]

Carfax wrote...

Creature 1 wrote...

You draw this conclusion based upon what education? 

My education is none of your concern. 

Actually when you're going directly against the global scientific consensus, yes it is.  You must be someone truly remarkable to be able to dispense with a century and a half of scientific discovery--who are you?  Where did you study?  What have you published regarding your insights into evolutionary theory?  What's your alternative model? 

There are many aspects of the theory of evolution that have no supportive evidence, such as the idea that multicellular life came from unicelluar organisms,

What in the world are you talking about?  We can observe steps along the path to multicellularity in examining colonial bacteria, Volvox and its relatives going back to unicellular Chlamydomonas, and sponges and unicellular choanflagellates, to give just a few examples.  The evolution of multicellarity (which has occurred many times in various lineages) is fascinating but hardly a mystery. 

or that mutation along side natural selection is the engine by which the incredible diversity and complexity on Earth came to be. 

As far as I can tell this is just a statement that you don't believe it.  We know mutations occur, we know natural selection occurs, we know that these (as well as other factors) contribute to evolution.  What's your objection?  This looks like argument from incredulity to me. 

And while the theory of evolution doesn't directly tackle the origin of Life itself, it presumes that life came from non life......again, something which has absolutely no scientific credibility.

Citation needed.  You are aware of the research that is currently going on in abiotic evolution, which is demonstrating continually the viability of abiotic synthesis of various biomolecules?  Are you familiar with the RNA world, the theory that the original replicon were RNAs, which can act as genetic material and also have catalytic activity?  This is definitely plausible, since we've observed continually self-replicating RNAs in the lab.  We don't have a step by step map of biogenesis and probably never will, but we know enough to know that abiotic evolution and biogenesis *are* credible, and fruitful research areas. 

But talk to an evolutionist, and they will speak as though the idea of life arising from the "primordial soup" is axiomatic.

That's just because they know what they're talking about, and you don't. 

[Volus Warlord]

So yeah, everyone in this thread is gonna get temp ban come Monday. I got loads of errands to run anywho..

[UpiH]

SirLysander wrote...

I'd be inclined to believe you, but for your initially quoting the poster that posted a quote commonly, if incorrectly, attributed "to a man (of authority)" while actually originating from "a woman and an unknown one at that."  Now, if you had not specifically pressed the quote button on BSN, it may have strengthened your arguement, but as you did, the more appropriate term is "undercut."B)

Whatever.

Might have been because of my frustration, I had just used the same quote (with due credit) on page 22 of this thread.

Modifié par UpiH, 21 août 2011 - 07:27 .

[csfteeeer]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

csfteeeer wrote...

is Justin Bieber Sucks unpopular in.... Anywhere?

Nope. The "JB SUX SO HARD HES TOTALY GAY EVEN THO HE HAS GIRLFRAND" bandwagon is pretty prominent everywhere.

Yeah, i thought so, then i guess theres no point in posting (even though i kind of already did....)

Modifié par csfteeeer, 21 août 2011 - 07:27 .

[JoeLaTurkey]

I can't stand The Doors - pretension personified.

[Inquisitor Recon]

I grant you the list of "why everybody hates ReconTeam"

1. I hate this MLP fad on the internet
2. I don't care about these drug addicted actors or actresses dying.
3. I hate most if not all JRPGs
4. Voters in my state (Connecticut) are mentally challenged and apparently enjoy paying taxes on everything.
5. I'm one of those evilll (according to liberals) conservatives.
6. We need to spend more on modernizing our military and procurement, but close many foreign bases.
7. Lada Gaga is a skanky Madonna rerun.
8. I can't stand hardcore fem****s feminists.
9. Political correctness is a lie.
10. I kinda miss the Cold War, I think it united us.
11. Most Western Europeans are arrogant when it comes to their views on America.
12. The Call of Duty series was good until MW2.
13. I hate atheism, it's a terrible philosophy.
14. Family Guy sucked after the frist few seasons.
15. East/West Coast hipsters that insult middle Amercia are hypocrites.
16. Most people these days would cut your throat if it helped them get ahead.
17. These anti-nuke protester types are mentally challenged.
18. Modern music sucks.
19. Western game developers are on the wrong track and continue to dumb everything down.
20. Sometimes trolls are right.
21. These internet "hacktivists" are a bunch of spoiled children who deserve a year long stay in prision.
22. True evil does exist.
23. The worst places of the internet show humanity's true nature.
24. South Korea's obession with Starcraft made Starcraft 2 worse.
25. "Pro" gaming is a sham.
26. Most conspiracy theories are bull****.
27. But that said there may be more to Kennedy's death than meets the eye, but nothing too crazy.
28. Our foolishness will be the cause of our own downfall, not the Chinese or anybody else.
29. Today's ACLU is a bunch of creeps.
30. There are tons of completely worthless courses and degrees offered in College these days, and people actually take them.
31. Homosexuality is immoral and the whole "gay pride" thing is disgusting.
32. I kinda miss the cheezy live action cutscenes from games in the '90s.
33. Something is in Hollywood's water to turn so many actors into drooling insane political hacks.
33. Naz! Germany and Stalin's Soviet Union were equally evil.
34. Humanity's doomed.
35. Our justice system is broke.
36. The Naz!'s got one thing right, their very stylish uniforms.
37. Today's sports, music, and TV stars get way more "worship" than they should.
38. Romances have become a bad thing in Bioware games thanks to the fanboys.
39. Bioware needs to do something like Baldur's Gate again, DA:O was kinda close but then they had to "modernize" it with DA2.
40. The internet is dumbing us all down.
41. Law Enforcement doesn't get the respect it deserves.
42. TF2 is a damn hat simulator that Valve wastes time on instead of giving me HL3/Episode 3.
43. Bioware needs to stop pandering to disturbed romance obsessed fanboys/fangirls. They should also decide things like the new FemShep's hair color themselves instead of community votes and revotes that end poorly.
44. Society makes up too many excuses for criminals, etc. We refuse to accept that there are just some bad people out there.
45. I tried to like Borderlands, I really did, but I just couldn't get myself to.

Modifié par ReconTeam, 21 août 2011 - 07:51 .

[SirLysander]

UpiH wrote...

SirLysander wrote...

I'd be inclined to believe you, but for your initially quoting the poster that posted a quote commonly, if incorrectly, attributed "to a man (of authority)" while actually originating from "a woman and an unknown one at that."  Now, if you had not specifically pressed the quote button on BSN, it may have strengthened your arguement, but as you did, the more appropriate term is "undercut."B)

Whatever.

Might have been because of my frustration, I had just used the same quote (with due credit) on page 22 of this thread.

Uh huh.  Still, the removal of a mis-attributed quote does not need to be met with accusations of sexism as not everyone reads every page of a forum thread, and not everyone wants to be a "me-too," however inadvertant.  If you jump to conclusions, the conditon of the landing site can be uncertain.  Enjoy.

[chunkyman]

Volus Warlord wrote...

So yeah, everyone in this thread is gonna get temp ban come Monday. I got loads of errands to run anywho..

75-90% of the people who regularly use the off-topic forum have posted here, so a mass temp ban would leave this place deserted. It would certainly make Stanley's mod duties easier if he banned us all though!

[Carfax]

Creature 1 wrote...

Actually when you're going directly against the global scientific consensus, yes it is.  You must be someone truly remarkable to be able to dispense with a century and a half of scientific discovery--who are you?  Where did you study?  What have you published regarding your insights into evolutionary theory?  What's your alternative model?

LOL, I don't need to be remarkable to know nonsense when I see it.  Evolution may be widely accepted (much like many other Scientific theories over the years that were eventually overturned), but just because it is, doesn't mean it is factual or proven.

As for my alternative model, I am a proponent of intelligent design.  I think Life was obviously designed by an Intelligent process.  What the nature of this Intelligence is, is anyone's guess, but it must be something of unlimited intelligence and power.

Most people would refer to this Intelligence as God, or the Creator.

What in the world are you talking about?  We can observe steps along the path to multicellularity in examining colonial bacteria, Volvox and its relatives going back to unicellular Chlamydomonas, and sponges and unicellular choanflagellates, to give just a few examples.  The evolution of multicellarity (which has occurred many times in various lineages) is fascinating but hardly a mystery. 

 
So you're telling me (or inferring) that Science has directly observed unicellular life evolving into multicelluar life?

Any link?

Also, can you show me the step by step process by which this incredible event occurred?  Science is about understanding things in as much detail as possible, so simply telling me that fungi "somehow" derived from bacteria is more likely to make me guffaw than anything else.

As far as I can tell this is just a statement that you don't believe it.  We know mutations occur, we know natural selection occurs, we know that these (as well as other factors) contribute to evolution.  What's your objection?  This looks like argument from incredulity to me. 

Mutations occur, and natural selection occur undoubtedly.  However, thats neither the question nor the answer.

The question is whether both mutation along side natural selection can explain the enormous bio-diversity that presently exists on planet Earth.

Also, can mutation and natural selection (both unintelligent processes and mutation can also destroy and degrade information) create living systems of unimagineable complexity?

Has any Scientist ever observed mutation and natural selection fundamentally changing the genetic code of a living creature to become something else entirely?

Citation needed.  You are aware of the research that is currently going on in abiotic evolution, which is demonstrating continually the viability of abiotic synthesis of various biomolecules?  Are you familiar with the RNA world, the theory that the original replicon were RNAs, which can act as genetic material and also have catalytic activity?  This is definitely plausible, since we've observed continually self-replicating RNAs in the lab.  We don't have a step by step map of biogenesis and probably never will, but we know enough to know that abiotic evolution and biogenesis *are* credible, and fruitful research areas. 

LOL.  You truly are a believer aren't you?  Research in abiogenesis has been ongoing for how many decades now, and if anything, they are even further from providing an answer than ever before.

With recent advances in molecular biology which for the first time show how incredibly complex life is, Scientists are truly starting to become aware of the enormous difficulties involved with attempting to explain how contemporary life came to be, let alone how it originated.

Living creatures are just as much information as they are matter and energy, yet has Science shown how information can occur naturally in nature without the presence of intelligence?  How did information become associated with life forms?

I challenge you to show me one research paper or link (preferably peer reviewed) that provides a reasonable explanation of how life developed......with empirical evidence to back up these assertions.

I don't want to read a bunch of garble/opinions about how life MAY have originated.  I want to see actual experiments, backed up with models etc..

Because from everything I've read, the probability of life arising from non life is practically impossible.

[KenKenpachi]

chunkyman wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

So yeah, everyone in this thread is gonna get temp ban come Monday. I got loads of errands to run anywho..

75-90% of the people who regularly use the off-topic forum have posted here, so a mass temp ban would leave this place deserted. It would certainly make Stanley's mod duties easier if he banned us all though!

Pft I haven't. So yes I'm a inmate and not a convict, I do the guards work for them, bring shame to game.

Though technically they could just close the off topic section, what we had to do on another furom I was a mod on.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 21 août 2011 - 07:58 .

[Sundance31us]

[Russalka]

This thread is not fun anymore.

[UpiH]

SirLysander wrote...

Uh huh.  Still, the removal of a mis-attributed quote does not need to be met with accusations of sexism as not everyone reads every page of a forum thread, and not everyone wants to be a "me-too," however inadvertant.  If you jump to conclusions, the conditon of the landing site can be uncertain.  Enjoy.

Yeah, like on a field of straw men. Anyways, I wasn't exactly arguing a thing. Makes me wonder, why was that such a hot button issue.

[GreedIgnored]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Carfax wrote...

1) Men and women are not equal to each other.  This doesn't mean one is superior to the other however.  They are merely different (in a complementary sort of way).

2) Homosexuality should not be treated as being on equivalent footing with heterosexuality.  The latter is the engine by which the human species flourishes, and the former is merely a defect carried from the womb.

3) All religions are man made nonsense.  The true God is completely transcendent and has no special regard for human beings.

4) All cultures are not equal to each other.  Some are creative and productive with noble tenets, and others are vile and only serve to corrupt the human Spirit

5) The theory of Evolution is mostly nonsense.  Evolution (as in adaptation) is a fact yes, but the theory of evolution encompasses much more....most of which has absolutely no scientific evidence when you examine it closely, yet is still putatively regarded as factual by many.

I have many more believe me

Doesn't anyone listen to the warning on the first page?

Nope, he just came here to preach... :/

[Volus Warlord]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Carfax wrote...

1) Men and women are not equal to each other.  This doesn't mean one is superior to the other however.  They are merely different (in a complementary sort of way).

2) Homosexuality should not be treated as being on equivalent footing with heterosexuality.  The latter is the engine by which the human species flourishes, and the former is merely a defect carried from the womb.

3) All religions are man made nonsense.  The true God is completely transcendent and has no special regard for human beings.

4) All cultures are not equal to each other.  Some are creative and productive with noble tenets, and others are vile and only serve to corrupt the human Spirit

5) The theory of Evolution is mostly nonsense.  Evolution (as in adaptation) is a fact yes, but the theory of evolution encompasses much more....most of which has absolutely no scientific evidence when you examine it closely, yet is still putatively regarded as factual by many.

I have many more believe me

Doesn't anyone listen to the warning on the first page?

Warnings or not, you kinda kicked a hornet's nest with this one.